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Election in July? That may be the only option

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Tories have yet to schedule the three remaining opposition days that could be used to defeat the Harper government ...Read the full article

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  1. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    And the conservatives can release their platform in August.

    We should call an election for these simple reasons:

    A) that it might make the conservatives actually tell Canadian's what the hell their plans are for this once great country

    B) It would force Harper to appear on Canadian Television (and not via Fox News) - though he'd prob. still be evasive and rude.

    C) It would force Harper to tell Canadian's what is his vision for Canada (I wouldn't hold my breath on that one)

    D) It would force the Conservatives to explain how they're Bush like economy strategy will get us out of our 60 Billion dollar NEW debt.

    E) It would force the Conservatives to explain what services they plan to slash

    F) We will have a Liberal Majority Government.
  2. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: No election. Harper is too cunning for the Liberals. They lost their bully fox when Chretien was forced out, the only thug capable of squaring off against Harper.

    You out there who enjoyed Chretien's "leadership" have inherited the wind. Fill your sails.
  3. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Cunning How? By going into hiding?

    Having thugs run your party? What happened to Harper - he only seems to show his face when there's an election on.

    I'm glad to know we need thugs to deal with the conservatives - but I think they drafted them all.
  4. Warron yu from Canada writes:

    Did Iggy get Bilderberg backing last weekend in Greece or something?

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  5. Dave Jansen - The Progressive Centrist from Canada writes: .

    It's unfortunate that the conservatives have left us with no other option than to have an election.

    If only the conservatives were capable of providing good government to Canadians.

    It's a shame - thanks a lot Harper.

    Election 2009 - Iggy vs. Piggy
  6. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Wonder how Harper will shut down Parliment this time?

    Watch him call an 8 month summer break.

    Since he can't play fair, I'm sure they'll cheat - yet again. But rules don't apply to conservatives

    ... as they do all the thinking for Canadians.

    Oh that 60 Billion dollar debt ... we'll slash our way out of it.
    .
  7. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: "Cunning"? Is that what delaying opposition days is called?

    The only way to put an end to the 24/7 electioneering is to have an election.

    Harper is incapable of governing a functioning minority, since his sociopathic personality craves dysfunction and divisions. He thinks he's entitled to a majority and has been having a 3 year hissy fit because he's been denied twice (not including the election he lost to Martin). Third strike and he's out.

    Have an election and get it over with.
  8. X Marks The Spot from Canada writes: Bring it on, lets have a real election. This time the conservatives will have competition. Cagematch 2009. Jack Laton and Elizabeth May forgotten by the media, Gilles to be watched.....
  9. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Thugs?

    Haven't seen Harper put his hands around anyone's throat yet?

    Pepper on your plate?

    Most important item on the country's agenda - no peerage for Black?

    Missed mid-East funeral on holiday?

    CRAP comment?

    Americans got what they deserved in 9/11?

    Get the point ...............?
  10. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: to another poster who astutely observes: "Harper is incapable of governing a functioning minority, since his sociopathic personality craves dysfunction and divisions".

    Gee, if I tell you the colour of my socks, my Mother's maiden name and what I had for breakfast can you psychoanalyze me too?

    After all, you present yourself as a consummate professional.

    By the way pro - check your speling.

    And no election - Harper's too smart for that. Suck it up buttercup.
  11. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: LOL John ... yes it's the Liberals fault

    67% of Canadian's REJECTED the Conservatives in the last election.

    The Conservatives have lost 2 straight elections.

    Harper suspended Parliment when the majority was about to take control.

    Stop the spin, put down your issued Conservative Party Talking notes and face faces.

    BTW what have the Conservatives done since they came into power?

    It's time for a real Government ... call an election.

    But we know Conservatives talk a good fight, but are cowards.

    A least Chretien didn't have others fight his fight - think of this months attack ads approved by the PM - but he cowards away from being "part" of them.
  12. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Thugs?

    ...

    Americans got what they deserved in 9/11?

    Get the point ...............?

    You forgot purchase of a Hotel/ Golf course, when questioned a napkin scribble was produced for the multi-million dollar deal! HAH!
  13. Don Portz from Trochu AB, Canada writes: I hope that the Conservatives give the opposition their 3 days starting next week. It will be very interesting to see if all the 3 opposition parties want to go into an election. Yes the Liberals will jump at the chance to vote against the govt because they know that the others are in no position to go to the polls. Particularily the Bloc.
    I can understand that the Liberal supporters would like to get into govt with an overwhelming majority. However given the number of seats that they have, do you really feel that the entire country will suddendly reverse their positions, whether it be Conservatives, NDP or Bloc????
  14. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Thugs?...
    Americans got what they deserved in 9/11?Get the point ...............?

    Let's continue this is so much fun; perhaps a few millions were stolen, and that's ok if dat's da price to keep Canada togeder!

    Or this ditty...you 'ave da proof beacause you know it's da good proof cause you know it's proven!
  15. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:

    ... and Brian Mulroney is a saint. Yes lets talk about news from a decade ago. And lets talk about how people wouldn't even vote for Con's when up against Dion.

    Typical Conservative attacks - face facts and defend this Harper Government??

    Can't so you need to attack attack attack.

    Why can't you Conservatives ever run on their own merits?

    The party of sleeze.

    Where's the Conservative Platform? Where's their vision for Canada?
    All we know is where they stand on the opposition

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  16. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: LOL John ... yes it's the Liberals fault

    I think Shanon likes the sound of her own good judgement, that or the Liberal media room just hit second gear!
  17. Mariposa Belle from Leacockland, Canada writes: Speculation of an election is designed to sell news in the summer, when most Canadians ignore current events for personal events. September is better when we notice the light diminishing and we all ge that much more cranky. At that point, the political parties can sell anything.
  18. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Building an Ark?? How's that working for ya?

    I guess you need to be a bit of a nutter to support the con-servatives.

    So why should Canada keep Harper in power?
  19. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: LOL John ... yes it's the Liberals fault
    A least Chretien didn't have others fight his fight

    Shannon you must not be old enough to remember John Nunziatta - Tequila Sheila and the rest of the brat-rack!
  20. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Yes it's the media's fault, cause Canadian's can't think for themselves.

    Ah, maybe the media isn't liberal, but Canadian's are.

    67% aren't supporters of the Conservative party.

    It's sad that the few who do are such a loud annoying bunch.

    Bring on the election.

    And you guys keep copy and pasting your Conservative approved talking points.

    Have you guys called into a talk radio show lately?
  21. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: "Gee, if I tell you the colour of my socks, my Mother's maiden name and what I had for breakfast can you psychoanalyze me too?"

    No need for the extra information - you're a Harper cult member, therefore, you're a mindless sheep.

    How's my spelling?
  22. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ..It's sad that the few who do are such a loud annoying bunch.

    It's also hard not to look in your own mirror and look at what you've become, annoying and a shrill screaming voice! Wow congrats I thought you were Vern McPhereson for a moment but he had a debate style and a point sometimes...scream away Shannon - you must be a wonder to behold at the soccer Mom's reunion!
  23. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Nope, and it's doesn't matter they've left the party.

    Lets talk about the here and now ... why should the conservatives stay in power?

    What's harper doing for Canada other than trying to destroy us.

    What's the conservative agenda.

    Build me an ark.
  24. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Chretien was tougher than Harper. Harper's not tough - he only tries to act tough. When push came to shove, he crawled to the GG and whined for second chance. Real tough.

    Harper's "toughness" is on constant display with his whining about the press, and about all the "Liberal" forces which are out to get him. The way he ducks responsibility and the knee-jerk way he automatically tries to blame somebody for any problem really demonstrate his "toughness".

    And could you imagine Harper - all 6'3" of himself getting "tough" with anybody - eg Chretien? Chretien, even at his age, would drop Harper before he knew what hit him. Of course with what passes for a "conservative" these days - maybe Harper IS the toughest amongst his caucus and supporters.
  25. Wilbur Williamsley from safely away from youville, Canada writes: I'm with Shannon Hall, bring on the election, The only hat trick happening will be Harper holding out his hat begging for spare change like Mulroney did with Schrieber, after he was tossed to the curb like the dirt bag he was.
  26. jack macarthur from Canada writes: It's time to get rid of the Conservatives. However, who do you elect? The corrupt Liberals. What we need is a new political party in Canada--THE HONEST PARTY!
  27. Mike Sharp from Victoria, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Yes it's the media's fault, cause Canadian's can't think for themselves.
    Ah, maybe the media isn't liberal, but Canadian's are.

    67% aren't supporters of the Conservative party.
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    And 70% of Canadians opposed an Official Coalition government composed of the parties that 63% of Canadians voted for.

    Go figger.
  28. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Chretien was tougher than Harper....And could you imagine Harper - all 6'3" of himself getting "tough" with anybody - eg Chretien? Chretien, even at his age, would drop Harper before he knew what hit him

    No without pepper spray Creten would crater - in fact without Ailene he would still think the burgler is in da 'ouse!
  29. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ... so true ...so true.

    Conservative's are inherent cowards.

    Harper all but hides from the Canadian media cause he can't Control the message.

    And in typical Conservative whine fest they try to blame their cowardness on everyone - the media, the people, the Liberals, Quebec, immigrants, American's, Obama, Canadian's, PC party, .....
  30. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: jack macarthur from Canada writes: It's time to get rid of the Conservatives. However, who do you elect? The corrupt Liberals. What we need is a new political party in Canada--THE HONEST PARTY!

    Why not bring back the Rhino party? They were honest enough, in fact as a make work project they were going to knock down the Rockies and fill in the Great Lakes! Now that's some infrastructure project!
  31. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    Oh look it's Mike Sharp ... Conservative Party troll.

    Oh, can't wait for you to copy and paste all your Conservative Party talking points.

    Are they the same ones from last week or has your party sent you new ones?

    I guess you're back from posting on the National Post - btw your flunkies are doing a good job of getting your parties talking points here.

    Get pasting!
  32. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: What one has to realize is that although to the politicians politics is a day-to-day / election-to-election time horizon it is in reality a continuum as seen by the voters.

    I'm not a political scientist, psychologist or paid political hack so to me as a voter that means if I saw something that I didn't like in my 60 years coming from one party or another I better remember that when I'm in the voting booth. Today's realities are only a part of a larger puzzle and are not necessarily show stoppers.

    Do I love Harper? Not really. I prefer a more civil and gentler politics like the kind that Manning tried to bring to the Hill. And what happened to him doesn't bear repeating. So I support Harper because when you are in a roomful of bullies it is best to be a friend of the biggest bully in the room.

    Mulroney? Actually I'm enjoying his discomfort because taking the F-18 contract to Montreal from Winnipeg solely for political reasons was the nadir of PC politics in my opinion. But he did a lot of good things.

    So that leaves me with Liberal leaders and I have made my opinions clear about Trudeau, (Turner doesn't count), Chretien and Martin many times on these threads.

    So maybe it boils down to the lesser of evils in one's own opinion and we'll see you at the polls in late 2010.

    By then Harper will have set a record for longevity of a minority goverment, the recession will be in remission, Ignatieff and his vision (whatever it is????) will have peaked and the Conservatives (possibly with a new leader) will win a majority.
  33. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: shannon hall and all the rest
    Weston - I think - just did a great column pointing out how many Bloc and NDP MPs... and to a lesser extent Liberal MPs ... are a little over a year away from six years service and their golden pensions for life
    these are back bench, do nothing, sit and do what their leader tells them
    but calling another election mere months before they cash in on the federal lotto? gee, I have my doubts
    I know MPs are there for the people... but hundreds of thousands of dollars might and a surging Iggy might be enough to keep the Bloc (love those Canadian pensions, eh sepratists?) and NDP away from the election talk until next June
  34. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    I'm happy to pay our politicians well - I'm happy to pay my taxes.

    It's sad that so many work to demean democracy.

    Anyone can run for Government, you too could run and fight for that pension.

    Democracy is worth the cost.

    It's conservatives that want to shut down public debate and move us to a consumerist culture where only big business tells us what to do.

    You under pay politicians and you open them up to bribes - and you don't want that to happen. How many Airbus airplanes does Canada need.

    Count me as a supporter of democracy - that's why I'm not a fan of the conservatives.
  35. Frank Emm from Ontario, Canada writes: We have had nowhere to go but up since the Shawinigan Strangler got booted out of office,even Mr.Dithers was an improvement over that incompetent dictator.Harper may have some faults but he didn t parachute into his leadership like the Iggster did.If Iggy won t go to his own party and run for its nomination what makes him think that the Canadian people will elect a non opposed "Johnny Come Lately"to lead them during a worldwide recession.
  36. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Harper IS smart enough to realize that his dreams of a majority will remain dreams. He IS smart enough to realize that he's in a weaker position vs the Liberals than he was against Dion.

    THAT is the only reason he will avoid an election. Has nothing to do with "toughness" and EVERYTHING to do with his own personal political survival.

    3rd strike and he's out.
  37. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ...It's sad that so many work to demean democracy.

    What's really sad is your determination to dominate this board with your comments, you have a need to bully others to get your point heard above all without regard for a little humour and understanding ( your husband 'er life partner must have the patience of Job). Worst though all these traits you exibit are exactly what you describe in your venom against Harper. Perhaps you are similar in ways you just don't see, but is out front for all others to witness.
  38. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: to another poster who opines that "Harper all but hides from the Canadian media cause he can't Control the message."

    The media do just fine without Harper's "cooperation.

    By taking quotes out of context here, missing an item there and Canada's National network providing a Commons Committee with loaded questions they are doing a fine job of airing "incremental attack ads" on behalf of the liberal agenda.

    I would substitute the word "hides" in the original quote with the words "strategically avoids".
  39. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:

    .... harper will do everything to shut down parliament.

    Like a coward with his tail between his legs.

    Popularity never comes back, so I don't know how he's hoping to ever win. The conservatives are done, watch them hide from public view for the next year.
  40. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: er correction - Jobe
  41. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: No one has ANY comment on my post? No one thinks MPs will think about their pensions first?
    cmon people, lets think outside the box...
  42. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: Looking at Harper's history, and his unseemly lust for power at any cost (Mulroney even took a shot at his turncoat butt!), in all likelihood Harper won't be happy until Canadians storm Parliament and haul him out. Then he can cry and run home to mommy firewall complaining about how mean everyone was to him.

    Any tactic less than that is fair game. The man can be likened to a rabid badger in his hole: sooner or later you're gonna have to go in and get him. By any means.

    Harper's the same guy who tried to kick Mulroney when he was down. Payback's a biatch and Mulroney isn't near done with Harper. Not by a long shot.
  43. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    No John you're just mad that the media doesn't reflect your point of view, your distorted reality.

    Isn't it dictatorships that want the media to only reflect their views?

    Conservatives really don't like differences of opinions, views that go against their narrow vision of the world.

    Why else would bible thumpers always be conservative supporters? Cause they don't believe in free thought, open expression and golly gee people to have their own opinions.

    Just because the media doesn't report your view of the world, doesn't make them biased, it just shows that your narrow minded.
  44. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Is Pensions this weeks conservative party talking point?

    Are you going to call into a talk radio show with the same beef?

    You conservatives are a joke! All about controlling the message.

    .
  45. Tim London from Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:

    .... harper will do everything to shut down parliament.

    Like a coward with his tail between his legs.

    Popularity never comes back, so I don't know how he's hoping to ever win. The conservatives are done, watch them hide from public view for the next year.

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    looks like Vern found himself a new s/n
  46. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: No one has ANY comment on my post?

    Hang on Swan Hills D the dam is about to burst - btw loved my time up there on a miscible flood project for Shell!
  47. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: shannon hall
    with all due respect.... the CBC has been found guilty of biased coverage of Harper and conservatives on numerous occasions.
    that said, there isn't any overt bias from most national media. however, they all tend to lean a little to the left naturally
  48. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: "Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Chretien was tougher than Harper....And could you imagine Harper - all 6'3" of himself getting "tough" with anybody - eg Chretien? Chretien, even at his age, would drop Harper before he knew what hit him

    No without pepper spray Creten would crater - in fact without Ailene he would still think the burgler is in da 'ouse! "

    Pepper spray or not, Harper would soil his pants (Or should I say Harper would need to take a break to "speak with his advisor"?) before besting Chretien in a one on one. Harper could take on Dion - as long as he used attack ads as a proxy. One on one in the debates Dion more than held his own. When he goes off script, Harper's terrible. And Harper's scared of Iggy - that's why he's softening up the target using attack ads.
  49. Tim London from Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    No John you're just mad that the media doesn't reflect your point of view, your distorted reality.

    Isn't it dictatorships that want the media to only reflect their views?

    Conservatives really don't like differences of opinions, views that go against their narrow vision of the world.

    Why else would bible thumpers always be conservative supporters? Cause they don't believe in free thought, open expression and golly gee people to have their own opinions.

    ///////////////////////////////////////

    Free thought and open expression... do statist like yourself actually like doing that?
  50. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes:

    Pepper spray or not, Harper would soil his pants (Or should I say Harper would need to take a break to "speak with his advisor"?) before besting Chretien in a one on one.

    That's why I'm saying - Harper see Ailene Cretin with the soap-stone carving - then he soils himself - Ailene is his muscle!
  51. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: "No one has ANY comment on my post? No one thinks MPs will think about their pensions first?
    cmon people, lets think outside the box... "

    It's not in the nature of a politician to imagine they will lose THEIR seat. Their hesitation will be driven by their party's prospects, not pension. You're even more cynical than me....
  52. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:

    So where is Harper?

    He's all but hiding yet again from Canadian's.

    With his new passport is he traveling again?

    I guess it's all part of the Conservative do nothing for Canada platform.

    So when will Harper be on Fox News next ... I guess that's the only people he talk to.

    Other than talking to lobbyist at closed meetings, we never see Harper in public. It's like were in North Korea!
  53. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ...really don't like differences of opinions, views that go against their narrow vision of the world.
    Cause they don't believe in free thought, open expression and golly gee people to have their own opinions.... it just shows that your narrow minded.

    This also shows you are only reading what you've written, sad but controlling in a little girl feet stomping display though! (read back for more)
  54. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: No. no. Ailene could take on BOTH. But Chretien could STILL best Harper.

    Harper COULD handle Ruby Dhalla though - so long as she was softened up by Jason Kenney first.
  55. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: Chretien would and likely does laugh in Harper's face. Mulroney, however, is a different story. Harper and Mulroney: two pirates with lots of goods on each other, and other people's goods. But who cut and run first? Heavenly Harper did.

    Harper best be praying for the Rapture, like next month, because if his God doesn't step in to save his soul you can bet that old Muldoon will be the devil of his dreams and bring him on home at the soonest.
  56. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Hat's off to Shannon, now casting 30% of her wisdom - controlling? no that's Harper - Shannon is here to win !
  57. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Mulroney would best Harper too.

    Mulroney's a good man... compared to Harper.
  58. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Shannon a little gift back to you as you seem too occupied in typing - read back to 9:53 - I understannd your domination thing now!
  59. Graham Magus from Toronto, Canada writes: what makes any of you think the bloq or ndp will vote for an election?
    they will both lose seats......and the libs will gain 30-40 seats.
    why bother? parliament will be similar with a lessened CON minority......completely useless except to bring a new leader to the CPC and probably finish Iggy's aspirations of every getting a majority, cause it ain't gonna happen if Prentice is leader.
    Either this occurs, or the election delayed until after the economy improves (which for Canada will be sooner than most) and Iggy's finished save for perhaps a squeaker minority at best.
    Keep dreaming Libs.
  60. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Yes, because I have plenty of free time on my hands, I'm not building an ark.
  61. P Martin from St. John's, Canada writes: The usual Harper tactics - lie, delay and ignore. An election in July? Not a problem - anything to get rid of Harper.
  62. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Harper doesn't really like Prentice, mainly because Harper's jealous of Prentice's easy manner, obvious leadership skills, diplomacy and ability to work with others.

    Is it possible that all the fckups which Harper has made are with the intent of passing a bag of sh!t to Prentice after Harper resigns?

    Is Harper THAT vindictive?
  63. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: I agree an election won't happen because of Harpers agreement with the Bloc.

    Oh the irony ... the Separatist party will save Harper.

    Why have principles when you violate them all.
  64. Commander Groovechild from Canada writes: I'm game for another election if will help to bring in a majority. Right now Mr. Ignatieff would not get my vote - because I have no idea what he would like to do. My folks however would probably vote for him as their customary tribute to Mr. Trudeau. They couldn't vote for Dion because they could barely understand him, just to be perfectly honest. But that problem doesn't exist with Mr. Ignatieff.
  65. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes:

    Is it possible that all the fckups which Harper has made are with the intent of passing a bag of sh!t to Prentice after Harper resigns? Is Harper THAT vindictive?

    Well Creten layed that same doo-doo on Martin didn't he? Vindictive...i thought we were talking politics?
  66. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: Graham Magus, whatever it takes to get rid of the anti-Canadian Harper. Prentice should start a revolt! There's a lot of fence-sitting Canadians who would jump at the chance to vote Harper out given a reasonable choice. If it is between Prentice and Ignatieff, may the best-perceived win!

    I'm not kidding. Anything, any option, is better than continuing with Harper.
  67. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Do you really think Harper is going to step down and have someone who's capable of winning an election take his seat?

    Power corrupts. There's no way he'll let a stronger player take his seat.
    He doesn't want to step down and have a Con PM - with a majority.
  68. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Yes, because I have plenty of free time on my hands, I'm not building an ark.

    Ark is done, I'm trying to complete the games room to keep the Lemurs away from the Rackoons. Aslo the Dolphins aren't happy with the transition pool - they think the Otters a might take the prime seats!
  69. Stephen Lewis from Canada writes: What I'd like to know is: why is the scheduling of these days so arbitrary? Martin pulled the same crap that Harper is pulling now, hiding behind Parliamentary procedure in order to maintain a minority government from the potential hazard of opposition days. How is it possible that we can arrange our holidays, our school year and every other cyclical calendar with little trouble, but not our Government's activity schedule?! Let's say that there are 15 weeks of Parliament in a session from January to June. And let's say that there are 15 opposition days in that same period (too straight-cut an example, I know, but for argument's sake cut me some slack). So, we should have one opp day every week, and not bunch them up at the end like Martin did way back in 2005. For that matter, I would like to have all procedures and protocols set out for a more stable government. I don't like the idea of a politician going to the Governor General to determine if the government will stand or fall. Important things like this should be prescribed in our Constitution. Can we please have someone with a brain and a plan step up to the plate? Pleasae! I'll tell you one thing, that person is currently not to be found in either of the two contending parties in Canadian politics.
  70. gary wilson from writes: An election can't come soon enough. This is a failed government. I don't care who we replace them with.

    This government should be defeated for the simple reason it has done exactly what it campaigned to do ... nothing.
  71. Winston Churchill from London, Canada writes: Conservatives will slam the door. Expect some interesting legislation and appointments in the next month! Also, why call an election when they've already started electioneering? If the last election was anything to go by, they'll spend a week slandering the other leaders before risking anything at the polls.

    Very edifying.
  72. mike sty the Coalition Centrist from Canada writes: Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: the CBC has been found guilty of biased coverage
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    Where ?????? By whom ??????

    You on acid ???? punk !!!
  73. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ... well the real shame Stephen Lewis is that Harper and the con's have refused to try to make a minority government work.

    They could work with the opposition and work on a consultative manner, but the conservatives are just too pig headed to try do constructive government.

    Conservatives are more concerned about absolute power than working to build a better Canada.

    It's really sad.

    It's sad that conservatives have such hatred of government, and by extension the people of Canada.

    I expected more from them.
  74. John Yossarian from Ottawa, Canada writes: Nonsense! Apparently, Harper can simply prorogue Parliament before the opposition days take place.
  75. The Real PS from Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Harper suspended Parliment when the majority was about to take control.
    .
    You do know that Iggy now agrees that Harper did the right thing don't you?
    .
    That's the problem with canned /parroted messages, when you have a party leader like Iggy who changes his mind so often, the canned message can get out of date within days.
  76. Turning Right from Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: 67% of Canadian's REJECTED the Conservatives in the last election.
    _____________________________

    And 72% rejected the Liberals in the last election.
  77. Derek live..... from the center of the universe from Canada writes: lots of boo hoo libs on this message board...keep waiting on the election ...the bloc and ndp don't want to go....the temporary ignatieff wave will die down as the population get to know him ( I still like him ,but his absence grates on people)...you have missed your chnace ...the economy thanks to the conservative handling is starting to show signs of improvement without all the deficit money going out ...this will all look good for the conservatives in comparison to other g20 economies this fall/winter. If the libs don't go before summer they will have to wait untill the 83 mop's pensions are vested
  78. mike sty the Coalition Centrist from Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:

    .... harper will do everything to shut down parliament.

    Like a coward with his tail between his legs.
    ---------------------------------

    Bingo

    Stephan Harper will say, do anything, lie, cheat, run fraudulent elections, prorogue parliament, mis-speak, mis-remember, bribe elected officials, break election Canada rules, run, hide, break his own fixed date election rule ........any thing to retain power.

    Can we really trust ......Stephen Harper ?????

    Can we really trust ........Aliar ?????
  79. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: mike sty the Coalition Centrist from Canada writes: Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: the CBC has been found guilty of biased coverage

    Where ?????? By whom ??????

    read back, or have you forgotten the talking points given to the Parliamentary Comittee by the CBC reporter?
  80. I, Alafrate from Canada writes: When's the next attack ad coming out? I need to be told how to think.
  81. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes:"Well Creten layed that same doo-doo on Martin didn't he? Vindictive...i thought we were talking politics? "

    We are. Harper is like a weaker, more cowardly, more corrupt, MORE vindictive version of Chretien - minus Chretien's political smarts and ability to turn on the folksy charm, but with the addition of a huge ideologically driven belief system which drives his politics.

    Harper believes in his "destiny", lacks the fortitude to put this "destiny" to the test - but that doesn't stop him from blaming everything and anybody for denying him this "destiny". He's SO messed up - it continues to astound me that he made it as far as he did. Given his over-rated skill set - Kudos for being a massive over achiever, I guess.
  82. Randy Hyland from Canada writes: Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: No one has ANY comment on my post? No one thinks MPs will think about their pensions first?
    cmon people, lets think outside the box..

    Derek how come there is no mention of ex Reformers / CPC members on you list for collecting their golden pensions as well. You only mention the other parties. Biased a bit are we? I believe in the 93 election when the Conservatives were knocked down to just 2 seats there were 52 Reform Members.
  83. charlie brown from Canada writes: shannon hall writes: "Why else would bible thumpers always be conservative supporters?" shannon. As a life long agnostic, I find your comments to be sadly typical of too many so-called tolerant persons on the left. I know many religious folks from all denominations. None are "bible thumpers". They variously support different parties. None are as intolerant as you.
  84. Randy Hyland from Winnipeg, Canada writes: I should have added that in the 2004 Election their were 99 Consrvaives voted in. Seems to me that a lot of them will be coming up to that Golden age as well. Not very good talking points to try and bring that one up Derek.
  85. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed version: Part 1

    Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

    The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

    1. Liberals, and

    2. Conservatives.

    Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

    Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.
  86. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: minus Chretien's political smarts and ability to turn on the folksy charm, but with the addition of a huge ideologically driven belief system which drives his politics.

    Yes Johnny Creten shure otsmarted many, like taking public funds and putting it in Liberal hands to help ad agencies...that's one huge ideologically driven belief system which drives his politics.
  87. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Part 2

    Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

    Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

    Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

    Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social worke rs, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.
  88. The Real PS from Canada writes: I, Alafrate from Canada writes: When's the next attack ad coming out? I need to be told how to think.
    .
    Maybe the libbies will re-run their Guns in the Streets ad for you...
  89. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Part 3
    Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Canadian. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the military, airline pilots and generally any one who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

    Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

    Here ends today's lesson in world history:
  90. connie lai from Toronto,, Canada writes: NO Election, Harper will be the PM. I vote for Harper and he will win the next election.Iggy will never never be my choice. No day dreaming Liberals. Iggy it is time for you go back to your America.
  91. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes:
    LOL Randy ... this is exactly why the Con-servative party gives out talking points to it's members.

    He's got to get back to copy and pasting his arguments.
    .
  92. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: "Yes Johnny Creten shure otsmarted many, like taking public funds and putting it in Liberal hands to help ad agencies...that's one huge ideologically driven belief system which drives his politics. "

    Yes, but penny ante stuff compared to Harper. Harper doesn't even use brown envelopes, mainly because they're not big enough. Or do you actually believe that Harper has burned through all of the money (OUR MONEY) and put it into non-partisan, optimal - Canada first - projects? Compared to Harper, Chretien's schemes were "small town cheap".
  93. Tor Hill Sask. from Canada writes: The big picture is:

    The Obama wave will roll across Canada and Mr. Ignatieff will be riding the crest.

    That's the gist of the Ibbitson article about Obama as our de facto PM, although Mr. Ibbitson didn't come out and say it.
  94. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed version:

    Lynn I have another almost perfect Biblical reference (without the Ark)
    Take a Man fishing and you mat feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day! Liberals won't appreciate that though...
  95. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Well if the "working class" is "conservative" the conservatives have a really nasty way of showing the love.

    Libby I love how you scream HICK.

    I bet you wear plaid and drive a pick-up trunk that stinks. Harper ... using the Bush election playbook - "look stupid, act stupid, and attract stupid voters".

    Libby's Canada ... a nation of idiots.

    .
  96. George Nikitin from Hamilton, Canada writes: As much as I hate the Cons, the Libs are equally worthless. All political prospects for progressive government seem bleak.
  97. Knuckles Muldoon from Etobicoke, Canada writes: A July election might be lucky to get a 35% turnout. I'll be far more intested in the beach, golf, cold beer, and bbq''s to listen to all the rhetoric and posturing.

    No point in me voting anyway. The winning candidate in my riding will win by 10,000 votes so it doesn't matter if it's 10,001 or 9,999.
  98. Island Man from Victoria from Canada writes: Prime Minister Stephen Hider

    Hide behind the GG's skirt at Christmas and now he pulls this stunt to deny the opposition their day...what's he afraid of? Isn't Hider the one with the attack adds? Big Bull'y digging a big hole to hide in. His days are numbered.
  99. Canadian born liberal-conservative Muslim from Ottawa, Canada writes: I love the Conservative bashing on this forum. 67% didn't vote for the Conservatives... blah blah. Well guess what. A much larger number didn't vote for the Liberals, a much larger number didnt vote for the NDP and a much larger number didn't vote for the Greens or Bloc.

    The Conservative Party has more seats than the Liberal Party and the NDP combined. For the the NDP and the Liberal party to have as much seats as the Conservative Party, they would need another 29 seats on top of their already seat count.

    Keep bashing the Conservatives people and brainwashing how us how Canadians dont want them. If anything, more people do not want the Liberals in power and the NDP THAN the conservative party.

    So cry all you want lefties and stop with lies.
  100. Henry Bollingbroke from Toronto, Canada writes: The NDP drive me crazy. A few months ago -- back in the hazy Dion days -- Jack was pushing for an election like there was tomorrow.

    For months and months they chastised the Liberals every day in the House for propping up the Tories.

    Who's doing the propping up now?
  101. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier - you're leaving out a big part of the "history". The part about "conservative" women. They generally have bigger balls than the conservative men and are butt ugly inside AND out (hairy butt ugly). Those that aren't are dumber than posts which is why they hang out with conservative men. "Stepford Wives" was really a Conservative documentary. It's why most "Conservative" men fantasize about liberal women. But ultimately they fail in their conquests because their two inch penises are ridiculed. They compensate in other ways though...
  102. A B from Calgary, Canada writes: no more libs in power. Enough is enough.
  103. Derek Holtom from Swan River, Canada writes: Not the Alliance
    LOL thanks for the laugh. Glad to see we can at least have a sense of humour
    but seriously... that's a pretty good pension. I do think backbench MPs would think about that before they consent to an election
  104. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership

    This version of the world history can really bring out the butt ugly in Libbies and that is exactly why some unknown author penned it I would say. Too funny!
  105. J S from Canada writes: Just give the opposition their days. Harper will just prorogue Parliament again if it looks like he's going to lose another confidence motion.
  106. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion

    You got to admit the part about designated hitter rule is damn funny.
  107. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Part 2. When conservative men aren't griping jealously about the success of their "Liberal" colleagues, they're blaming others for their lot in life and generally passing the buck. They will often accuse their better looking and more successful "Liberal" colleagues of living in their mom's basements. At the same time, they are fantasizing about "liberal" moms. They hate their neighbors for not loving Harper. They are easily identified by their distinct wail: "I'm not successful and I blame 13 years of liberal hell".
  108. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: "Not the Alliance from In my opinion

    You got to admit the part about designated hitter rule is damn funny. "

    Not as funny as the thought that HARPER is the "alpha male" of the Canadian conservative species. Now THAT is funny!
  109. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: ...I bet you wear plaid and drive a pick-up trunk that stinks. Harper ... using the Bush election playbook - "look stupid, act stupid, and attract stupid voters".

    Libby's Canada ... a nation of idiots.

    Bjeeze Shannon, you seem to love your own attack ads - are you under some sort of control or just certainly a b-atch? You have no humour, you have no soul...you certainly are a freakaziod control fiend. I suppose that's why you harp continuously - on Harper you secretly want him?
  110. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Looks like the it's Prime time in Alberta

    ... here comes the Hillbillies ... eating straight from the can?

    Yeeee Haaaa ... sap some more oil out of the sand?

    ,
  111. Tor Hill Sask. from Canada writes: NTA pens his own material, fast, and it is very funny and pertinent, as in: 'I'm not successful and I blame 13 years of liberal hell.'
  112. martin aller-stead from toronto, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada has the right idea ... flush out what pathetic ideas (based on the evidence) these Harperites have, and vote on 'em. So far we only have three things to go on ... Harper's a liar (doesn't follow his own laws!), Harper's a manipulator (see the mess he created by threatening to bash up the opposition parties last November), and Harper has no vision for the future (see the policies flowing out of him, which mirror the US government.

    Either we have Prime Minister Obama (which is refreshing because under Harper we used to have Prime Minister Bush), or we have real leadership, so far not available from these Harper syncophants and cringers.

    Let's have an election!
  113. charlie brown from Canada writes: Not the Alliance. I think that you meant penis' or are conservative ones just different than left wing ones? All in all, a silly rebuttal to Lynn's more clever (and also silly but more entertaining) posts.
  114. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: "Not the Alliance from In my opinion

    You got to admit the part about designated hitter rule is damn funny. "

    Not as funny as the thought that HARPER is the "alpha male" of the Canadian conservative species. Now THAT is funny!

    Nah not as funny as the history of the world and what it does to libbies. Makes them crazy, venomous and themselves. haha drives em nuts.
  115. Mike Keith from Saskatoon, Canada writes: Two great lines out there already today:
    1) Iggy vs Piggy, couldn't be more true.

    2) Harper is cunning-WTF are you smoking. Harper almost went down with the great minds of Joe Clark after his embarrassing performance stretching back to election campaign 2008.

    Nothing would make Canadians happier than starting summer with a new government, but we will have to wrestle it from Harper's little greedy hands.
  116. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Looks like the it's Prime time in Alberta ... here comes the Hillbillies ... eating straight from the can?

    Shannon one last thought, I've met many Candians and most are good hearted. You my dear take the cake on hate, you love to point out others faults (yes most have many) but you are vindictive, you have no compassion, worse yet you divide well I guess your Parent's must be proud somehow ...come on it's you Vern really stop fooling us all - noone could be this sour unless the were always the Bridesmade never the bride!
  117. Richard Provencher from Truro, NS, Canada writes: I keep hearing Iggy rattling his sabre, over what? He wants the rules of the EI plan to be changed. For everyone to qualify after 360 hrs. of work, then it will cost $1.3 billion (reported in media), rates will increase for workers and companies. Can you imagine how many people will stay on it for the maximum period, and unfortunately many will work under the table, while workers go to work. The existing plan was worked out by the Liberals, as reported in the press. Iggy says these are different time. True. Now if this EI change was so important to the Liberals, how come they voted for the budget as is WITHOUT any recommended changes. The Liberals continue to operate by public opinion, then create instant pancake policies. Give me a break and support a PM that is trying his best. The Liberals had 13 years to do so many things while they had billions and billions sitting in the bank. All they did was talk and talk. The Conservatives have been in power a short while. Be patient, it's their turn to run the government.
  118. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: charlie brown from Canada writes: "Not the Alliance. I think that you meant penis' or are conservative ones just different than left wing ones? All in all, a silly rebuttal to Lynn's more clever (and also silly but more entertaining) posts. "

    Actually, now that I think about it, I should have written penis (singular). Harper's emasculated his caucus, meaning that even at 2 inches - he is the "big man".

    As I said - Harper as the "Alpha-male". Too funny!
  119. MBguy s from Canada writes: Part 1 --------------Arrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh maties,,,,,,,,,,,, the wind is starting to blow again on the great seas! Avast mates, the Libs are blowing wind.....again. I wonder if they can blow the candles out on the cake this time!!! Prepare for battle! Prepare to outflank them mates! And then they shall walk the plank with the rest of the scoundrels as they titter along a rickety path of solitude. Arrrrggghhhh feed them to the sharks and gold fish and guppies.
  120. Suburban Sisyphus from Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier is really a man pretending to be a woman. Typical conservative tactic -- Deborah Grey built a political career out of it.
  121. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes:"Shannon one last thought, I've met many Candians and most are good hearted. You my dear take the cake on hate"

    Oh C'mon. Cut the bullshit. Hyperbole much?
  122. Harry Smothers from Valga, Estonia writes: It's now or never for Iggy. And it's not likely to be now. Bye, bye Iggy. Bye, bye Liberal Party. Hello a new Liberal leader, hello a new NDP leader, hello a unification of the Left. In a decade's time there 'may' be a competitive election.
  123. Turning Right from Canada writes: Mike Keith: How do you know most Canadians would like to start the summer with a new government? Did they give you the nod top speak for them? I would wager a guess that most Canadians do not want an election and therefore would not want a new government. It seem a Liberal trait to assume they speak for all Canadians, it seems to me as at the last election they spoke for only about 29% of Canadians.
  124. John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Reading this thread reaffirms my learnings that if certain thoughtless and shallow posts are skipped I can learn a lot from the rest.

    Those of you who post vacuous and repetitive posts know who you are.

    There are people out there who take the time to think about what they write - and they are from both sides of the political spectrum.

    G'night.
  125. Kevin Desmoulin from TO, Canada writes: What No government statement today on the that broken down reactor. more cut and running from Harper and crew? Of course.
  126. A. S. from Canada writes: I particularly like how the thoughtful conservatives pretend to have doubts before going conservative.

    People who participate in these online discussions always have their opinion fixed.

    Let's not pretend.
  127. MW 123 from Canada writes: Harry Smothers from Valga, Bye bye American lover Harper, who does not love his country and wishes it was the US

    If you want to hear something from someone who loves America more than Canada and has distain for Canada, read this:

    The media joked about Harper's inability — or refusal — to utter the words "I love Canada." While such a refusal may not mean much for most politicians, it does for Stephen Harper. While he was head of the extremist organization the National Citizens Coalition, he wrote a letter to the National Post lauding Alberta — and its adherence to "American enterprise and individualism" — as a better model than Canada's:

    "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status..."

    "Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it."

    "[Y]our country [the USA], and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world."

    Now that is one proud Canadian! What a damned hypocrite and American lover.
  128. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: Harper is a very polarizing PM. You either love him or despise him. There's very little "middle ground". THIS is Harper's problem. Once you lose the "love" it's hard to get back. It's why he is destined to never have a majority. There's a reason many voters do not trust him - it's almost instinctual. That is because Harper's disgusting tactics THROUGHOUT his career have been his own "attack ads" against himself. He's allegedly a smart man, but he's never been intelligent enough to realize that he is his own worst enemy.
  129. D Wiatzka from Canada writes: Yup - rejig EI benefits so payroll taxes have to go up and even more jobs get lost and more small businesses go under.

    Great plan Iggy!

    Typical Liberal move - screw some of the folks who still have jobs so the Liberals can buy the votes and seats of certain regions.

    Always thinking about how to get back into power!
  130. MBguy s from Canada writes: Right and now for something completely different, I think the general population of Canada does not want an election for July! We have all had a crazy long cold winter!!! Here flood of 2009. Summer just starts in June July and August...everyone will be scrambling to stay outside during our shorts summers and making the days count. I for one don't want an election in this country at this time. I have better things with my life during this short summer this year. Save it for fall when the kids are already back in school. Cheers
  131. D Wiatzka from Canada writes: MW 123 - Harper was bang on with his criticism re: northern welfare state. Even the Liberals recognized that in the 1990s and spent much of the time during that decade continuing the dismantling of the failed Trudeau welfare state economics.

    You might have noticed how well Canada did during that time.

    When Trudeau came at the end of the 1960s Canada was truly one of the leading nations of the world economically. By the time he left we were a shadow of our former selves.

    Trudeau's charter of rights was brilliant, but his economic policies were disaster.
  132. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: Suburban Sisyphus from Canada writes: Lynn Pelletier is really a man pretending to be a woman. Typical conservative tactic -- Deborah Grey built a political career out of it.

    ... like Mr. Singh .. the name the conservatives were using the other day.

    He got called out for being a paid conservative hack ... guess this is who "Singh" became.
  133. Jimmy K from Toronto, Canada writes: Stupid.

    The Bloc won't play. The NDP won't play.

    Therefore, no election.

    Carry on.
  134. siren call from Alberta. Land of Living -and dead- Dinosaurs, Canada writes: Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes:
    Take a Man fishing and you mat feed him for a day.
    .............................................

    I have no idea what this means.

    I assume it has something to do with all those manly Conservatives Lynn Pelletier writes of.

    Something that happens when a bunch of beer swilling males head into the woods as a group to hunt, er, "deer".
  135. shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: MW 123 from Canada

    ... wow .. thanks for copy and pasting the conservative party talking points

    Did you get them in your email today?

    I'm glad you have all your talking points just sitting on your desktop to so happen end up on a discussion from like this.

    So MW 123 .. how much does the conserverative party pay for you to Troll news sites???
  136. siren call from Alberta. Land of Living -and dead- Dinosaurs, Canada writes: What is all this legislation the Harperites supposedly need to pass?

    Guess we're suffering a sever shortage of legislation on the books.

    I thought the problems were the economy, the rampaging RCMP and environmental issues. For Harper's knob gobblers -- er, manly deer hunting men, it's always politics and to heck with governing.

    And they are NOT the only party to do it, of course, but at least the Libs have always been able to govern as well as politic.
  137. MBguy s from Canada writes: Okay time to change the channel, as the young and restless and stomach turns is putting me to sleep here..... everyone have a grrreat evening.
  138. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: Kevin Desmoulin from TO, Canada writes: What No government statement today on the that broken down reactor. more cut and running from Harper and crew? Of course.

    There was a governemnt statement but of course not in the G&M besides that joint is over 50 years old. It was not built on Harper's shift but like everything else in Canada it was left to fall apart while the Libs accrued their huge surplus's.
  139. Lynn Pelletier from Canada writes: July election. I doubt that. Iggy will be on a book tour or writing as when Parliament was porouged or when and Ruby was in the limelight.Iggy will be a no show to busy to show up for his part time job.
  140. J Birch from Hamilton, Canada writes:

    Michael Ignatieff's response to Conservative personal attack ads.

    Right on Michael, Great message !

    Liberal Party Leader launched his response to the recent Conservative attack ads against him at:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGifqWMeZIA

    More than ever I'll:

    Vote for Iggy, not the Piggy


    .
  141. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: shannon hall from Canada, Canada writes: MW 123 from Canada ... wow .. thanks for copy and pasting the conservative party talking points

    You need to move on, you are not "Shannon" and once again the Globe has been notified so nice try...a woman this time nice shape change! Still living in a basement suite?
  142. martha stewart from Canada writes: No way.
  143. Mrs. Whiggins from Canada writes: Right Lynn P, Conservatives eschew Europeans... which is why uber-Conservative Mulroney is on the stand trying to defend the "work" he did for the money he received. Ayup.

    That's Conservatives for ya. All good if it's all for themselves.

    BTW, how's Harper Con Corp doing distancing itself from a brother?

    Mulroney is going to kick Harper's can to the kerb, just ahead of real Canadians.

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