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Dodgers outfielder banned for 50 games after taking 'medication' ...Read the full article

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  1. Midtown Bob from Canada writes: Who's next? Jim Thome?
  2. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: The deal for Jason Bay looks better and better, eh ?

    Slainte Mhath
  3. I, Alafrate from Canada writes: Miller,

    Are you saying you think he wasn't doping whilst plying his trade for your beloved Red Sox?

    Hmmm...
  4. Midtown Bob from Canada writes: Totally off topic but
    Hey I, Alafrate: nice handle.
  5. R Miller from Halifax, Canada writes: I, Alafrate from Canada :

    Are you saying that he was ?

    Proof please ?

    Slainte Mhath
  6. Ross Law from Canada writes: Manny being Manny!!!!!!
  7. Terrible Jerry from Canada writes: Well, that's everyone.
  8. D Chambre from Canada writes: If the trade wasn't made Manny would be gone anyways as he was a free agent. So anything that happens to him has no effect on the success or failure of the Bay trade.
  9. I, Alafrate from Canada writes: Miller,

    You're right... my last post was mildly inflammatory, and I apologize for the senstionalism of it.

    I'm not saying that he was doping in Boston, I'm just trying to suggest that it seems improbable that he started doping only after going to LA.

    (Disclaimer: I don't ever believe any athletes' explanations for positive tests.)
  10. Dizzy D from Canada writes: All I can say is HAHAHA. I've had a personal boycot on the MLB for 2 yrs now and I just love hearing about these cheaters being caught. Any professional athlete would have to have the intelligence of a 10yr old to be using any kinda of PED's in the midst of the A-Rod scandal. Which is why im not surprised that a 'me first', egomaniacle dumb @&& like Ramirez got busted.
  11. Tom Richards from Canada writes: Why not a lifetime ban. Does he still get paid?
  12. Smokezz from Southern Ontario from Canada writes: ROFL! And R Miller... you really aren't that that naive to think he just started with the performance drugs are you?
  13. Donald Redhorse from TAMPA BAY, United States writes: Manny Rameriz
    If only many of us were wiser in our youth then our regrets in later life would be fewer.
    This guy is obviously without a clue as to how fast his playing days will be over and he could wnd up being a physical cripple.
    Redhorse
  14. Shawn Bull from Canada writes: Is anybody freakin' clean in this sport?
  15. Bones Monseki from Canada writes: That should disrupt the Dodgers awesome start to the season, and eventually put the Jays on top of the MLB.

    He did a good job of growing out those dreads, so no-one would notice his head growing three sizes.

    How dumb do you gotta be? After all the scandal, how dumb?
  16. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: The article never says that the drug was a steroid so I don't know why everyone is jumping to that conclusion. But if it was, I can't say I'm surprised, who is anymore.

  17. G Bot from Canada writes: I have a hard time believing his doctor would not have checked what substances are banned before prescribing medication or even in today's MLB a player not asking his doctor if the medication he is going to take is free of banned substances.
  18. J H from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: Okay, speaking of dumb, 'this will put the Jays on top of the MLB'. Do you think the Jays winning ways will continue? If you look at divisions, they lost the series to the best team in the Central and have played the majority of their series against this division, the West is garbage and they haven't played Seattle yet, and they have not played the Yankees, Red Sox, or Rays yet this season. Jays fans will be in for a reality check once they play a real baseball team.

    As for Manny, I didn't realize Cheeseburgers were considered PED's now. Cause if there is anything Manny is using...its cheeseburgers. That guy could appear on any episode of the Trailer Park Boys and fit in with Randy extremely well. I'm pretty sure ManRam can pound back the Fenway Franks too.

    'Is anybody clean in this sport'? Well, when the Zaunfather himself tests positive, you can probably say no. One distinction that has to be made is that there is quite a long period of time where many doping agents were not considered banned substances. The Zaunfather took this stuff because if he didn't, he wouldn't be able to stand up after catching. The guy's knees are toast.
  19. Bones Monseki from Ottawa, Canada writes: 50 game suspension? for what else than a Performance enhancer
  20. Pat Billings from Canada writes: Bones. The Dodgers' performance has absolutely no impact on the Jays. They have their own division and league to worry about.

    I thought the steroid era was supposed to be over. Manny had been suspected to be on the steroid user list of 2003 (the one with 103 players, incl. A-Rod).

    At this point, Jose Canseco has more credibility in this matter than Selig and the rest of MLB.
  21. Bones Monseki from Ottawa, Canada writes: J H from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: Okay, speaking of dumb, 'this will put the Jays on top of the MLB'. Do you think the Jays winning ways will continue? If you look at divisions, they lost the series to the best team in the Central and have played the majority of their series against this division, the West is garbage and they haven't played Seattle yet, and they have not played the Yankees, Red Sox, or Rays yet this season. Jays fans will be in for a reality check once they play a real baseball team.

    Ohh I'm sorry J H, majesty of all things baseball. Can I replace the word 'eventually' with 'hopefully' Does that satisfy the wise one? Can I come out my room now?
    I'm well aware of their lack of games against the East - see my comments in the Jays Article. Of course you are only speculating, like I was. Thanks for that.

    Worst part about following baseball - baseball snobs.
  22. Bones Monseki from Ottawa, Canada writes: Pat Billings from Canada writes: Bones. The Dodgers' performance has absolutely no impact on the Jays. They have their own division and league to worry about.

    Other than the possibility of being the best team in Baseball, which 'HOPEFULLY' will catch some eyes in the U.S., bring attention to the Jays, fill up the dome....
  23. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: Bones, a drug that acts as a masking agent or greenies, maybe? I'm not a pharmacist or know every drug that is on the banned list but we should at least wait to pass judgment until we know exactly what it is he took.
  24. Midtown Bob from Canada writes: Shawn Bull from Canada writes: Is anybody freakin' clean in this sport?

    Back in the old days Babe Ruth apparently once ate 10 hot dogs before a ball game...
  25. Steve Church from Canada writes: Better get a note from his doctor. 50 games is career-sized black eye.
  26. p b from Canada writes: Seems like no one either believes Manny did take 15 tests and passed them, or that he can beat the tests!
    Would be silly, as another article posted today, points out that all tests are frozen, so that as testing gets better, one can go back and retest, and potentially, get caught. If a pro athlete wants to take that chance, with so much money on the line, well....good luck!
  27. And In this Corner from Canada writes: Really?

    Knowing this guy if he was truly INNOCENT he would be full of fight to clear his name - this is $7 million or 1/7th of his contract he is forgoing.

    He is guilty, guilty, guilty and all the sh**yte he cause the Sox is finally catching up with him.

    Nice to see this self centered egomaniac will have an asterisk beside his name from now on - well done Manuel.
  28. Frank Green from Vancouver, Canada writes: And he still isn't taking full responsibilty for his actions.... 'it was his doctors fault' .
  29. Natalie R from Canada writes: Tom Richards from Canada writes: Why not a lifetime ban. Does he still get paid? -------------------------------------- No. He will lose about $7 million dollars. And sucks for anyone who picked him up via fantasy. It wasn't steroids, it was performance-enhancing drugs. Very idiotic, you'd think he'd know better to check the banned list of substances in MLB before taking 'prescription' drugs. Anyways, you'd think baseball players would logically stop taking drugs after the A-Rod scandal, knowing that the MLB are going to start cracking down on this issue. Makes a mockery of baseball, if every other susperstar starts testing positive for banned substances.
  30. R OBryan from Canada writes: I always wondered why Manny's physique was so thick. The fact that he passed the other 15 tests may be an indication that he is telling the truth or it may be proof that his masking drug does not work for this 'new' prescription
  31. Bones Monseki from Ottawa, Canada writes: Joe Dirt pronounce Dirt-eh - Fiiiiiine, I'll wait and see
  32. Smokezz from Southern Ontario from Canada writes: Shawn Bull: You should correct that, and ask is anyone in ANY sport 'clean'...
  33. Ivan Wilson from Canada writes: Well that's a first - another pro 'athlete' stuffing his body full of cr@p to get even more millions. How unusual.
  34. Ivan Wilson from Canada writes: ALL pro sports are dirty. Get used to it.
  35. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: Other than Manny losing $7M, I don't think this will have any real effect. The Dodgers should still take that division easily. And it's one more reason why having a guy like Torre in the dugout is a good thing.
  36. R. M. from Regina, Canada writes: Unreal. That the time and its doctors would not have a protocol in place to vet ALL medications and treatments prescribed is unbelievable!!!

    As well the issue needs to more transparent. The name of the medication and its reason for use needs to be made public.

    Expensive pills or injection eh???? Nearlh $8 million!
  37. Paul Ingersoll from Canada writes: Not only should this cheater be suspended, but his hits, home runs and rbi's removed from the games he has played this year. If that changes the outcomes of some games, so be it. Maybe teams will become vigilant about signing these types of players if some wins come off the board.
  38. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: So besides being an arrogant jerk he's a cheat also, they should just throw him out of the game altogether, he's an embarasement to humanity.
  39. counteri intel from Canada writes:
    Why not await the facts people ??

    What drug was it ?

    What was Manny's condition ?

    Why didn't the doc or Manny know it was banned ?

    15 tests and no positives ?

    Manny has had a great career. He is a hard worker and a great hitter.

    Why not await the compelte facts ?
  40. Captain Feathersword from Canada writes: Wow....what a great day....what a wonderful world!
  41. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: Oh come on, wait, get a grip this is the same guy that slapped around a 60 year old assistant because he couldn't get him any more free tickets.
    He would never be tolerated in any other sport but baseball, where creeps and lowlifes are common place.
  42. Sil T from Mississauga, Canada writes: Guess he should have quit like Ortiz did.
  43. Red Ruffensore from Port Coquitlam, Canada writes: Hey guys, let's be fair: it wasn't Manny who did anything wrong, it was his doctor! In fact, it was only Manny's body that was present at the time - his mind was far, far awayin another galaxy, thinking about other things. So really, as Manny so generously implies, it's all the doctor's fault. Hey, the doctor 'thought' it was OK to give Manny that 'medicine'...who's Manny to be asking questions? Life is just so unfair to Manny. Isn't that right, Manny?
  44. foreign blue from Canada writes: wayne powers writes: 'he's an embarasement to humanity.'

    Wow. Not just a cheat. An embarassment to HUMANITY!
    You give humanity far to much credit. We are walking, talking apes and we will go to any extent to plant our seed, just as the apes do. Manny just got his hands caught in the especially juicy Banana jar.

    That being said, nice! I'd like to know if the jays play LAD this year during inteerleague play and whether we stand to benefit from this suspension.
  45. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: 'He would never be tolerated in any other sport but baseball, where creeps and lowlifes are common place. '

    Give me a F'ing break. Any sport has bad people, baseball is no exception. And Manny is hardly the prime example of a 'creep', he's just a goof.
  46. Jim S from Canada writes: Yahoo! is reporting that was not a masking agent or PED, but a sex drive enhancer

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au00zaopLU8nYNWDbnlvW0E5nYcB?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
  47. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: Lol, well technically it does enhance performance. Not sure how much it would help him hit home runs (on the baseball field that is).
  48. foreign blue from Canada writes: Well, that just isn't fair. I thought players were only allowed to swing one bat at the plate.
  49. And In this Corner from Canada writes: counteri intel from Canada writes:
    Why not await the facts people ??

    ----------------------

    Well, the facts are he took a substance, admitted it, and accepted the punishment without even a whimper.

    If he was going to challenge this like Clemons did, fine...but guilty is as guilty charged.

    What else do you need jack?
  50. Melissa Hillier from Toronto, Canada writes: Manny is and has always been an embarrassment to baseball.
  51. Bones Monseki from Ottawa, Canada writes: Joe Dirt from Canada writes: Lol, well technically it does enhance performance. Not sure how much it would help him hit home runs (on the baseball field that is).

    foreign blue from Canada writes: Well, that just isn't fair. I thought players were only allowed to swing one bat at the plate.

    hahahaha - that's good comedy!

    But you took all my jokes.

    If its what we think it is, ITS main purpose is to increase blood flow throughout the body and not just under the cup -

    Oh wait I got one - I told Manny chics wouldn't dig the dreads, and this is what it's come to.

    (lame joke)
  52. Raymond P from Canada writes: I'm waiting for the doping scandal in the professional bowling circuit.
  53. foreign blue from Canada writes: wayne powers writes: 'These guys in baseball can be fat pigs because it's a sedentary sport, scratching and spitting with brief moments of movement followed by more scratching and spitting. I guess that's why no kids want to sit and watch a game, it's boring and most of the guys are juiced.'

    Easy there, Rambo. Not all of us can run a triathlon while texting on our crack-berries.
  54. Gabriel Allon from Canada writes:
    Urinals should be mandatory in the batters box.
  55. sask dude from Canada writes: who cares....I bet most of these guys are taking something. If its not steroids or gh to get an edge, they are taking pot or painkillers. Not much of a suprise. The only thing I find suprising is that others can't believe it.
    And I bet if they could go back and test Babe Ruth's blood, we would find something in there as well.
  56. gabriel oak from Canada writes: Sex drive enhancer, you say? Tell me, Manny, where can I get some? Just wondering.
  57. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: Gammons is on ESPN explaining how baseball has the toughest banned list there is. When we get the actual name, I would be interested to know if any of the other 3 major leagues ban this drug also. If Manny was a WR, a power forward, or a defencemen do we hear about this? Do we care?

    But either way, it doesn't excuse personal responsibility. Manny took it and it was banned. He should serve 50 games.
  58. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes:
    The sad part is you try and tell your kids to play fair and stay within the rules, and the they look over and see these guys getting million of dollars because they cheat.It is being reported ARod was juiced in high school, oh boy just what the kids need more news on how cheater prosper. But I guess he's a real man eh
  59. Joe Dirt from Canada writes: I should have said toughest in the NA leagues, not in the world.
  60. Luke Powell from Vancouver, Canada writes: It's looking like he tested positive for hCG, a drug that is used for fertility treatment in men.

    The reason it's a banned substance is that it is often used in conjunction with anabolic steroids. Steroids will shut down the body's production of testosterone - hCG essentially restores the body's ability to manufacture it.

    Wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanchorionicgonadotropin
  61. Luke Powell from Vancouver, Canada writes: Arg. Forgot about the underscores.

    Wiki article: http://tinyurl.com/dzxvt

    Also, article indicating it was hCG: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907
  62. Y NOT from Canada writes: It's always someone elses fault.
  63. A non-Imus from Canada writes: Will Messrs. Griffey, Pujols, Thome and Delgado please report to the commissioner's office? He'd like to have a word with you.
  64. IBM IBM from Canada writes: LOL oh, he goes back to his mansion and suffers....woes me...public values and morals are so screwed up to pay these dork athletes millions anyways.

    Watching Corporate Sports these days is a waste of time anyways....statistics suck when the numbers have been skewed by drugged out so called athletes.

    Go buy your season tickets...LOL, just do it without the taxpayer paying for this junk entertainment.
  65. Terrible Jerry from Canada writes: Manny was caught using human chorionic gonadotropin, a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart natural testosterone production.

    Manny being mommy.
  66. Rabo Karibekian from Canada writes: Wow! Just as people had started to suggest that the Dodgers were the class of the NL.
  67. Alex C from Ottawa, Canada writes: Baseball is not a sport that I follow anymore & this just confirms why. As long as they make the money & people are ready to the pay big bucks to follow their adventures, then just be prepared for it! Heck, accept it! Soon, Mr. Ramirez might look just like Lyle Alzado at then end of his days... Too bad those enjoying his money won't necessarily be those who cared for him...
  68. JP C from Canada writes: It's just a case of 'Manny being Manny', as they say.

    A selfish schmuck who doesn't give a care a whit about his team.

    Yep, that's Manny all right.
  69. Compos Mentis from Toronto, Canada writes: Proof once again that there is way too much money being paid to these 'professional' athletes.
  70. A C from Albertario, Canada writes:

    Suspicions were raised when Manny began cycling to work wearing a yellow jersey.

    .
  71. wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: Have any of you guys had to take steroids for medial reasons something like, prednisone, then you know the "I didn't know" is a load.
    You take this stuff and you know within hours and in a few days boy does the pain of exercise ever feel good. People have to make you stop doing weights,because the more it burns the better you feel. Now it should not take a rocket scientist to realize that something is not right. So if you buy any of these cheats excuse about not knowing and it's not their fault, you are living in lala land.
  72. A C from Albertario, Canada writes:

    wayne powers writes: He would never be tolerated in any other sport but baseball, where creeps and lowlifes are common place.

    So you mean to say he wouldn't be tolerated in the sport of dog fightin. . . I mean the NFL?

    .
  73. A Realist from Canada writes: I doubt the substance was to improve his mental acumen.

    It's no big deal - he gets a couple of months off. The fact he and the union didn't fight speaks volumes.
  74. Sonny Crockett from Canada writes: If there is a medication that you can pick up from a physician that will make you bat .348 in the majors, then we have medical breakthrough on our hands. I'd like to go get some for myself, since my baseball league has no drug policy, I wouldn't have any problems.

    There is no substance that will give you skills like Manny's, stop hating.
  75. sask dude from Canada writes: Wayne power...prednisone is not an anoblic steroid. It is an anti inflammatory.
  76. boo bear from saint john, Canada writes: i bet scott boras is really upset. that scum bag doesn t care a hoot about his players he just wants the money. he would have know and come on manny you don t go to the doctor for that scrip. your a cheat plain and simple too bad mlb didn t have the parts and kick you and the rest of the cheaters out for good. baseball is basically dead and well be stone dead in a few years. no fan support and teams in big financial trouble. oh well only themselves to blame.
  77. Trev C from Orleans, Canada writes:
    Dang. The team needs to get a doctor like other teams have so these guys can stop taking drugs without knowing whether they are banned.

    Dummy
  78. Tim London from Canada writes: Sonny Crockett from Canada writes: If there is a medication that you can pick up from a physician that will make you bat .348 in the majors, then we have medical breakthrough on our hands. I'd like to go get some for myself, since my baseball league has no drug policy, I wouldn't have any problems.

    There is no substance that will give you skills like Manny's, stop hating.

    /////////////////////////

    Couldn't have said it better myself Sonny. I liked to see some of these mouth pieces above try and hit a 90 mph breaking ball. I know hitting a baseball is no where near as difficult as say... pushing a piece of rubber around with a stick.
  79. Sonny Crockett from Canada writes: wayne powers from saskatoon, writes: "You take this stuff and you know within hours and in a few days boy does the pain of exercise ever feel good. People have to make you stop doing weights,because the more it burns the better you feel. "

    And how does that make you better at baseball? More muscle does not make a better athlete. These people are being vilified by jealous men who wish they could be pro athletes and use any excuse to knock them down a peg.
  80. Wally Grisold from Toronto, Canada writes: Well now that Mannie is suspended for 50 games. He will have copius free time to do other things. 50 games, that should be just enough time for him to get his hair cut.
  81. Malcolm MacKay from Canada writes: All those homerun records, etc., should be wiped out. The only record that should stand is the 61 home runs by Roger Maris in 1961. All other records are tainted by drugs. I can't believe the liars and cheats in the game today. Very sad indeed.
  82. sask dude from Canada writes: Malcolm.....how do you know Maris wasn't taking something? Whose to say he wasn't taking cocaine, or speed? Pretty sure that back in the sixties..drugs were pretty easy to get at.
  83. dave charleston from toronto, Canada writes: Only 50 games sit him down for the whole year without pay
  84. Malcolm MacKay from Canada writes: sask dude from Canada writes: Malcolm.....how do you know Maris wasn't taking something? Whose to say he wasn't taking cocaine, or speed? Pretty sure that back in the sixties..drugs were pretty easy to get at.

    I have to admit, that back in the day, I had tried both those drugs. And believe me, you would not be able to hit a baseball on either one of those drugs. Not something coming at you at over 90 MPH

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