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Mum's the word in Coyotes' neighbourhood

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

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  1. jp6635 trojan from toronto, Canada writes: BLACKBERRIES 1 BRAINLESS BETTMENS 0 OT

    GOAL:::JIM BALSILLIE
    ASSIST:::CANADIAN HOCKEY FANS, HAMILTON

    PENALTY::::5 MINUTES BILL DAILY
    PENALTY::::10 MINUTES GARY BETTMAN
    PENALTY::::GAME MISCONUCT, MLSE
    PENALTY::::GAME MISCONDUCT, WAYNE GRETZKY FOR STAYING QUITE.

    ATTENDANCE:::: 18,000 AT COPPS
    BLACKBERRIES FARM TEAM, PHOENIX ROADRUNNERS

    SCHEDULE

    BLACKBERRIES VS JETS
    NORDIQUES VS BLACKBERRIES

    FARM TEAMS SCHEDULE
    WATERLOO JR BLACKBERRIES VS TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS (FARM TEAM OF MONTREAL CANADIENS)

    MOST HATED GM IN NHL, BRIAN BURKE
  2. jp6635 trojan from toronto, Canada writes: BLACKBERRIES 1 BRAINLESS BETTMENS 0 OT

    GOAL:::JIM BALSILLIE
    ASSIST:::CANADIAN HOCKEY FANS, HAMILTON

    PENALTY::::5 MINUTES BILL DAILY
    PENALTY::::10 MINUTES GARY BETTMAN
    PENALTY::::GAME MISCONUCT, MLSE
    PENALTY::::GAME MISCONDUCT, WAYNE GRETZKY FOR STAYING QUITE.

    ATTENDANCE:::: 18,000 AT COPPS
    BLACKBERRIES FARM TEAM, PHOENIX ROADRUNNERS

    SCHEDULE

    BLACKBERRIES VS JETS
    NORDIQUES VS BLACKBERRIES

    FARM TEAMS SCHEDULE
    WATERLOO JR BLACKBERRIES VS TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS (FARM TEAM OF MONTREAL CANADIENS)

    MOST HATED GM IN NHL, BRIAN BURKE
  3. Jab Along from Canada writes: Sounds like a comedy of errors from the get go with the Phoenix Coyotes. The article suggests the team put its arena in the wrong place. But rather than looking where to put its own hockey arena, this begs the question as to why the Coyotes didn't just share the same arena used by the Phoenix Suns. Even in the best markets, like Toronto or New York City for instance, the hockey and basketball share a single arena. So it makes no sense that in a dubious hockey market like Phoenix, for the team to try to go it alone on its own building.
  4. sam kohen from Kingston, Canada writes: I strongly suggest that everyone living in Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto write to the top executives of their local NHL teams urging them to insist to Mr Bettman that he immediately drop this stupid and idiotic (and expensive) law suit. An online petition of sorts.

    Sam Kohen
    Kingston, Ontario
  5. tommy marks from glendale az, United States writes: Just renewed by season tickets today...also bought a lux. condo at a great price... After Jerry R. buy's the team and gets us some real hockey players...you can root for the Jets in the playoffs next year! WHOOT! Go Coyotes! Westgate is Great!
  6. Thomas Galan from Home of the PHOENIX COYOTES, United States writes: David,

    Get your facts straight !
    "The plaza is owned by Steve Ellman, the man who created this mess by rejecting a chance to build an arena in Scottsdale"

    Scottsdale voters in TWO elections, voted to build the arena in south Scottsdale. The mayor & city council on both occasions OVERRULED the voters, thus rejecting the Los Arcos arena.
  7. Hockeydad London from Canada writes: There is the rub, the NHL wants $400M for the expansion rights to Southwestern Ontario plus compensation to MLSE and the Sabres, not someone picking a team up for under 230M and moving it. This has nothing to do with rules and all to do with money.
  8. john duncan from Ahwatukee, United States writes: Um, I get a little tired of seeing glaring factual errors every time I read a Globe article on the Coyotes or the Phoenix area, and finally decided to start dorrecting them. For the record, I had lunch yesterday at Westgate, and after having to park much farther away than I had expected, ate at a restaurant that was much more than one-third full. Those of you who believe every word that's been printed in this paper have a substantially tainted view of the reality. I agree that things are not good here, but the situation is not at all like you read in these articles.
  9. pete . from kw, Canada writes: What's interesting is the impact of the privatization of public space and corporatization on the story. No one wants to comment for fear of reprisal of the corporate masters. While normally someone could walk next door to try another store, in this case the reporter is made to leave an area because they ask the wrong questions (while the shopping area around the stadium looks like a traditional mainstreet, it is all privately owned)
  10. Nick Sutherby from Vancouver, Canada writes: Jab Along:

    Originally the Coyotes played in the Sun's building, but it wasn't built for hockey, so apparently when they converted for hockey use it didn't quite work and there were some horrid sight-lines. Wikipedia (take it for what you will) states that parts of the stands even hung out slightly over the boards.

    I think the issue is exactly where the arena was placed. Only I don't think it was which [Blank]dale it was placed in, but moreover the fact it ended up in a desert.

    I appreciate that the NHL is trying to be loyal to its fans - I wouldn't want my team taken away either. However, if you only have 100,000 fans in Phoenix, and potentially 500,000 in southern Ontario, it's time to look at which business model is going to work better. Move the failing team already!
  11. Terry Terry from Brantford, Canada writes: The people in Phoenix are pretty quiet on forums like this one too. A lot of "who cares" type of responses -- very different sentiment that the Nashville folk back when Jim was trolling for the Predators. As a Hamiltonian I've been through the spin cycle a few times, this time I'll just sit back and see what unfolds, if it happens great, if it doesn't work out, big deal, that's where we already are.
  12. Tory LaPrath from Phoenix, United States writes: A lot of them are quiet because they're busy arguing over on the Phoenix paper's website. Okay, as someone who's had season tickets since they moved here, I can vouch for the seats at the old America West Arena (Now U.S. Airways Arena). Yes, indeed, there were horrible obstructed views of the ice. Yes, they really had to put video screens up there so the fans could watch the game. It was a horrible building for hockey. Yes, the voters approved the arena. And, yes, the Snottsdale city council overrode them, TWICE. When the team was winning, there were sell-outs. This town is notorious for being front-runners. When the Suns were tanking a few seasons ago, you couldn't GIVE AWAY a ticket to them. They started winning and all was right with them. When a team wins, support comes. Now, as far as Westgate goes, why go in the middle of the day when it's over 100? Why not go there say, oh, I don't know, at night? Restaraunts there typically have a wait time of more than an hour there on a weekend. Was I a hockey neophyte when the Coyotes moved here? Actually, I was less than a neophyte. I knew nothing apart from Gretzky and Lemieux's names. I went to a game, got hooked, and grabbed every book I could on the history of this sport. This is one of the best sports in the world and I routinely take people from work and get them converted to it, too. Am I going to be upset if this team moves? You're darn right I am. But, the one who's got me most worried is my 6 year old son. He's been going to the games since he was an infant, and he's a complete puckhead. Yep, living in the middle of a desert, in a "non-traditional" hockey market, and the kid is totally in love with the sport. He and kids like him are the future fans of this sport WE ALL love. Put in for an exapnsion team, Balsille. This team is on the brink of success, and with the success will come the support. Look at the Suns and Cardinals. Success in AZ = support.

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