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Newfoundland cuts deal with nurses

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Tentative agreement comes only hours before picket lines were to go up, and union leader to recommend accepting deal ...Read the full article

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  1. George Nikitin from Hamilton, Canada writes: Disposable heroes with no right to strike. Paid slavery.
  2. D J from Canada writes: Percentage increases can be deceiving. my wife, an RN makes around 19.00/hr! Compare that to other jobs.
  3. P Martin from St. John's, Canada writes: $19 an hour...nice! I wish I was getting that. Once you add in the benefits and pensions, I would imagine that this works out to be a pretty sweet deal.
  4. David Gehring from Kingston, Ontario, Canada writes: This is a public sector union we're taking about, whatever they're getting it's obviously too much, and the pay increase they're getting is more proof of that.
  5. Bruce Reid from Grimsby, Canada writes: This is why people don't like unions: "Under the deal an injured nurse could lose his or her job two years after being deemed permanently disabled, and bonuses may be offered to help recruitment in hard-to-fill areas. The union had opposed both of these."

    Why is the union opposed to recruitment bonuses? And how long do they think a permanently disabled person should be allowed to keep their job?
  6. Nat Pop from Canada writes: D J from Canada writes: Percentage increases can be deceiving. my wife, an RN makes around 19.00/hr! Compare that to other jobs.
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    http://www.registered-nurse-canada.com/nurse_salary.html

    The lowest are Quebec ($20.58 - $30.65) and Newfoundland and Labrador ($23.47 - $30.02), every other place makes >$25 at a minimum.
  7. Steve Gibbons from Calgary, Canada writes: David Gehring, I hope you never have to experience the hard work these people do but if by chance you do, you might end up changing your mind. Nurses in this country are on average underpaid like most professionals in our public sector.
  8. Kathy H from Canada writes: I agree with Steve Gibbons. I have spent the past month visiting a seriously ill family member in a NL hospital. In spite of all the hoopla that was going on about the pending strike, every nurse has been professional, competent and compassionate. We pay people, whose jobs are less skilled and meaningful, far more than we pay nurses.
  9. mail reader from rural, Canada writes: just like danny billions to avoid a little political responsibility by caving in to another pay demand by the (un)civil service. nothing happening yet for all those private sector folks out of work, out of pension, and on the dole. who will be paying the bills? you can't get any growth by taxing civil servants, that's just a money merry-go-round.
  10. Ursula Dowler from Cartyville,NL., Canada writes: A strike has been avoided in this province (NFLD) by our nurses .That
    is the band-aid that stems the blood flow but what is being done about the "gaping wound" in our health care system ?
  11. Robert Miles from Orillia, ON, L3V 4T9, Canada writes: Nurses have been underpaid for years Maybe they have nearly caught up. Lets face it the auto workers were crying about reducing the package for $19 AN HOUR. But they don't want to keep their jobs. Retired RN.
  12. Cross the Border and up the Hill from Canada writes: Please! I made light of it not so long ago, asking when shall we expect the next nurses' strike as they seem to have it scheduled for every few years. Overworked? Underpaid? Apparently you don't know the NL nurses I know. I know a few that work 2 "separate" jobs while collecting the equivalent of 2 paychecks. Underpaid is it? I know people who work far harder, without benefits, with far less pay than nurses, who squabble far less, and who, ironically, help keep people out of the hospitals. Who? They're called homecare. They work their tails off and, although paid by the government, aren't given any of the luxuries that nurses get (NOT EVEN BENEFITS). Hell, even a few years back the government brought it to court to try and prove they weren't really government employees (although guess who signed the checks). I hold no pity for any nurse while only a few homecare workers make over $10/hr, without benefits and work far harder. Preventative care workers lessening loads on the people who are reaping all the rewards while they suffer themselves? Sickening.
  13. F. T. from Somewhere in the Sonora, Canada writes: While I understand that 21.5% sounds like a lot to give in a time of "economic crisis," the bottom line is that these nurses were underpaid to begin with. There's no wrong time to start undoing that. If you don't think they're underpaid, spend a week in a hospital and see how you feel about it.

    ...also, tired of the private sector workers ragging on the public sector for not having to worry about their jobs. Don't like it? Change your career. We all had the same choices out of school. No need to be petty by ragging on someone else for their smart choice.

    If I had a child finishing high school today, I would send him/her to research Canada's list of "essential services" and then seek a career based on that. It's just smart planning.
  14. lynz b from Canada writes: ok....what about all the other important people who work in NL...paramedics for instance. The first people on the scene of an accident. The first people to show at a home when something has gone wrong.
    Also, childcare workers. they teach children how to write, tie their shoes, manners, sharing...they even potty train!!! i think these people should be the next in line for a pay increase. NL is the lowest paying in both of the mentioned fields. come on, the nurses make a wonderful salary, i have 4 nursing friends and they are the ones who have fancy clothes, cars and go on vacations all the time!!!! BOO HOO HOO, only $23.00 an hour, Find something better to strike about please!!!!
  15. C Gardner from Canada writes: FT from Somewhere, you noted "...also, tired of the private sector workers ragging on the public sector for not having to worry about their jobs. Don't like it? Change your career."

    I think the problem lies in the fact that in good times, people in the public sector seem to able to negotiate contracts on the basis that "people in the private sector are seeing their wages go up, mine should too". There are many of us who saw our renumeration advance during boom times that are also subject to job loss at a moment's notice. If people want their renumeration to advance with economic upswing, they should be prepared to see their wages reduced or face a job loss in economic downturn. You can't have it both ways. Don't like it? Change your career.
  16. Sean Malone from Canada writes:
    http://www.registered-nurse-canada.com/nursesalary.html

    The lowest are Quebec ($20.58 - $30.65) and Newfoundland and Labrador ($23.47 - $30.02), every other place makes >$25 at a minimum.
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    I wonder if the figure in that the cost of living in NFLD is peanuts compared to provinces like BC & ON. Should they really be making the same?
  17. Ivan Wilson from Canada writes: Is "cuts deal" a noun followed by a verb or a verb followed by a noun in this headline?

    This is sloppy reporting.
  18. ginny smith from Canada writes: Actually, Sean Malone, the cost of housing is cheap in many parts of the province (compared with other more urban areas) but the cost of food and good is not cheap - 2L of milk is twice the price in NL as in BC, for example, and fruits and vegetables don't come cheap during winter months when everything has to come onto the island from somewhere (or into Labrador and their dirt roads) from somewhere....

    In this situation - Danny blinked. As he should have. The nurses asked for binding arbitration. That the government was unwilling to go there suggests that it was not interested in bargaining in good faith. Danny's a bully; that's the only way he knows how to behave. In some cases this is good for the province; in others it's not.
  19. SouthAlberta 403 from Canada writes: Sean Malone from Canada writes:
    I wonder if the figure in that the cost of living in NFLD is peanuts compared to provinces like BC & ON. Should they really be making the same?

    Unions always want wage parity, no matter the locale, job skills vs demand for such (eg. electronic tech = administrative assistant), or conditions (manager of goup smalltown anywhere = manager of group downtown Ottawa).

    The OH SO expensive food in Newfoundland is nothing compared to the high costs of living (food and fuel) in Canada's north.

    Why do Canadians think they can eat fresh bananas all year?
  20. J Law from Canada writes: NL Nurses $19.00 an hour for dayshift/nightshift/ weekends and holidays. Cleary about $1,000,000 for playing hockey. Go figure.
  21. mone ofurbus from Canada writes: Nurses are a great bunch, I have high regards for what they do, its too bad that the profession allowed the union to infiltrate ,damage,and tarnish their good standing. The health care system is groaning and buckling under the astronomical costs of wages and benifits deamanded by health care personal, expect to see futher cuts in service to make up for ever increasing expenses.
  22. Jennifer Lang from Canada writes: George,

    Why should they have the right to strike? Do other 'essential service' workers? What makes nurses so special compared to the other groups?

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