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Ignatieff taps high-powered economic braintrust

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

As party begins to hone economic platform, Liberal Leader meets with Bank of Canada governor, TD chief executive at exclusive Stornoway dinner ...Read the full article

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  1. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Glad to see someone cares about this country.

    Where's Harper is he gone into hiding again? Guess there's no election on.

    So where's the Conservative plan for Canada?

    The conservatives like Bush will create a staggering debt and leave it to the Obama's, the Liberals to fix the mess

    What's Harpers plan to deal with the HUGE debt? What is Harper planning on slashing?

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  2. True Conservative in the West from Canada writes: "that includes former Bank of Canada governor David Dodge"

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    That is good news...
  3. Richard Provencher from Truro, NS, Canada writes: My wife and I are sure glad our PM is in charge of our country. We believe, in spite of the global recession, Canada will come out stronger. People in Central Canada forget that when the fish quotas hit the east, many, many thousands of fishermen were out of work as the industry collapsed, and they had to review their lives, move and look at other areas of work. Canadians are tough sorts and will survive this crisis, too.
  4. True Conservative in the West from Canada writes: "But to Stephen Harper, to the Conservative Party, Canadians who have lived outside the country are less Canadian because of it. Tell that to new Canadians, born outside this country. Are they less Canadian because of it?"

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    But that's clever politics...nice reversal.
  5. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Gee, I thought that Ignatieff already had a sweeping vision and a platform to take us to the polls and I was the only one who missed it?
  6. MBguy s from Canada writes: Shannon Hall : Hey there is good debt and bad debt, it depends on how its structured.
  7. Mike Keith from Saskatoon, Canada writes: It's good to see a 'big tent' party forming under Ignatieff vs the exclusivity of Harper's PMO. The expertise he is seeking is exactly what Canada needs to get out of debt, improve productivity, and become a knowledge based economy.
  8. True Conservative in the West from Canada writes:
    Richard Provencher from Truro, NS, Canada writes: My wife and I are sure glad our PM is in charge of our country... out of work as the industry collapsed, and they had to review their lives, move and look at other areas of work. Canadians are tough sorts and will survive this crisis, too.

    Posted 20/05/09 at 11:03 PM EDT

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    Richard,
    With all of those people out of work your region would benefit more under the EI changes the Liberals are suggesting....your PM is causing you and your friends unnecessary suffering for purely political reasons.
  9. Some Guy from Canada writes: My guess is there will be no non-confidence motion from the opposition on opposition days. Instead, the Liberals will propose their economic plan as a bill. If all of the opposition parties vote in favour and the government against, they defeated on a money vote and must resign. If Harper supports the bill, Ignatieff looks as if he is PM already. If the bill fails because one of the other parties oppose it, the Liberals bleed off some of their support.
  10. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: I want a PM that Consults and not a PM that Dictates.

    If this is any taste of what Ignatieff would be as PM ... I want it.

    I'm tired of divisive Conservative Politics.

    No more attacking.
  11. D Wiatzka from Canada writes: "Ed Clark, whose bank was instrumental in offering advice to the Ontario government on its recent budget, is also a former senior bureaucrat who played a large role in crafting the Trudeau government's National Energy Policy in the 1980s."

    Wow! Now those are credentials the Liberals can REALLY look forward to rolling out when they present this new economic platform!

    The failure of the NEP to produce the revenues it projected was a huge part of the creation of the national gov'ts structural deficit in the 1980s.

    That was arguably the WORST mistake ever made in federal budget history - it took us 15 years to recover and eliminate the structural deficit!

    With Iggy getting advice from folks like that, his plan should wind up being a doozy!
  12. Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Gee, I thought that Ignatieff already had a sweeping vision and a platform to take us to the polls and I was the only one who missed it?

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    Hey John, you will see the Liberal platform about a week before the next election Just like Steve did last election. How's that sound. Fair enough?
  13. D Wiatzka from Canada writes: True Conservative - If you think people are suffering under the current EI rules then you have the Liberals to thank. They're the ones who jury rigged it like crazy so every different region has a different criteria for qualifications and different lengths of benefits.

    shannon hall - The current gov't toured the country and invited all parties to provide input into the January budget. The gov't also had their own ideas too. Iggy, on the other hand, has no ideas of his own and (in the article) asks "what should I be doing if I were PM?"

    If he and the Liberals don't have any ideas of their own, why should we be motivated to vote for them?
  14. Darryl W from Canada writes: It all makes sense now. No one could figure why David Dodge was being such a blow hard in coming out against the Bank Of Canada. Well now we know why. He's in the pocket of the Liberals.
  15. bob london from Canada writes: I want a leader with my priorities, just like Iggy. A boomer, entitled, and willing to transfer wealth from all other generations for me, me, me. Whatever, we have to invest in mental health institutions for the boomers.
  16. D Wiatzka from Canada writes: Randy Hyland - You make is sound as though they have a platform. Funny - in the article Iggy is quoted as saying "what should I do if I were PM?"

    That's not the sort of question one asks when one has a plan already.
  17. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ... AH ... didn't Harper run without a Platform releasing it only a few days before the vote?

    Lies and hiding from public scrutiny the hallmarks of the Coservative Party.

    Harper has been in power for how long? Still don't know what his vision for Canada is.

    How is Harper going to get us our of the Bush like Debt he created???

    Harper and the Con-servatives are going to slash and burn this country if they ever get a majority.
  18. Kesuke Miyagi from Canada writes: You would think Ignatieff would cull together an International team of financial experts.
    Ignatieff could easily look to former colleagues that he worked with at Oxford, Cambridge, the University of London, the London School of Economics, Harvard, and the University of California.
    Ignatieff did spend decades and more teaching at these foreign institutions, so he must've forged some solid relationships - moreso than any fast-friendships he must now have with the group he's working with in Canada.
  19. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Of course Darryl the problems are always someone else. The Conservatives are never the problem

    Why don't you put that into an attack ad?

    It's always the Liberal conspiracy.
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  20. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: to Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada.

    If a johnnie come lately platform is a flaw (a la Harper as you seem to imply) then why do we not expect Ignatieff to do better?

    You know, express his love of country, excite us, give us something to strive for, all that good stuff. Let's see if he's made up of what the backroom boys tell us he is.
  21. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Well John the Conservative Government didn't even think there was a financial crisis on until the fall of last year.

    Johnny come lately ... the Conservatives still don't think there's a problem with our economy.

    Who has their head in the sand?
  22. janfromthe bruce from Canada writes: Iggy's EI ideas - that's a revisionist history here - no Iggy it is the NDP EI plan, the one that you didn't bother to put forth in January when you and the libs decided to prop up Harper's budget and asked for squat in return.
    This is not about Canadians but about the liberal party - why waste millions of taxpayers money now?
    As for those economists - aren't those the same ones who thought neoliberal policies were great - deregulation, taxcuts, privatization? We are living their policies and economic prescriptions and now they say they know how to fix the mess they helped create. Sure let the fox into the hen house!
  23. C R from Canada writes: I wonder how many multitudes of public assets our Harper Government will plan to sell off so they can have enough to at least handle the interest on the hugenormous deficits they are piling? Spending money they don't have so they can create the illusion they are lifting us up with dollars rather than sinking us as a nation into a pit of borrowing. Deficits that our children will have to work really hard to pay down. Work hard as in 'care-giver hard' so that Harper can hold onto power just a little bit longer.
  24. C R from Canada writes: I wonder how much value Harper gets out of squeezing hope out of people? Did he create a lot of savings for our country in sacrificing our future competitiveness with cuts to science and technology? How does such petty, vindictive cuts equate to the hugenormous deficits he is downloading onto us as he goes about his new round of multi billion dollar spending sprees in order to try to shore up support for his hold on power? Gee, it should would be nice to have a person as PM who actually thinks with accountability regarding our taxpayers dollars. Too bad we instead have a Godzilla of deficit creation at our helm.
  25. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Get ready for Harper's SLASH and BURN Canada.

    His Bush sized debt is a great excuse to push through Neo-Conservative anti-middle class/poor cuts.

    Harper already doesn't consult the people, just lectures to us.

    You think he'd be kinder, friendlier with a majority.

    Mark my words - the conservatives will use their made in Canada financial crisis to sell off what remains of Canada.

    Why else would the conservatives be so obsessed with absolute power?
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  26. C R from Canada writes: The Harper supporters are upset because this doesn't fit in with their culture of 'yes men' we have surrounding our Prime Minister. Not to worry. I'm sure this government will address what they lack in leadership skills with an attack ad against the character of their political opponents.
  27. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: LOL C R. Your so right.

    The Conservative party is the party of Yes Men (stress the Men)

    Remember all their talk of "Free Votes", well they dropped that when they realized that their MP's didn't know how to vote without being being told by someone how to vote.

    The best read in the world is Conservative talking points for call in radio shows ... cause they know their voters don't now how to articulate an argument on their own.
  28. Spending our money from Canada writes: Dear Iggy,

    Why didn't you come back.

    I waited for 34 years and not once in all that time did you say you

    loved me.

    If you really cared about me and loved me why didn't you say it.

    And now you're back and say you do.

    Thirty-Four years Iggy, a lot has happened,you weren't there for me

    when I needed you during those turbulent years.

    You missed a lot,we have changed a lot in those 34 years.

    Why did you not come back during our troubled times?

    And now you come back and tell me you love me,but I know the real

    reason.

    Iggy, you care for yourself even more than me.

    Iggy,I don't need love like that, I need someone who cares 100%

    about me.

    You just aren't the one.

    But you'll always be a part of me,

    Love,

    -Canada
  29. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: "Never argue with an idiot, he (or she) will drag you down to his (or her) level and then defeat you with experience".

    Speak to the void my lovelies.
  30. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: In light of this news I wonder if Harper and crew will be asking Ignatieff for advice anytime soon. That question period schtick is over! Harper nor his minions will dare ask a question in response to a question, because they will be afraid of the answer.

    It will be up to Harper to come up with a plan. It always was his responsibility. He shirked it. After this current MP holiday there are only 6 weeks left of government by the people: what will Harper do?

    Spend all summer wishing Mulroney the worst, running from the truth of his hopelessly stupid economic policies, and trying to find a way out in a world that simply won't be raptured on his timetable so he can keep his job.

    Good luck with that, Harper. Let Prentice take the reins. Please. Let a saner head prevail. Do it for Canada. Just do it! There is no shame in allowing those who know more and can do better use their knowledge and do more.
  31. Sask Resident from Regina, Canada writes: Some Guy from Canada writes: "If all of the opposition parties vote in favour and the government against, they defeated on a money vote and must resign."

    You must of missed your civics classes. Only the government can introduce spending bills and the opposition must vote against them as a vote of confidence. Of course, like Pearson did, the government could call for a vote on confidence later.

    I'm canceling my account at the TD tomorrow. I didn't know the NEB idiot worked for them. If the Canadian oil companies had any brains, they would also change banks.

    I'm disgusted with the TD. No wonder why they kept it quiet.
  32. Apu Nahasapeemapetilon from Canada writes: None of the economists mentioned holds a candle to Harpo's knowledge of the economy! After all, Steve has a Master's from the U of A in Voodoo Economics!
  33. Dan Laurin from Windsor, Canada writes: I believe Mr Ignatieff has chosen a perfect vehicle to cause an election. With almost 1.5 million Canadians out of work EI reform is an important issue and the Bloc and NDP cannot back down and support Harper over this. With the Liberal Party out of debt and the polls showing surging Liberal support will this mean that after the June Economic report card the government will fall and we will have a summer election?I think this would be best for the country as we can campaign and vote during what would normally be the summer recess anyway. In September the new Liberal government (hopefully a majority) can get to the business of running the country as it should be run.Now people will look at these ads and say Why Are you attacking the opposition rather than dealing with issues. Not a Leader in my opinion.

    Its nice to see Mr Ignatieff going to speak with other Economists as well as the ones he allready has in office. The Liberals are doing the smart thing setting up a workable plan to get us out of the Conservatives Deficit. The Canadian people need knowledgable people and ideas in Givernment not Reform/Conservatives who have barely passesd highschool.
  34. David Lorne from White Rock, Canada writes: David Dodge is now out of the Liberal closet, as if we didn't guess that a long while back. I wonder if he will now take responsibility for his poor decisions during his stint at the BoC.
  35. Shades of Grey from Whitehorse, Canada writes: Some Guy from Canada writes: "My guess is there will be no non-confidence motion from the opposition on opposition days. Instead, the Liberals will propose their economic plan as a bill. If all of the opposition parties vote in favour and the government against, they defeated on a money vote and must resign."

    Some Guy, I can't see either the Bloc or the NDP bringing down the government, since they both stand to lose seats. I think we'll see a reversal, where the Liberals vote against the Conservatives, and one or both of the other parties support them.
  36. Sask Resident from Regina, Canada writes: Mrs. Whiggins from Canada wrote: "It will be up to Harper to come up with a plan. It always was his responsibility."

    He has and it is public. His plan is called the speech from the throne (general plan for the 6 month to 5 year period) and the budget (the year from April 1 to March 31). You can look at his plans on the Parliament's web site and see the comments made about the Conservative's plan by the opposition in Hansard.

    So what else do you want to know. The "hidden agenda" that the Liberals are always implying?

    I would like to know Iggy's plan, especially his hidden agenda to put in a carbon tax, cap and trade, and NEB or Green Shaft 2. Except he will have to steal from N&L this time as well, maybe take back the off shore?

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