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Black belt teen strikes back at bully, and rallies community against racism

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

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  1. D G from Canada writes: It's funny that as soon as I read the title I feared the article was going to go where it did - the boy being bullied was the one charged. Hopefully the bully's family will withdraw the charges and walk away from this and yet the other boy and his family live in peace.
  2. Mitch Sprague from Ottawa, Canada writes: Why was the bully not charged with assault?
  3. james york from Torontostan, Canada writes: It seems like Keswick has to face the fact that it has Chinese immigrants living with white trash.
  4. garlick toast from Canada writes: It's amazing how a minority can set the tone for a whole town when no one speaks up. Those redneck racists probably represent 10% of Keswick and yet they smear the entire community with their reprehensible actions. The one-sided response by the cops reinforces the discrimination.
    Canada is no place for crackers.
  5. Shaky Lady from guelph, Canada writes: And what color under the rainbow would you be Mr. Toast?
  6. Nicholas F from Canada writes: Imagine if there is no white students stand up for this poor boy. Nice way to stop bully in school. Nice police work too.
  7. John Ridout from Canada writes: what an awesome act of decency by the students at this school. My hats off to them for their willingness to show leadership to the school, the police and the whole adult community. Congratulations all!!!!!
  8. Winston Churchill from London, Canada writes: I would have thought the police would have charged the kid who started the fight, not the kid who won it. Last I heard, self defence as a natural right.
  9. garlick toast from Canada writes: Shaky Lady from guelph, Canada writes: And what color under the rainbow would you be Mr. Toast?
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    Red and white, just like our flag.To quote Frank Zappa,'' I'm not black but there's a lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white''. If I were a Keswickian, this would be one of those times.
  10. Harry Plummer from Doha, Canada writes: Judging by the comments of the bully and his cousin it seems the white intellegensia are alive and well in Keswick. Its sounds like a small town in the movie Deliverance. In fairness it must be the inbreeding in this town that led to this behaviour. It also begs the questions what the police, and so called law abiding citizens were doing to prevent this moronic behaviour.
  11. S M from Canada writes: 'james york from Torontostan, Canada writes: It seems like Keswick has to face the fact that it has Chinese immigrants living with white trash. '

    LOL.. It's when the 'white trash' see how well the 'dirty foreigners' are doing, they are reminded of their own inadequacies and lash out.
  12. Duncan K from Canada writes: Kudos to the kids at the school.
  13. Sask Langer from Canada writes: Back in my day, when the bullied, non-white kid took a round out of the racist white-trash kids, they stopped picking on him and let him be.

    Seems that constantly playing the victim, like we see from the loudest of the 'but what about the rights of 'real Canadians' like me' crowd only makes them that much less like the 'good old days' they want to go back to. Back in the day, the bully who got his &ss kicked wouldn't have dared bring it up for fear of being labelled a wuss.

    Good on the rest of the students for realizing the world has moved on quite well and doesn't have time for this sort of garbage.
  14. Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
    The Korean-Canadian boy had every right to defend himself. The white bully had every right to receive a broken nose. If this white kid has any intelligence and tough-love parents, he'll learn from this. This sort of thing happened to me. I was the bully. Many decades ago, but I never forgot the lesson. I regularly pushed a kid around in grade 5. I thought I would continue this in grade 6. My stupidity was so advanced I didn't notice he grew half a foot over the summer. He whipped my butt. I deserved it. I saw him on the street years later, and we shared a pleasant chat. He had become a cop. A really big cop, and a nice guy. Me, I never resumed my brief and unsuccessful career as a bully, and became a nicer guy, too.
  15. Squish_a_p From BC from Canada writes: Good for the students. I support the Asian family. I want to see the bully charged also. I have some slurs for him and his family but in the interest of my own self esteem, I will keep them to myself.
  16. Henry Allen from East Bank, Don River, Canada writes:
    Dave Leggit wrote: 'Cops are the most racist pigs I have ever come across.'

    A stupid generalization.
  17. jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: A good example of how white racism is so prevalent in Canada. Black and Asian students are always being bullied by racist white students who are jealous of how well non white students do in school. Its time to put a stop to it, and if violence is necessary, then violence is necessary.
  18. Auroran Bear from Montreal, Canada writes: Nice to see the kids in the school standing up for him.

    And G&M, I don't think we needed to see the slurs.
  19. John Percy from Broke Bank Mountain, Canada writes: Nice to see our children setting the good example for their parents and community. If they learned this lesson from their parents and school, why isn't the community backing them up?
  20. O S from Canada writes: It seems there is hope for our future if the students have a better grasp of ethics and morality than thier elders. How would this have played itself out if the defendant had been Jewish? Would we have invoked some form of hate crime clause in that case? I see little difference here and suggest the individuals making the racial slurs be brought before the courts on charges related to that.
  21. jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: This is more proof that Canada has to limit immigration from white european countries, and increase immigration from African and Asian countries, Toronto is a bastion of white racism. The only way to overcome this is to import more non-European immigrants.
  22. Sask Langer from Canada writes: @jomo wanjala: I disagree. The only way to overcome this is through education. Everyone has the capability to be racist, the only way to stop it is for kids to grow up realizing that people can be different, and that's not a bad thing.
  23. kevin gauthier from Wasaga Beach, Canada writes: This ought to be a required read for every citizen of Canada!
  24. G P from St. John's, Canada writes: The one being bullied is charged. Another FAIL by the idiotic justice system of this country. I hope you all realize you do NOT have the right to self-defense.
  25. b e from owen sound, Canada writes: it seems to me that the school has some racial issues
    Expel the ASIAN student ? while he just defended himself against some punk who more than likely does not have a 90 score in school;

    O but they are a minority and get called names and cant say anything or fight back when attacked
    Im right now ashamed to be a Canadian and hope that the dig deeper in the little town , something else is going on deep down
  26. dave ross from Canada writes: jomo wanjala, having grown up in a small town let me assure you it's not always different skin colour that provokes bullying. I used to get harassed just for doing well in scholl and being a preacher's kid. As a result I lowered my efforts in school. I was never so happy when my father was transferred to a city big enough for me to be anonymous, and to attend a school where intelligence and good marks were not immediately scorned.
  27. The Mckenzie Brothers from Canada writes: I wouldn't say the kid or his family are racist. The kid probably was felt threatened by the other kids good grades and alikeability and lashed out. Being from a small town I know they dont take crap from anyone so the Korean family and the kid fits well in the community and you also tell from the support the kid got from his classmates.
  28. jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: I find the fact the Globe and Mail prints so few, if any, storys detailing the bullying African Canadians receive in school by white racists. Is the Globe & Mail perhaps, a bit too Conservative? They did support Stephen Harper in their editorial prior to the last election.
  29. PROPAGANDA moronto from Canada writes: jomo wanjala

    You managed to blow hot air mixed with you racist agenda and general idiotism in your post. So just do the world a favour and jump off a bridge somewhere
  30. Harry Rickard from Timmins, Canada writes: Good story about students doing the right thing... The same (racial slurs, punches, kickings etc...) happens to native students all the time. But we will never hear a story about whites rallying around the native student, never have, never will. Why is that I wonder.
  31. Geoffrey May from Canada writes: The headline is misleading , It wasn't the karate kid who rallied the town, but the peaceful demonstrtaion , responding to racism and injustice .As for authorities coming down on the victim instead of the bully , that's standard .
  32. Kenneth Yurchuk from Canada writes: The boy's father said: 'I don't want to run away. If another Asian kid comes to this school, what happens to him? Will he run into problems? Will they think they can just kick him out? I don't want to set that example,' he said.

    'Personally, for my kid, I should move. But as a Canadian I cannot move.'

    This man is a great Canadian. Great guts, and great role model for his son and many others.

    'Teach your Children Well'
  33. J M from Canada writes: Jomo, your racism towards caucasians is showing. Limited immigration from ANY region is a racist policy. I'm sure you jump all over people who say we should limit immigration from Muslim countries.
  34. bse madcow from Canada writes: If people write to the town council and the local school board in Keswick to let them know their thoughts on this matter, the increased public attention may persuade them to do the right thing and drop all charges against the Asian student.

    The protest by 400 fellow students forced the police to reopen the investigation. Imagine what thousands of letters might do...
  35. Kenneth Yurchuk from Canada writes: b e from Owen Sound; this story makes me proud, not ashamed , to be a Canadian. The town, and 400 students, mostly white, and from the same background as the bully in this case, rallied around the student who was bullied and fought back.

    There will always be a racist component to Canadian society, but clearly it is a very small minority, and the majority are not prepared to tolerate it. Good on the kids of Keswick for showing their solidarity.
  36. Claude Carriere from Canada writes: First: Good for the kids in the school, carry that with you through the rest of your lives, well done.

    Second: Not having all the facts of the case, it's too easy to cast the school and police with supporting the bullying.

    We have a peacefull country in part because many police forces across the country do a great job.

    There will always be some bad apples, it happens in every profession, just look at banking and investments these days.

    Based on the article alone, it would seem this particular police force needs some education on how to conduct outreach programs for its members.
  37. George Nikitin from Hamilton, Canada writes: 90% average and selfdefence, the young man faces expulsion. The outpouring of solidarity among the young man's classmate's restores some faith in humanity.
  38. Ted Harrison from Canada writes: Why is there even a question of the kid being expelled given the circumstances? If it's true that this is still a possibility, then the principal of that school needs to grow a spine and a brain stat.
  39. Mike J from Ottawa, Canada writes: I cannot believe the bully is not being charged. This is ridiculous. He uttered a racial slur and punched someone so he needs to be charged under the hate crimes laws so that his punishment will be severe. The victim needs to be exonerated as he did nothing wrong. He showed great restraint in not using more of his black belt capabilities against the bigot who attacked him. The state should then demand that the bully and/or his family pay a large sum of money to the victim and his family for restitution for all they have gone through. This, to me, would be justice and anything less blatant discrimination. I never thought southern Ontario would mimic the southern U.S. but I guess I was wrong. Do they wear white covers over their heads down in Southern Ontario too?
  40. Brian Havelock from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Seems like a case of sele defence as I see it. The white guy is lucky he didn't get the boots put to him.
  41. So I'm the Pot and you're the kettle? Right? from Canada writes: This makes me ashamed to be Canadian reading stuff like this. The racist actions by the kid are regrettable but kids can be stupid and need to be educated. Indifference is the greater evil and I think the true wrong doing is on the behalf of the police and the school administration. By being not condemning the bully actions with a harsh penalty that have in fact encouraged them. It is somewhat meaningless to put this opinion on a web board like this so I am going to send it to them. I encourage you to do the same, here is the e-mail:

    keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca
  42. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To garlick toast and Shaky Lady: If we didn't call 'white' folk white, but pink, which is what their (and mine) colour really is, I think we'ld have less racists remarks... I get a good laugh at thinking about the KKK going around in pink sheets...

    As to that bully not being charged, I bet he went running home crying to daddy, who perhaps is the police chief or the mayor based on the slowness of the police to lay charges on the bully as the instigator (at least hockey has that right) ... what a wuss that bully is indeed, he couldn't even stomach the deserved beating he took from one punch from the other guy's weaker hand.

    But kudo's galore to the kids who organized and supported the protest! That is what being a Canadian is all about, standing up for those who face injustice.
  43. kevin Chong from MIssissauga, Canada writes: The Ministry of Education must get involved.
    It is borderline irresponsible to allow this gross injustice.
    This cannot be how our tax dollars is allowed to be managed.
    I am no longer interested in purchasing a cottage anywhere up north.
    They have succeeded. May all my fellow visibly minority citizens join me in this outrage. Let's see if collectively we can be heard.
    The damage done to this child is irreversible. May he use this horrible experience to become a better citizen as I have done.
  44. brm 2000 from Hogtown, Canada writes: I hear the banjos plucking in north, northern Ontario!
  45. R M from Toronto, Canada writes: 'Auroran Bear from Montreal, Canada writes: Nice to see the kids in the school standing up for him.

    And G&M, I don't think we needed to see the slurs. '

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    We certainly did to understand fully the context of the situation the kid was facing. If he were just 'called names' you could say 'ooooh, he was called names, big deal!'

    Besides, there's more than enough censorship in the world today; try to appreciate the rare times when there isn't any.
  46. North Star from Canada writes: The police in Keswick seem to be part of the problem if it takes large public demonstrations for them to do the right thing. And the school telling the new Canadians to move away as a remedy is part of the racist problem too. Keswick is stuck in the 1950's.
  47. Mike Toronto from Canada writes: Let's not lose sight of the fantastic students who staged and participated in the walk-out. They showed true maturity and character. I think (and hope) that the next generation will be a lot more colorblind than the previous ones.
  48. Jeff W from Calgary, Canada writes: Well, we have one side of the story? Are these the facts from police statements or hearsay? Anything else happen that led up to this? Was there any other incidents between the two that led up to this? If the kid was a bully, has he intimidated other students?
    The article seems a little sensationalized. It sounds like it is more of a case of bullying. If it was another 'white' student, this wouldn't even be in the news. Schools don't like this kind of publicity as they don't want to acknowledge there are bullies in the system and that they do nothing about them. I know lots of parents that have had to move their children to a different school due to bullying or even move to a different town.
    Dave Ross has it right. It doesn't matter who you are, what color or boy or girl, anyone can be bullied at school.
    Have you heard how 15 year olds talk to each other these days and even adults they don't know?
  49. D F from Canada writes: What an amazing show of support by the students. The parents who aren't 'white trash' need to do the same. If the whole town doesn't want to get tarred and feathered by this red neck, racist, unacceptable attitude they all need to stand up and be counted. The old saying about one rotten apple is true. The town now has a choice about how they want to be perceived and how they really want to be. They should be concerned as this is far from the first incident. Only they can chose how this will truly turn out. I am very impressed by the students and by the victim. There is obviously at least one family in that town that needs to learn respect and tolerance, and for their sakes, I certainly hope they do.
  50. Dick Garneau from Canada writes: The police and the school has a racist problem.

    Kudos to the students who walked out in protest.

    Zero tolerance against racism.
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  51. What Do I Know from Mississauga, Canada writes: You know it's funny... about a couple of years ago neighbor of mine caught couple of teenagers trying to break into his truck parked in the driveway. He and his brother – big guys – caught them around 2AM and gave them significant beating. I have to admit as a neighbor it felt good because ever since we didn’t have any problems with stuff parked or left around the house. Now, I have to wonder… if those two kids that came to rummage and steal were actually two white boys likely scenarios would be that they would go home, show black eye or whatever. Then, dad and mom would get real upset and, even after kid would tell what he was doing to receive such a beating, my guess is that mom and dad would respond something like… but the beating you received greatly exceeds the crime, we’re going to police. But that’s not enough, another component of this is that white mom and dad would probably meet white police officer who would probably take their complaint as a valid one; i.e. police officer would probably agree that the punishment exceeds the crime and they would end up at my neighbor door and most likely he would be arrested. And if that were not bad enough, those two kids would learn a valuable lesson is misbehaving in society. So, what a person like me – and I assume there a plenty of us – can do to somehow reverse this kind of thinking that grossly mismanages this kind of behavior?
  52. You (D F, from Canada) wrote: I lived in a situation for a year and a half where I got to enjoy the position of being a minority. While I did not experience any negative repercussions, I learned a lot about how it feels not to be in the majority. It is an experience everyone should have, it opens your eyes like little else can.
  53. Brian Havelock from Winnipeg, Canada writes: 'Have you heard how 15 year olds talk to each other these days and even adults they don't know?

    Surely you aren't tarring all 15 year olds with the same brush.
  54. Jesse Winger from Calgary, Canada writes: Exactly why was the bully not charged? Is small town Keswick, Ontario a bastion of KKK'ers or what? The students certainly seem to know right from wrong in backing their asian classmate.

    Come on police and school officials of Keswick: get your act together or your town will be derided nationally as a bastion of backwater racsists. Act sooner rather than later.
  55. samuel cogley from trawna, Canada writes: i have often found that when someone is doing rather well for themselves like this young man was, there are those of low intelligence who will be jealous. they will seize upon any pretext to 'get' them.

    it has nothing to do with race or colour, its pure jealousy on the part of idiots who can only aspire to be a stock boy at the local supermarket.

    they see other students getting higher marks, or a person with a higher paying job, or someone with more money or just something they dont have and never will, a really nice life with places to go.

    it eats and eats at them and they strike out.

    not to excuse the white tool that did this. he deserves the stock boy job. you will find his type of person in ANY low income area. they think the entire planet owes them a lavish living and income just because they were born and they want it.

    kudos to the young man who stood up for himself. hopefully the kids at that school can teach their parents a lesson. i doubt it though, people like that are unteachable. if they were who would stock our grocery stores?
  56. And In this Corner from Canada writes: Why aren't we hearing from the parents of the bully?

    Because his parents are racist hicks just like the son and the cousin.

    Funny thing is if you track where these kids will be in 10- 15 years, the korean kid will have a career and be full of confidence; the bully in jail with low-self esteem and/or working for the city.

    Most white people in small towns are nice - but they harbour the most racist sentiments. (No need to challenge this statement - that is from personal experience).

    Incredible how the police only re-open the case after public attention - why isn't this a hate crime (assault based on race?)

    I hope the Korean family stays strong.
  57. BJ U from Fredericton, Canada writes: I feel for you man, but try not to worry about it. No judge in their right mind will convict you. What you did was justified in the Criminal Code (section 34). You did not use more force than was necessary in self defense.
  58. NORTH MAN from Canada writes: the kid fought back and in canada that is a big no no

    in this country we punish the victims and coddle the criminals

    as most leftwing hug a thug people cant fight back they want to make sure you cant either

    my only suggestion is to learn your lesson, take your beating, and never vote for a leftwing political party
  59. Flander Jones from Canada writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: This is more proof that Canada has to limit immigration from white european countries, and increase immigration from African and Asian countries, Toronto is a bastion of white racism. The only way to overcome this is to import more non-European immigrants.

    When I was in India I had people throw things at me and to spit on me etc. I have had friends treated poorly in Japan because of their ancestry. We all have heard of the atrocities in Rwanda committed in the name of tribal allegiances. People are people Jomo. The colour of one's skin does not make them any better or any worse. Education is the only way we can try and end these problems.
  60. Boner In Sweatpants from Canada writes: Great job by the school board. Suspend the kid who was acting in self defence! SIGH ...
  61. Guelph Storm OHL Fan from Blue, Canada writes: I'm sorry 'garlic toast' I don't know what a 'cracker' is.

    The offender is not only a bully, but also a coward for charging the other boy with assault. The bully did hit him first. This makes no sense at all. This is how it should be, regardless of race.

    I hope the Korean/Canadian family does not move away from their community, they did nothing wrong
  62. bob miller from Canada writes: We like to think of ourselves as more sophisticated than the American 'white trash' in our approach to other cultures, but are we really? This story says a lot about small town (and big town) Canada. Hope the boy who defended himself does not have to 'pay the price' for our ignorance. Nice police work though....surprised they didn't come and tazer the kid.
  63. indy jones from Canada writes:

    Strange that the bigots that show up in these forums attacking aboriginals don't show up here too....?????

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  64. David K from Guelph, Canada writes: Err, North Man? I think you will find that the difficulties faced by this young man are a result of the 'zero tolerance' policies by that nice Mr Harris, hardly a thug hugger. There is no flexibility in the response of either the school system or the police thanks to Mr H's little bit of social engineering. Bullies know this and play the system to their advantage.
  65. Dawn from Minnesota from Minnesota, United States writes: It is unfortunate that the story doesn't end with lessons learned.

    The Korean-Canadian boy was harassed and attacked. He fought back. He won the fight. Why is there a problem?

    If there are anti-bullying and anti-discrimination laws in the community, the white boy should be charged with bullying and a hate crime.

    In the adult world, everybody cheers for the victim who fights back and wins. Usually, the person being picked on does not win.

    Good for the black belt teen and good for his schoolmates.
  66. V Patterson from Fredericton, Canada writes: Excellent post @ 8:29 by Hockey Guy.
    The lesson learned in this situation is the majority of kids in that school are smarter than the adults in charge of that town.....
  67. j wilson from vancouver, Canada writes:
    North man, how is this 'get tough on youth crime' response a left wing response?

    The kid who won the fight gets charged, no questions asked, in the Conservative 905. Wussy frightened Reformers.
  68. M D from GTA, Canada writes: Auroran Bear from Montreal, Canada writes: Nice to see the kids in the school standing up for him.

    And G&M, I don't think we needed to see the slurs.

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    Why not? I like to read what actually happened versus guessing at the actual extent of the truth.
  69. Toronto S from Canada writes: Now that the Bully made the Globe and Mail after having his nose broken, the parents must do the right thing MOVE HIM out of the school so that he has a better life,family is not about blindly supporting your own, but making them do what is right and providing better opportunities for them.
  70. simply sanj from Montreal, Canada writes: These kids that demonstrated make me proud to be a Canadian and show that hope for change lies with the youth.

    I would urge you to write directly to the school and police department to voice your displeasure at their decisions.

    Here are their publicly available email addresses and contact information;

    CATHERINE McGINLEY
    Principal
    Keswick high school
    keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    York Regional Police Department
    Armand P. La Barge
    Chief of Police
    info@yrp.ca
  71. J. Madison from Toronto, Canada writes: A sad, but wonderful story. I particularly liked the father's comment: as a Canadian, I cannot move. You have only been in this country four years, but already you have grasped what I think is an essence of being Canadian, a sense of fair play and care for others in your community. Bravo.
  72. T R from Canada writes: instrument of popular choice in Keswick is the banjo.

    that kid is lucky he only got a broken nose. sounds like his older cousin could use a talk behind the woodshed as well. I don't think 'education' is going to work on this family. back with the cane.
  73. Joe InOntario from Canada writes: I have to hand it to you 'jomo'.

    You are a racist, angry, insecure white man or boy who is constantly trolling the comments section posing as a militant black espousing ridiculous hard-left views.

    However, the Globe's 'moderators' just can't seem to figure out what everyone else already has.

    Please find a new routine. You're pathetic and not nearly as clever as you think you are.
  74. D K from Winterpeg, Canada writes: The asian family should NOT be forced to move their son to another school. Gees, you defend yourself and next thing you know you're being forced to another location. This is not fair. Good thing the students are more mature than the adults who operate up there in Keswick.
  75. annick aubert from toronto, Canada writes: The bully was cruising for a broken nose, he got what he asked for.
    The young man who used his weaker hand was very brave, and the fact that other students are rallying around him is heart warming.
    Kudos to them all
  76. Binder Dundat from Canada writes:
    First reaction of mine would be to make a disparaging comment about Keswick, a town that has long been a punchline in Ontario.

    But the fact that the town's youth have taken action has shut me up. Congratulations to every one of the students who have stood up and been heard. You have our attention and respect.

    Congratulations also to the karate kid for apparently showing restraint.
  77. Tom Wallace from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Small, rural, mostly white. Pretty much sums it up. Ignorant parents teaching smart kids dumb things.
  78. Joe Wallach from Russell, Ontario, Canada writes: Good for the high school students. The bully got away with relatively minor damage thanks to the discipline of the unnamed 15 year old Asian and his father. There should be charges, against the damned bully, whereas those against the Asian should be completely expunged from his record.
  79. Montgomery C. Burns from Springfield, Canada writes: Authorities will need to open another landfill to contain all of the white trash in this province.
  80. Fred Gunter from Stillwater, United States writes:

    Asian youths bash white kid in downtown Toronto -that's not news.

    'Redneck' white kid bashes asian kid in Simcoe -now that's news.

    Way to go confirming trendy racial stereotypes G & M -good job!
  81. Master T from Burlington, Canada writes:

    Hey - instead of saying I am proud to be black, white, yellow, green, blue, etc, how about we all just agree that it's great to be human.

    That, afterall, is what we ALL have in common.
  82. John Birch from Canada writes: Porpaganda M:

    'You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.'

    Do bear in mind that a couple of Cauc racists hung a skeleton painted black in the yard of a black police officer in Keswick in 2006.

    If anything, it appears that Keswick Cauc racists have been equally capable against all non-white Canadians. I'm just glad that someone gave one of these racist caucs a good a*s-whuppin', old-school style.
  83. It's Crikey from Canada writes: It's good to hear the other kids in the school all stood up for the guy who was bullied.
  84. Investment Industry Insider from Toronto, Canada writes: So funny -- the stipid racist called the kid a Chinese when he is clearly a Korean-- goes to show you who pathetic racist are as a whole-- probably a future Cop or Conservative backbencher
  85. Warren Reinhart from London, Canada writes: To clarify some misconceptions among posters here:

    1. The one boy is not charging the other boy here, the Queen is. Assault is a criminal action, battery is the tort equivalent, if the white boy were charge him it would be with battery.

    2. The police don't interpret the law, they enforce it. Both students should probably have been taken in.

    Neither party should really be applauded here, but in the same position as the black belt almost everyone would have done the same thing. If anyone is to blame it is whoever began the fight.
  86. Northern PoV from Canada writes: An all too typical knee-jerk reaction by the police and high school. And likely just institutional stupidity - not racism - to be charitable.

    Those 400 kids do give me hope:

    'Kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight'
  87. Dawn from Minnesota from Minnesota, United States writes: bob miller from Canada writes: 'We like to think of ourselves as more sophisticated than the American 'white trash' in our approach to other cultures, but are we really?'

    To bob miller from Canada: You seem very insecure. Why can't you see you life in Canada from a Canadian perspective, not in terms of your jaded and inaccurate view of life in the United States.

    There are racists in every country.

    The racism in this incident had nothing to do with the United States.

    The best way to look at this incident is to reflect on the actions and the people involved.

    If school rules about fighting only apply to the victim who was fighting back and not the bully who started the fight, perhaps those rules will be changed. It seems like the community is on the victims' side.
  88. bob london from Canada writes: Should have used the right. Canada, the only country you can't defend yourself.

    How do you find the cops of the future? Find the guys crushing beer cans on their forehead today.

    Protecting their own................... The bullies.....................
  89. JP Zyla from Canada writes: I think it's important to realize that the Principal and the school board are the ones who start and decide on whether or not the student is suspended or expelled. That has nothing to do with the police. There seems to be some racism involved at that level. It also does seem odd (at the very least) that the student that was bullied was the only one charged. Now that this case has supposedly been reopened, maybe the other student will be charged also. Maybe they should also look into whether or not there is a problem with who is in charge of the police up there. The chief must know something about this, especially now.
  90. Dawn from Minnesota from Minnesota, United States writes: To simply sanj from Montreal, Canada: Good post! Thanks for providing contact information.
  91. Hee Hoo Sai from Canada writes: Canadian law has absolutly nothing to do with what is fair or just. The law is merely a list of rather ignorant rules made and enforced by people who are incapeable of concious thought.
  92. The choices we make decide our place in life from Canada writes: Good for Asian boy. The charges are unfortunate but more kids have to stand up for themselves.

    We had to deal with a simmilar situation 10 years ago with my daughter. She was in grade 3 at the time. Three other girls started bullying her. Two held her arms while the third proceeded to kick her in the groin and deliver nipple pinches. One of the girls holding my daughter arms lost her grip, giving my daughter the chance to push the other one down and ran away to tell a teacher. This all happened on school property during recess. The school was only going to give the 3 girls detentions but, even more insulting, they were also going to give my daughter a detention for pushing one of the girls. Essentially punishing her for defending herself.

    I intervened with the school. After the school would not budge on their position I decided to play dirty pool. I told the school that the nature of the attack qualified as a sexual assault. Thus I would take it up with the police and the school board and make it quite public that a sexual assault had occurred on school property between students, however; the school administration was refusing to act on the incident.

    Well; you never saw a principal back peddle so fast. The detention for my daughter was withdrawn, the two girls who restrained my daughter were suspended and the girl who did the actual kicking and pinching was expelled and the school recommended to her parents that they seek treatment from a child psychologist for her. The police were involved but no charges were laid because all the kids involved were under 12 years old at the time. But having the police interview each of the parents of the other 3 girls, the teacher on duty in the play ground at the time and the school administration made the point. Don't punish kids for defending themselves, punish the kids who started the incident in the first place, and most importantly - provide a safe learning environment for our children.
  93. BRAMPTON ON from Canada writes: The boy being bullied is a KOREAN from Korea, not a Chinese, can these people tell the differance between KOREAN, CHINESE and JAPANESE ??.
  94. The choices we make decide our place in life from Canada writes: One more thing. These white kids who started bullying this kid should also be charged with hate crimes related to the assault. It was obviously racially motivated.
  95. Allan McElroy from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Warren Reinhart, I disagree with your last 2 points.

    The cops interpret the law as they see fit, and you are welcome to argue later in court. If the charge was completely unreasonable and it needlessly interfered with your life for a week or a year, too bad so sad. I believe we are seeing that here, where the aggressor was not charged but the victim was. Did the cops not like the brown skin?----

    'Neither party should be applauded here.' Wrong. The Korean boy stood up to a bully and gave him what he deserved. Good for him!
  96. simply sanj from Montreal, Canada writes: One more thing,

    Here is the facebook group that the kids have created to stop racism, support the Asian youth in question;

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=69508442682
  97. The choices we make decide our place in life from Canada writes: John Birch from Canada writes: Porpaganda M:Do bear in mind that a couple of Cauc racists hung a skeleton painted black in the yard of a black police officer in Keswick in 2006.

    ===========================================

    Keswick has gone downhill over the last 20 years. I had family living there during the 80s. It was a nice community then. It sounds to me like Keswick has become one big trailer park today. Very unfortunate.
  98. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To Fred Gunter from Stillwater: 'Asian youths bash white kid in downtown Toronto -that's not news.

    'Redneck' white kid bashes asian kid in Simcoe -now that's news.

    Way to go confirming trendy racial stereotypes G & M -good job!'

    No, not really, think about it, really only reason this was made the big news was likely due the actions of the students who protested against this injustice, as otherwise the G & M would never of heard of it, but that action on their part made it news worthy, and rightly so...
  99. Abdulla Waleed from Sumspot, Canada writes: Go to http://www.keswick.hs.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/

    On the left side of the page click on Character Matters!

    Click on The Ten Tenets of Character at KHS.

    It appears to me that the students embrace what is written there.

    The principal may want to take the time to read that page.
  100. Sask Langer from Canada writes: BRAMPTON ON from Canada writes: The boy being bullied is a KOREAN from Korea, not a Chinese, can these people tell the differance between KOREAN, CHINESE and JAPANESE ??.

    Not to mention that probably a dozen or so much more creative racial slurs for each of those groups exist, as they do for any group. The fact that this bully got away with it as long as he did clearly shows he's either got some amazing luck on his side, or this was the most heavy-handed use of 'zero-tolerance' that can happen.

    The fact that he's stupid enough to openly attack a kid he's bullying IN CLASS and not only not get his ethnicity right, but to fail at the one thing that racist idiots are known for, racial slurs, speaks volumes. There's no way it all went his way unless something or someone was pulling for him. He's clearly too stupid to plan this.
  101. Pie Boy from Vancouver, Canada writes: Brilliant courageous stuff by the Keswick Black Belt and his Keswick schoolmates! Please don't stop standing up for yourselves and for what is right. As you can see from the posts, so many Canadians stand behind you.

    As for the charges against the Keswick Black Belt, its the police, not the bully or his family who are responsible for laying charges. Kudos to the Keswick high school students for standing behind their classmate and bringing this to national attention. Time now for the police to do what is right.
  102. Kevin Sutton from Canada writes: That the school or the police would target the child who defended himself from an assault is completely and obviously backwards. I know it contravenes the law, and it probably also contravenes the rules of the school. Utterly reprehensible.
  103. Mitch hourigan from Canada writes: Along with others here I commend the student body of this school.

    I would encourage the father of this young man to file a human rights complaint forthwith. Past incidents and this current debacle should not be dealt with by the regional police there.
  104. Honda Toyota from Canada writes: I think the Chinese kid should beat the crap out of any white kid that opens his yap. Kung Fu their butts all over the school.

    I hate racism and think that fighting is great way to solve it.
  105. Cameron Boyer from Toronto, Canada writes: This happened in Keswick, Ontario? Who knew they were so backwards up there? I thought this story was from the southern U.S!!!
  106. kevin gauthier from Wasaga Beach, Canada writes: Maybe the writers of this story and this one (http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/620468) should team up
    and engage the real supreme court in this country - that being the court of public opinion!
  107. Another vicious kick right in the face from writes: Cops are just like the media -- literally incapable of getting a situation right.
  108. Justa Browser from Toronto, Canada writes: good on the students of the school who supported their bullied peer. it certainly confirms the contemporary attitude of intolerance to racism. however, the bully's behavior and more concerning, his cousin's remark after the fact, validates the problem is probably deeply rooted (at least for that family). The school and the community as a whole have a greater issue to deal with, if they want to correct this.

    I am a believer that social attitudes of children are significantly formed at home, so if the negative perception of race is passed from one generation to the next, the change will need to start there.
  109. The Moss from Toronto, Canada writes: Dave Leggit: 'Cops are the most racist pigs I have ever come across. Today I have zero cops as friends for I now know that to be a cop is to be a racist. It probably comes from peer pressure but it should exist in our police forces. '

    Wow!!! Its awful to hear that your friends in the force are racist, but please do not go on to say that all cops are racist pigs. Comments like that make you sound very ignorant! Use your head before you post these kind of comments on a public forum!
  110. Fred Gunter from Stillwater, United States writes:

    Listen to all the snotty commentary from urban Torontarians (presumably) having all their prejudices against their 'redneck' north-country cousins confirmed.

    What if it had been a white kid in an inner city Toronto school who punched the lights out an asian or carribean bully.

    Wouldn't even have made the news in the G&M now would it!
  111. Dave M from Canada writes: The only people who should be holding their heads high in Keswick these days are the kid who stuck up for himself and the students who are sticking up for him. This community obviously needs some work if Asian people are routinely targeted for abuse. Where have the police been while all of this has been happening, and local community leaders. I think, at least at hope, this would have been front page news in most Canadian towns a long time ago and local people would have stepped up to stop it.
  112. D K from Canada writes: ' Canadian born liberal-conservative Muslim from Ottawa, Canada writes: PROPAGANDA moronto,

    Get a life. The Caucasian race is all too 'innocent' and full of 'angels' I suppose? '

    Caucasian is not a race. Thanks for letting your ignorance shine through
  113. Joseph Bloggins from Canada writes: That one punch, that one broken nose has far, FAR more impact that all of the so-called and completely useless Human Rights Commissions in Canada put together.
  114. Ground Working from Canada writes: There's nothing like a story about a small, meek Chinese kid who secretly possesses special Martial Arts skills and hears the voices of his elders in the middle of combat to dispel stereotypes about Chinese people.
  115. Ben lomond from Canada writes: Damn conservative vigilante. Violence is NEVER justified. Throw away the key.
  116. Midnight Madness from GTA, Canada writes: did my comment go through?
  117. Dude, where's my Canada? from Canada writes: Kudos to the rallying students. Shame on the police and the school authorities. And a curse on bullies and racists.

    The father is wise and has clearly done a fine job raising a decent Canadian young man.
  118. fuc u from West of Toronto, writes: I am a Canadian Born Asian teacher that works in a community that lacks diversity. I can only say that I find this issue disturbing, and for me asks the question. Does the community WANT the label of a closed society? Although I agree that any student that throws a punch should be suspended, expulsion should not be on the one victimized. Knowing self-defense should mean that you can protect yourself from an assault - which is essentially what this bully was doing. Isn't that hate crime enough for an expulsion of the bully?
  119. N J from Canada writes: Kudos to the kids for standing up and speaking out, and kudos to the teen who defended himself. I don't advocate violence generally, but in this situation he appears to have been thoughtful & hit his attacker only when it was the last option to stop the abuse. I hope this article will make others think about the accepted levels of prejudice in their own lives. I've worked as a civil servant for nearly ten years (in Vancouver & Toronto) and at least twice a week hear clients remark about their 'rights' as 'real Canadians' (ie white Canadians). What disgusts me even more is the conspiratorial tone they use- they assume that because I'm white I will agree with their racist comments. I've heard people who I thought were totally reasonable, intelligent friends one day say in hushed tones 'well, you know those (insert ethnic group / sexuality / gender / etc)- they're all like (insert stereotype)'. We're all guilty of sometimes falling prey to stereotypes & prejudiced thinking, often out of ignorance. It's important that we educate ourselves about different cultures & backgrounds, and be aware of when we judge a person not by their individual attributes but by some broad & inconsequential fact like skin colour. Following this path doesn't just help prevent bigotry- it also broadens our horizons & makes life a lot more interesting!
  120. Maplebird - from Canada writes: A couple of things to bear in mind, here: this young Koreaan-Canadian man should be applauded for his restraint. He could have shown up at school with a gun. Instead, he chose to respond to a bully's threats and physical violence by fighting back with his weaker hand - and this is after enduring what probably amounts to months of ill-treatment at the hands of his bully. Not that I condone violence, but sometimes it is necessary to stand and face a bully - especially when those around you are busy doing nothing to help you. The bully should have known that he might get his comeuppance if he kept shooting his mouth off for long enough. And the Crown should back off and drop all charges, or it should charge the person who started the fight. As far as I'm concerned, the students in the school who stood up for this young man are right and just in their cause. They have shown far better judgement and character than the adults have. The adults (and the kids who did not stand up for this young man) should sit up, take notice, and change their ways. Oh, and one more comment about the nature of racism - just like an illness knows no colour, shape or size, racism can be found in people of all backgrounds. But then there are great hearts and minds to be found everywhere, and that gives me comfort and hope. I hope everyone will congratulate and support the students who had the guts to put their beliefs forward.
  121. D L from Canada writes: Something like this happened to me in elementary school. I was repeatedly harrassed, verbally and physically, every recess, on my way to school and on my way home, by a small band of thugs. Members of the school community knew, my friends and classmates knew. No-one stopped them. No-one responded to my distress, fear to the point of vomiting, and physical signs of fight. I learned to run, avoid, hide. Finally, one day at recess I struck back and broke the ring-leaders nose. I also broke the large knuckle in my fist.

    My harassers reported me. I was suspended, strapped, and treated like a criminal by the teachers.

    I'm an adult now. But I still see this all around me, and it's still blamed on the girl when boys physically and sexually harass them. It's the feminine version of racial hatred.
  122. m v from Mississauga, Canada writes: Yes the white kid was racist and the cops should have charged him too if they are also charging the asian kid. No argument from me there. What bothers me is how many people on this forum use generalizations about how racist white people are to condemn the 15 year old kid. When you post these racist generalizations about white people you are behaving just the same as these white racists you are trying to condemn. There are racists in every race. I have seen racism from blacks, asians muslims and whites. All small town people are not racist either. Lets put this in perspective. This was one white idiot acting as a racist. The fact that the town rallied around the asian kid shows that overall most of them are inherently good and not racists. If most of them were racist then they would not have supported the kid and this this story would have never made it into the Globe.
  123. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: This is a hate crime, and should be judged by the Ontario Human Rights Commission.
  124. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: Compensation should be given the Chinese student who punched the white kid.
  125. Matthew Parsons from Canada writes: If there is African Canadians, Indo Canadians, Asisan Canadians and the such, dies that mean I'm a European Canadian? Why do we never hear that title? Whatever happened to just being Canadian?
  126. Curmudgeon 99 from Surrey, BC, Canada writes: God bless the children. I for one am delighted that they demonstrate the true Canadian concern with fairness and justice. It is too bad that our PM can't understand the concepts when it comes to other 'colored' citizens like Arar and Khadre an the other poor guy they've marooned in our Embassy.
    As an analogy I prefer to cast the participants as Harper and Iggy at the next election.

    Lessons for Iggy:

    1. You only have to hit him good one time.
    2. Use your left hand.
    3. Aim at his nose.
    4. Hit him first and hit him hard.
    5. Stand back.
    6. Watch him stumble around blinded by tears and snot,
    his eyes turning into great purple plums with a red liner.

    Somehow I have the feeling that the Canadian electorate would love it. They might just turn out in massive numbers to support himas did this boys' fellow students.

    My compliments to the Asian father. He's done a good job and he's raised a son he can be proud of. If he decides to move, he has my invitation and welcome to be my neighbour.
    We need more citizens like him.
  127. Michael Banner from Norway writes: Ben Lomond... I must disagree, both at your incinuation that violence and self defence are the same & that 'conservative' mindset of 'strike first before being striked at', is the same thing that this boy has just experianced.

    I certainly wasn't there, but it sounds like from the 400 students, that this Canadian child, with a Korean background, was justified in his actions.

    You comments Ben Lomond, sound like they come from a strange place of liberal-ignorance... albeit probably not that strange at times. Being liberal doesn't make you smart... but being smart could make you liberal.
  128. Mike G from Canada writes: PROPAGANDA moronto from Canada writes: I am proud to be White. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

    -----

    Of course, anyone can be racist. But you most certainly are. Calling you a racist is a fact.
  129. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: Joseph Blacks, it is a well known fact that blacks are more often the victems of violent crime than whites.

    http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
  130. Zee Ro from Canada writes:
    Hey Folks, Jomo Wanjala is a white guy. He is an imposter who frequently impersonates Africans.

    Please ignore him.

    --
  131. Rain Couver from Canada writes: I think that the students protested was awesome. That proves that in the next ten years, as the students become this town's active members, this little burg will no longer be a stain on the Canadian landscape. The only thing parents and grandparents will be able to do is lament the lost art dueling banjos.
  132. Derry McDonell from Canada writes: Forget the race angle. Hulking bully picks a fight and gets his nose flattened by his intended victim. Isn't that the kind of uplifting story we usually have to pay to see in the movies? Good on ya, kid. You've warmed the hearts of millions who wished they'd done the same.
  133. Greg Boner from Toronto, Canada writes: Racism can run, but it can't hide. Just because the bigots moved North of the city doesn't mean they have thier own country.
    It reminds me of the movie Deliverance. The bigots must adapt to the evolving world or they'll find themselves more and more on the fringe of society.
  134. A Canadian Girl from Canada writes: As a minority born and raised in Canada AND culturally westernized, I've always had to EXPLAIN to people, both minority (especially minorities from other cultures) and to white people why my family and I are not 'culturally Chinese.' The government and its multicultural policies don't seem to understand that Hong Kong Canadians, or at least a certain segment are just this way. I sometimes find myself over-doing the westernized thing, to the point that I'm a hideous caracature of a 1920s debutante to prove something. And that's really unlady-like!
  135. Midnight Madness from GTA, Canada writes: I'm glad the Korean boy stood up for himself and it's a complete injustice for him to have been charged whereas the boy who provoked the whole situation did not. I'm hoping this outcome doesn't remain this way. It's truly unfortunate that we live in a world so full of hate. I taught my daughter at the tender age of two that if we all bleed red, we are all the same. If you're a horrible person, it's just that you are horrible from the inside and not the out. It's easier for those whom are racist and discriminative to blame a colour or ethnic. We live in a world of human beings conveniently utilizing scapegoats to pass the buck and throw the blame upon. If it weren't colour, religion and ethnics against one another I could foresee it being blue eyes hating brown, wide footed people hating narrow footed people...this may sound and seem silly but human beings need someone, something to lay their denial of their hate upon, that simply being themselves. I dream of a world that's united and complacent as one, to cast aside our differences and instead of chastising those differences we in turn celebrate them. Wouldn't that be wonderful.
  136. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Many of you don't realize this but the police operate a lot like our elections.... first past the post wins. In this case, the first to report the crime is considered the victim, especially if there is any physical injuries. The police then have no choice but to lay charges. It is then up to the Crown attorney to decide to move forward or drop the charges. In this particular case, not only was the bully dumb enough to pick on someone who was able to defend themself, he also appears to be dumb enough to broadcast the fact. It was probably the parents of the bully that reported it to the police. They understand how some of the system works and never thought anyone would stand up for the other boy. Looks like dumb is being raised by dumber. Anyway, the important part of the story is that the boy defended himself and his school mates were brave enough to stand up and defend him. Regarding the 'small towns are racist' crap spewing from the high and mighty in the urban centres... When you fix the mess you made in the Jane and Finch area, High Park etc.; when you have your kids, without any adults start, plan and lead the protest; then you can lord it over the small towns. In the mean time, get a life.
  137. Evil Umpire from Canada writes: Similar situation in Sarnia 12 years go, White power goons, aryan nation recruiters start enlisting kids in my high school. Our principals, teachers, media and police force did nothing to stop this, so we did. Result: we were labelled as terrorists for fighting back. The racist recruiters were left to recruit. Also, I was often pulled over in the Sarnia Reserve, for being Indian and driving a nice car. The cops thought i was native, and thus had no business driving a nice car. Truth is i'm of east Indian decent and i was driving my dad's car to my job as a referee/umpire. Indians are Indians I guess, Colon's (Coumbus') blunder being repeated. When you're a light skinned brown guy the cops hassle you cause you could be arab, native, latino... they don't care. Been through this my whole life. I'm sure there are cops that aren't, but I've never met one, cause they'd have no reason to stop me for anything. I'ts all the racist ones that i seem to bump into all the time growing up.
  138. Louise W from Canada writes: Derry McDonell from Canada writes: Forget the race angle. Hulking bully picks a fight and gets his nose flattened by his intended victim. Isn't that the kind of uplifting story we usually have to pay to see in the movies? Good on ya, kid. You've warmed the hearts of millions who wished they'd done the same.

    Yes, Derry - very uplifting - until the second scene - when the police charge the victim!!
  139. Joe InOntario from Canada writes: Globe Moderators: How can you possibly NOT see through 'jomo''s act? You're truly not that dim are you?

    Or are you so desperate to try to create controversy that you will actively - and repeatedly - encourage a troll?
  140. Stephen Graham from Kitchener, Canada writes: The principal of this school should be fired and this Chinese kid should be reinstated immediately. It seems clear the white kid was the instigator and aggressor in this incident. We think we've come so far as a society and then we hear about garbage like this. It makes me ill.
  141. max from edmonton from Canada writes: A Canadian Girl from Canada writes: As a minority born and raised in Canada AND culturally westernized, I've always had to EXPLAIN to people, both minority (especially minorities from other cultures) and to white people why my family and I are not 'culturally Chinese.' The government and its multicultural policies don't seem to understand that Hong Kong Canadians, or at least a certain segment are just this way. I sometimes find myself over-doing the westernized thing, to the point that I'm a hideous caracature of a 1920s debutante to prove something. And that's really unlady-like!
    ********************************************************
    My wife is Chinese but borne and raised in North America. She is OFTEN discriminated against by the Chinese community for not being Chinese enough. They can be brutal and cruel.

    I have never witnessed, or heard her complain that she was the subject of racism by any race other than Chinese.

    Kudos to the young man in the article. Charges need to be dropped.
  142. The Natrix from Toronto, Canada writes: You know, its funny, many Canadians, esp around the major cities think of Canada as this nice, inclusive, always helpful country to others and around the world, that is far ahead and above the US.

    But you go outside of the major cities, discrimmination, racism, xenophobia is alive and well. Even getting stared at in a Tim Hortons is common. Gooo Canada!
  143. J M from Calgaristan, Canada writes: The redneck bully should certainly be prosecuted for a hate crime and expelled from the school system permanently.
  144. D F from Canada writes: Tom Wallace from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Small, rural, mostly white. Pretty much sums it up. Ignorant parents teaching smart kids dumb things.

    Tom, your stereotyping is showing. What you just said is no better than blaming asians or blacks or anyone else. I am white, from a rural area. I am neither ignorant nor a racist. I try to exemplify tolerance and teach tolerance to my children. However, sir, you certainly appear to be ignorant and intolerant. Never, never lump everyone together. The actions of the student body totally proved your ignorant comment wrong. Your attitude does nothing to improve the problem, it only polarizes people. You could learn a thing from the boys father and be a little more Canadian yourself.
  145. gale gardner from Canada writes: Obviously the Police did not do a thorough initial investigation! What else is new?
  146. D. Armstrong from London, Canada writes: This happened in a gym class and there were no witnesses? It's time some of those who saw this stepped up and gave an impartial account. In addition, who is the administrator at this school? Are they incompetent? Interviewing everyone and getting the whole story is their job. Our education system is getting worse. Nobody ever gets zero or has a firm deadline for an assignment, and bullies get impunity within the school. Get rid of all the socially progressive school principals and hire some competent people.
  147. _ Rangzin from Canada writes: The white kid must be a well known bully by his fellow students because 400 of them wouldn't have protested otherwise. It amazes me how schools simply ignore bullying or don't even notice and when a victim retaliates they are usually blamed.
    The white kids should be the one charged and expelled.
  148. Howdy Doo-me from Canada writes: Jomo, Jomo, Jomo,

    Kenyan right? Your name I mean. So now I'm supposed to tell you to go back to Kenya, the way you told Gunter to go back to Germany? What's that? You were born here? And so probably was Gunter (or in the US or whatever...). As if it actually mattered.

    I guess you haven't realized that condemning other tools, like Gunter, by acting like a tool yourself only deligitimizes whatever you have to say.

    And Warren Reinhart - geez, man, before you 'clear' up any more misconceptions, you really should learn just a few of the basics about Canadian criminal law. Apart from your goofy and incomplete definitions of assault and battery, the boy was completely entitled to defend himself. You don't have to believe me but you might want to check the Criminal Code sometime.
  149. SL S from Canada writes: The charges against this boy should be dropped since he protected himself in self defence. The school board should be sued by this family for false accusation of their child and for the unwarrented suspension. The expullsion by the school is teetering on possible racial discrimination.
  150. Enough Whining from Canada writes: This is very typical. We are a caucasian family living in a small rural town. Typical middle class. We too were forced to send our son to a school 40 miles away because he was being bullied. I met with the principal no less than 6 times to resolve the issue, but he lacked the courage to confront the parent of the bulliers and the courage to reprimand the bulliers as well.

    Small town schools, school administrators and even the local RCMP are quick to listen to one side of the story and cast judgement. They will often side with the person or parties they fear may respond with some aggression, rather than talking through the situation rationally.

    Not only does this not solve the bullying issue, it compounds the problem by creating resentment towards the school division, school principal and staff and now towards the RCMP. Great way to establish respect and trust in the community.
  151. Chris Michaels from Canada writes: Really good story -- well, except for the typical hurdles of ignorant and blind administrative authorities.

    Personally, in a high school, or almost anywhere, it should be damn-near open-season on anyone who incites through racial baiting. To a fifteen year old boy (...of which, I was one not all that long ago) the threat of taking a physical pounding is a pretty big deterrent. And, the worry of social exclusion maybe even bigger.

    I say there should be some major leniency given to anyone who retaliates against racial slurs. The 'victim' isn't always the one with the broken nose.
  152. Tyler Phillips from writes: What if the bully called him fat, skinny, four-eyes, smelly, pansy, etc.? Is that not as serious as being called 'F**ing Chinese'? The kid isn't even Chinese.

    I've been called a 'F**
    ing American' before while in Europe, and I certainly didn't interpret it as a racial slur.

    People are so quick to call everything racism. I remember being 15, and kids threw all kinds of insults.. why are only comments which appear to be racist given so much weight?
  153. Mrs. T from Canada writes: Very telling in the article is the parental response. I would say the bullied kid's parents are A . Well grounded and involved in their child's life. There is a serious problem in this town that will need to be addressed.

    But I dare say that the 'affirmative action' policies of the late 80s early 90s did nothing to help racism in this country.
  154. Angry West Coast Canuck from Canada writes: I also figured that it would be the person defending themselves who would be charged, and the bully would get away with their actions. Pretty typical for a racist small town really.

    I'm betting the police officers are 'good friends' with the parents of the bully, and that everyone considers the bully to be a 'good kid', so obviously it was the fault of that damn asian kid.

    Surprising to see the other students stand up for what's right though. About time something like that happened, and it's good to see.
  155. King's Knight from Canada writes: Black, white, yellow or purple the lad had every right to nail his aggressor.

    A similar thing happened to a buddy of mine from Hong Kong over 30 years ago and the specimen was dispatched.
  156. Tyler Phillips from writes: SL S from Canada writes: The charges against this boy should be dropped since he protected himself in self defence. The school board should be sued by this family for false accusation of their child and for the unwarrented suspension. The expullsion by the school is teetering on possible racial discrimination.

    A person who was defending himself shouldn't be expelled.. it's as simple as that. What does race have to do with it?
  157. The Lady from Canada writes: Obviously the parents of the Grade 12 student who rallied the other 400 students together, have done him a tremendous favour, by teaching him to do the right thing......And for the 400 some odd students who spoke out...BRAVO to you as well (and your parents).
    I agree with another poster who remarked on how the father of the Asian boy, is also doing the right thing.......among all the good life lessons he has passed along - teaching his son about pride!

    I fail to understand the school's stance. While most Ontario schools have a 'hands off' policy, in which a suspension/cooling off period would be handed down in lieu of the physical attack, Ontario schools (at least ours does) also have a strong policy about verbal abuse and attacks which should have also led to disciplinary action to the student who used the racial slurs and made the first move in the altercation.
    The school administration should have set the tone for the course of action with the students involved and used it to remind students that ANY form of attack would not be tolerated......verbal, physical or otherwise.
    Thankfully the students had the compassion and courage to stand up for their fellow student and friend.
  158. Take an Extra Sweater from Tirana, writes: I had a similar experience 40 years ago in the Toronto school system. I received a racist slur, I yapped back, he swung first, and a fight ensued.

    The principal asked me, 'A eye for an eye, is it'?

    We both got the strap. The system is still run by bloody hypocrites, that is plain.
  159. Bob Loblaw from Canada writes: .

    It is time to hear from the principle and the police
    Why was only one charged with assault and suspended
    when he struck the second punch.

    I would like to hear their explanation.

    .
  160. C D from BC, Canada writes: Its always nice when a bully gets it in the nose. Kudos.
  161. Hunkered down in the land of never ending promises from Canada writes: Well for me the decision is simple. The Korean boy defended himself after he was physically accosted. Just because he has the skill to defend himself more efficiently than the other youth shouldn't be held against him. But seeing that 400 of his 'classmates' walked out in a student body that sees only ten of Asian decent, must mean that a sizeable number of those four hundred are white and so while there is prejudice and bigotry among some whites, it is not exclusive to the white community regardless of what picture the media likes to paint.
    Why not settle the old fashioned way and have the two boys square off in a supervised forum. It is more likely that a fight would not ensue once the two were able to discuss their differences (without parental/school/official(s) interference (beyond being a silent mediator) they'd likely find common ground and some appreciation of the others' feelings and perceptions.
  162. Lake Simcoe from Keswick, ON, Canada writes: I live in Keswick, where this happened, and I really can't beleive some of the comments coming from people on this board. Your comments are no better than the bully in this story.

    Don't assume that people from Keswick are 'inbred' as one poster said, or 'white trash' as another said. It's a very nice, quiet small town. Yes, there are jerks here, but there are jerks everywhere. I've met more racist a****s in the rich areas of Toronto than I ever have met here.

    And don't assume that it's a 'poor' area. It's an area in transition, with old homes,and a lot of new subdivisions as well. But with housing prices almost 50% less than the city, it's worth the drive to the go train. I moved up here 12 years ago from the city, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

    Oh, and to us in the town, most of our problems occur in the summer when the people from the city come for the weekends. It's the yobs from the city that come up, get drunk, create scenes, leave litter, that make it difficult for the 99% of the visitors that are decent.
  163. G S from Toronto, Canada writes: james york from Torontostan, Canada writes: It seems like Keswick has to face the fact that it has Chinese immigrants living with white trash. **************************************************** For all the people that felt the need to put 'white Trash' please explain to me how that comment is different from the comment made to start this issue off. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You wouldn't dare offend calling another ethnic group a racial slur, but yet it is ok to say 'white trash' Another point, to everyone who called this a closed community, define closed community? Is 400 high school students walking out in protest considered a closed community? (check to see in chinatown how many signs are in english, you may consider that a closed community) Any people posting comments or other derogatory statements about this 'white' kid or community, need to check yourselves first, to me you are all spewing the same hate, regardless if you think it is ok because you share the same colour. Anyone else think that this would not be in the media if the 'chinese' kid said 'fu*king white kid'........think about it people, the media is playing us! If were going to go down this path then at the very least lets call a spade a spade.
  164. roy stephenson from Waterloo, Canada writes: It really sounds like the police were in a hurry to get their free coffee. If they had spent the time we pay them for to get to the bottom of this, they wouldn't look so incompetent now in the national media.
  165. Island Man from Victoria from Canada writes: This whole town is freakin crazy when the police charge the one that was attacked and defended himself...Bully's need to be exposed and charged. It does not help when the PM of Canada shows his example that his Bully tactics as an acceptable mode of operation. Leadership on issues like racism and bullying needs to come from the top and sadly we don't have that.
  166. Tim Burns from Calgary, Canada writes: The young man recently convicted of murder in the Creba case apparently had attended 4 different high schools, being transferred from one to another due to violent behavior. Its funny how when a white person 'allegedly' makes a racial slur, violence is okey. When a person of color commits a violent act, its becasue of society, or evil white culture, or what ever.
  167. Tyler Phillips from writes: Island Man from Victoria from Canada writes: This whole town is freakin crazy when the police charge the one that was attacked and defended himself..

    Yeah, that comment makes a lot of sense.

    I guess if the police make a decision in Victoria, it perfectly represents your views because you happen to live there? Ridiculous.
  168. Tim Burns from Calgary, Canada writes: Curmudgeon 99 from Surrey, BC, Canada writes: God bless the children. I for one am delighted that they demonstrate the true Canadian concern with fairness and justice. It is too bad that our PM can't understand the concepts when it comes to other 'colored' citizens like Arar and Khadre an the other poor guy they've marooned in our Embassy'
    You forgot to mention Aziga, you know, the guy who infected 12 woman with HIV, you let enough 3rd world people into Canada, and Canada becomes a ................
  169. Matthew McGarvey from Ottawa, Canada writes: Harry Rickard from Timmins, Canada writes: Good story about students doing the right thing... The same (racial slurs, punches, kickings etc...) happens to native students all the time. But we will never hear a story about whites rallying around the native student, never have, never will. Why is that I wonder.

    Okay, Harry, I'll tell you a small one. When I was in about grade 4, a native kid with the first name Terry moved to town. He was tall, smart, quiet, and nice. I became school friends with him since I'd bypassed grade 3 and we were both kind of outsiders in grade 4. I was small, usually smallest in the class, although rarely really picked on.

    Kids would taunt Terry - 'Terry the fairy' was the usual one. He let it slide. But one nasty little prick, I forget his name, was in his face, Terry was annoyed but restrained, then the prick added a racist epithet the particulars of which escape me. A typical slur against natives is all I recall. Terry punched him once square in the nose and decked him. We walked away.

    Teachers attending to the nasty kid heard it was Terry, he gets sent to the principal. Principal calls me in to describe what happened, I told him and strongly supported Terry's side. Didn't see Terry until the end of the day.

    I asked him what happened. He said the principal told him he had to give him a detention for punching, but he really didn't blame him for doing it. Basically, Terry did his day's work in the principal's office; no big lecture or moral righteousness, just a kind of pragmatism - even provoked punches have to have consequences. Terry was okay with that and felt supported by the principal and me.

    Note, this was NOT self-defence as described in this story, and I'm not trying to equate it. But some people stood up for natives being bullied; I was too small to do it physically, but I did what I could. As soon as we assume everyone in a group thinks a certain way, the bad stuff happens.
  170. a jewish man from United States writes:
    funny how the G&M goes to BIG LENGTHS to prevent people from commenting on jews, but the authorities in toronto look the other way when someone is the victim of a racial slur... and press charges against the victim to boot, to add insult to injury

    canada is a joke of a country
  171. RAZA BUTT from Ajax, Canada writes: 90% Report Card and Black Belt - Fine & Classy. Bully got exactly what he deservesed.
  172. Joseph Bloggins from Canada writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto, says 'Joseph Blacks, it is a well known fact that blacks are more often the victems of violent crime than whites.'

    Well maybe.....but they are victims of violent crime perpetuated by blacks.

    You should seek help for your delusions. Oh....and also, the comments are not just meant for you. But I certainly do understand how raving leftist lunatics like yourself don't believe anyone with opinions other than yours should be allowed to voice them. Your racist twerp.
  173. a jewish man from United States writes:
    and obviously, the asian student's biggest mistake was not in punching the bully out... his mistake was in punching the bully out, and getting caught

    only in canada can you be a victim of a hate crime with a racial slur, and get charges pressed on you as a result of having your dignity violated...

    the canadian justice system is no different from what you see in a country like iran
  174. Tyler Phillips from writes: Tom Wallace from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Small, rural, mostly white. Pretty much sums it up. Ignorant parents teaching smart kids dumb things.

    Wow what a racist comment. Why is it ok to make racial slurs about whites and yet not about other races?
  175. The Trudeau Salute from Canada writes: A tremendous act on the part of the students. Don't back down.
    Now a question for Ontario's Minister of Education: what kind of g*d*md zoo are you running? Why are your Principals so incredibly unaware of the correct, professional response to bullying? Do 5 minutes of research on bullying in schools.
    It isn't just the Principal and their school board that needs to be fired. The Minster has some serious explaining to do. I hope someone with leverage ensures we get exactly that.
    Never mind the local intolerance as an excuse. Your job is to overcome that.
  176. Dani Ho from Toronto, ON, Canada writes: It's sad to see that us Canadians living in the 21st century still not colour blind. Our society of racial tolerance / multiculturalism is just a facade. I realize many people will have some sort of subconscious stereotyping but I'm not sure what the 'bully' has against the Asian classmate. Speaks English with an accent? Looks different than his peers? I could never understand what makes people hate if they've never done anything to you or your family.

    I suppose in that neck of the woods, if the Asian person isn't in the restaurant or laundomat taking orders from the 'locals' (aka non-minorities), then something would have to be done about it -- ie keep 'them' in their place.

    PS Kudos to the student body and their statement against racism. I do have some hope our future leaders will share such sentiments.
  177. Richard Roskell from Naramata, Canada writes:

    As a white parent of an adopted Korean child living in a small town in Canada, I can well understand what he's going through. Hang in there, dude- and take strength and courage (not that you seem in big need of it) from the outpouring of support from your school and community.

    To the bigots in Keswick, Ontario- you are a disgrace to our country.
  178. D F from Canada writes: Not that I'm agreeing with the Police charging the apparent victim but it might have gone down something like this. Because a punch was thrown, the student has a right to charge the other. I would assume the boy who broke the other's nose could also have the bully charged if he chose to. (I might be wrong). I would assume, because a nose actually got broken, (considered to be somewhat significant damage) it may have had something to do with it. Let's face it, someone's nose gushing blood makes for good sympathy, at least initially, until the whole story comes out. I can just hear the bully's side of the story now... 'I was just bugging him a bit and all of a sudden he got all mad and sucker punched me. He's a black belt man. I didn't do nutin' honest.'

    However, until the whole story comes out on all sides, it's all really just conjecture. As much as I disagree with fighting, I must say, at least from the article, I'd say the bullied boy did the right thing given the circumstances. I hope the rest of the students stay alert and don't let complacency allow the bully(ies) to gain ground again.
  179. Michael Butler from Canada writes: It's up to the AG's office to screen the charge and they will only prosecute if it's in the public interest and there's a reasonable likelihood of success.

    If the reported facts are true, the real tragedy/crime will occur if the AG decides to prosecute the kid who was bullied and fought back. Then we will know there is systematic racism in this country
  180. Elmo Harris from Niagara, Canada writes: Dave Leggit from Montreal, Canada, Canada writes: For those asking why the cops didn't arrest the bully too, I have this thought.
    I have never met more hateful, racist and uncompromising people than police officers.

    Global Citizen from Canada writes: Absolutely, in my 30 years in Canada most of the cops I have encountered are rude and absolute racist, this is from my own personal experience. Even in a simple traffic case, only the White will be listened to even if that person did the wrong. This happened with most of my family and circle of friends.
    ---

    You are both right. Problems with our justice system can be traced back to the police in this country. Truth be known they are now accountable only to themselves. The government, federal, provincial, or regional, are only kidding themselves if they think otherwise. Right now, the police are out of control and the government and the courts are too frightened to do anything about it. The problem is beyond the Blue Wall now. It has to do with the type of person that gravitates to that kind of work. Given the cops I know and have known, it is no accident that only the Asian kid was charged. White supremacy is alive and well in this country.
  181. M Irwin from New West, Canada writes: Ignorant rednecks. More brawn than brains.

    Put them all on an island with a big shiny F-250 to fight over 'till the last one standing. And then tell the last one it's a hybrid.
  182. Emilio Garazgos from Kanata, Canada writes: While I haven't read all of the comments posted here, it is interesting to see that all of the comments that I did read appeared to be in support of the Asian kid and all were generally appalled by the actions of the KKKeswick school authorities and town police.

    It of course begs the question as to where the racists and xenophobes are hiding because there is certainly no shortage of their ilk in every community and at every level of the socio-economic strata in Canada.

    Either they don't read the Globe & Mail or they have the good sense to keep quiet .

    I doubt that there is even one Canadian 'of colour' who has not had racial slurs hurled at them by complete strangers.

    I suppose that such behaviour is to be expected in the schoolyard and one has the hope that as those kids grow up and mature, their racist attitudes will change. Unlikely, but the rallying of the students in support of the Asian student does give one hope.

  183. Pierre-Yves P from Canada writes: As a non-caucasian kid I would be scared growing up in Canada today.

    Not because of racism, but because you are just expected to passively get beaten up by every bully around the block without even having a chance to defend yourself.

    That's frightening.

    At age eight I found myfelf the only colored studen in an all-white catholic school. Luckily I was rather tall and strong for my age, and spent the next three months waiting after school and finishing every fight a bully had started during the day.

    I did not win them all, but sure enough I won a holy peace after this exercise, and even some popularity; and the priests did not mind, as long as it was staying out of school.

    What's a kid supposed to do? It's just not fair.
  184. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To a jewish man: Look at the injustices and racism that have and do occur in your own country, you'll find it is no better than in Canada, which according to you makes the US on par with Iran. Thanks for the info...
  185. B Fly from Bobcaygeon, Canada writes: The Korean kid has a black belt, he is considered a weapon.Thats why he was charged, nothing to do with racist cops. He should not have stuck the bully, only disabled him. He could have easily killed this bully with a blow to the head. The cops know that and thats why he was charged. As for the bully , I'm sure he will be facing charges as well.
  186. Rani Das from Canada writes: As a nonwhite who grew up in a very white town in the seventies, I'm saddened to see so little has changed for nonwhite children in this country. I'm also saddened for the little white boy; at least the Korean boy has good parents, good grades and a strong sense of self-esteem. But the little white kid - to confuse a Korean with a Chinese in the year 2009 tells me his parents don't give a damn about educating him.
  187. p b from Canada writes: Bob Loblaw from Canada writes:
    Wow! 180 comments later, and Bob is the first to notice that 2 punches were thrown! First in mouth, 2nd in nose.
    Are the police that bad that that is not noticed??
    And what are we to think of all the 'No Bullying' ads that are found everywhere these days? Doesn't apply to Keswick?
  188. Ian Cameron from Canada writes: The young man took a stand, his schoolmates have taken a stand. The school administration and police have taken what they consider to be the politically correct stand. It will be interesting to see how this all washes out.
    BTW, My hat is off to the young man and his schoolmates. Well Done!
  189. Elmo Harris from Niagara, Canada writes: jomo wanjala, maybe you should think about how much better your life would be if you were to knock the huge chip off your shoulder. I'm betting that your lot in life has more to do with your attitude and how you approach the world. If you approach everyone as if they are racist then you will end up fulfilling your own prophecy. Racism is often a two way street.

    You could learn a lot of lessons from this kid's dad.
  190. The choices we make decide our place in life from Canada writes: B Fly from Bobcaygeon, Canada writes: The Korean kid has a black belt, he is considered a weapon.Thats why he was charged, nothing to do with racist cops. He should not have stuck the bully, only disabled him. He could have easily killed this bully with a blow to the head. The cops know that and thats why he was charged. As for the bully , I'm sure he will be facing charges as well.

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    You are correct, he could have killed the white kid. That fact that he did not shows restraint. You say that he could have disabled the kid? The fight was over after a punch in the nose. I would say that that qualified as disabling the the punk. IMHO he could has disabled the punk by making sure he never walked again. Now that would be disabling him. He would never bully again. The fact that he only punched the punk in the nose shows restraint. I continue to applaud the Asian kid. Unfortunately the white kid will bully again. He will just make sure his victims are less willing or able to stand up for themselves.
  191. Rudi S from Calgary, Canada writes: Kudos to the student body of Keswick High! You guys are true Canadians, standing up for the underdog!

    Let's have an answer from the Keswick police: why wasn't it the bully who was charged with assault? It sounds like a reasonable amount of force was applied in self-defense to stop the initial aggression, and the action stopped as soon as the bully desisted.

    And let's have an answer from the Keswick High administration: why is an academically-outstanding student being considered for expulsion when it is clear from the circumstances -- indeed, any fool can see -- that he was acting in self-defense?
  192. Mark P from Saint John, NB, Canada writes: brm 2000 from Hogtown, Canada writes: 'I hear the banjos plucking in north, northern Ontario!'

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    Well... that's nice I guess, but here's a heads up----Keswick is in SOUTHERN Ontario.
  193. a jewish man from United States writes: Small, rural, mostly white. Pretty much sums it up. Ignorant parents teaching smart kids dumb things

    people from keswick may complain about the white redneck generalizations being applied to them.. but i think this characterization is TOTALLY correct

    the community's silence on the harassment the asian had to put up with is DEAFENING. not only that, the local police AND the school authorities tacitly approve of the racial slurs directed at the asian through their actions by focusing on the victim

    it really just goes to show you, that the 95% of the people in keswick are a bunch of ignorant racist white trash rednecks
  194. Roger Egert from somewhere, Canada writes: a jewish man from United States writes:

    ..........canada is a joke of a country

    -----------------------------

    Again with the anti-canadianism smears.

    Give it a rest.

    Try.
  195. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To B Fly: Perhaps, but if you are so sure the bully is to be charged as well, why wasn't he before, and why did it take a public protest to get the cops to take a second look... no, there are indeed real issues here about how this case was dealt with by the school and the police, and that can't be so easily glossed over as you imply.
  196. Elmo Harris from Niagara, Canada writes: Given what I know about cops, the bully will eventually end up being a cop. Cops know their own when they smell them. That's why the bully didn't get charged: he was one of their own.
  197. Mark P from Saint John, NB, Canada writes: B Fly from Bobcaygeon, Canada writes: 'The Korean kid has a black belt, he is considered a weapon.Thats why he was charged, nothing to do with racist cops. He should not have stuck the bully, only disabled him. He could have easily killed this bully with a blow to the head. The cops know that and thats why he was charged. As for the bully , I'm sure he will be facing charges as well. '

    ---

    I wish this was witty enough to be sarcasm.
  198. Gern Blandston from Missassausage, Canada writes: Hats off to the Dad. I tell my kids to do the same thing. There will always be bullies no matter how well the school system educates the students and parents. Better the bully with the cracked honker then the asian kid.
  199. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To The choices and B Fly: Yes, the bullied kid's blow could be lethal, but one also needs to realize that any blow to the head can be lethal, so the blow from the bully was also just as potentially lethal...
  200. AddingMy Voice from Vancouver, Canada writes: Wow, I am so impressed with the fellow students, hard to slam the entire town when they have students sticking up for the kid defending himself. I wonder who the principal and police are related to? Obviously not the recent immigrant.
  201. Emilio Garazgos from Kanata, Canada writes: Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Many of you don't realize this but the police operate a lot like our elections.... first past the post wins. In this case, the first to report the crime is considered the victim, especially if there is any physical injuries. The police then have no choice but to lay charges.=======

    Thanks CP for reminding us. I suppose that I too am guilty of jumping onto the bandwagon created by this story and perhaps unfairly labelled Keswick.

    I remember an incident from my youth where I had gone to a bar in Ingersoll ON to see some friends who were performing there that weekend.

    I stepped out for some fresh air and encountered four people beating on one person. I said to the four bullies 'Don't do that!' whereupon they turned their attention on me, but unlike their former victim, I fought back.

    Later that evening, on the way home, those same rednecks started chasing our vehicle and tried to run us off of the road.

    The two women in my vehicle were terrified.

    We pulled over into a driveway to prevent an accident and those drunken clowns pulled up behind us and began jumping on/banging on my (new that week) vehicle. The one on the hood ripped the windshield wipers off.

    The women were freaking at that point and just wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible.

    I put the vehicle in reverse, bumped their car out of the way and made an escape.

    To my surprise, I was pulled over by the police at the edge of town, taken back to the station and put into a cell. Apparently the bullies had filed a complaint against me.

    The police knew the bullies who had a history with them and fully believed our version of the evening's events but they still had to follow up on the bullies' complaints.

  202. Toast And coffee from Somewhere, Canada writes: Rudi S from Calagary has it right. The 400 kids who are protesting are to be commended. The police and the school administration on the other hand, have some explaining to do.

    How does the Asian straight 'A' student ( I'll wager he was also smaller) defending himself find himself expelled and charged with assault? Was it a misunderstanding of the facts or were the school administration and the police taking the easy way out. There may be some racial accusations leveled at them too.
  203. G S from Toronto, Canada writes: a jewish man from United States writes: Small, rural, mostly white. Pretty much sums it up. Ignorant parents teaching smart kids dumb things

    people from keswick may complain about the white redneck generalizations being applied to them.. but i think this characterization is TOTALLY correct

    the community's silence on the harassment the asian had to put up with is DEAFENING. not only that, the local police AND the school authorities tacitly approve of the racial slurs directed at the asian through their actions by focusing on the victim

    it really just goes to show you, that the 95% of the people in keswick are a bunch of ignorant racist white trash rednecks
    *************************************************

    Being Jewish and from the US.........Maybe should give a little more respect to Canada, seeing as the US and Isreal are just great examples of peace and justice for the world!
  204. Basser Basser from Canada writes: I am a white guy. I say to the Chinese kid who faught back... Good for you. We don,t need this trash. Thump em good. Sometimes with all the Politically Correct BS out there, you still need to just thump the bully. Trouble is bullies are usually cowards and cowards come to a fight with a weapon, because they can't handle themselves any other way ( including being brave enough to step back and realize they are the problem). Nice town there keswick
  205. va donc chier from Canada writes: my brother, a professional engineer, got a job in simcoe a few years back. His skin is white, but his name is french. That was enough of a difference for ADULT, EDUCATED bigots of that town to mock his heritage and treat him like carp. Bunch of inbred loyalist jerks.
  206. K M from Canada writes: You need to look a bit farther back in history and a bit more recent.

    I guess it's white people who did all the killing in Sudan, Rawanda....

    and many African and Aboriginal tribes were systematically wiped out by their neighbours long before the white man arrived...

    sad that you would rather repeat history than learn from it...
  207. Hydrogen Bob from Canada writes: An Asian student, 90% average is a victim of racism and physical assault. When he defends himself from an assault (a human right) he is charged by the police and faces expulsion from his school. Where is Kathleen Wynne, the Minister of Education? Where is the Ontario Human Rights Commission?
  208. Pierre Frenette from Ottawa, Canada writes: The fact in all of this is : The police won't pick sides, they have proof with the broken nose, self defence is not applicable.
    The justice system doesn't want the Judge to have to decide who's to blame, so basically just do nothing, and turn the other cheek.
  209. Hydrogen Bob from Toronto, Canada writes: Posters picking on Keswick are not being fair. 400 kids protested on behalf of the victim, a very commendable action, and once again proof that today's kids are all right.
  210. trying to make sense from Canada writes:

    First of all, I want to repeat'sticks and stones'. I was called names all the time growing up.Did it bother me? Ya,but it taught me not to care what you say about me now.

    Second,it seems little more than a case of 'boys being boys' at that age.

    Bully got what he had coming,and the other kid has a whole new reputation.That is what growing up is all about.Feel good story all around.
  211. Global Citizen from Canada writes: BRAMPTON ON from Canada writes: The boy being bullied is a KOREAN from Korea, not a Chinese, can these people tell the differance between KOREAN, CHINESE and JAPANESE ??.

    SO it would have been OK if the victim were CHINESE?

    Are you nuts? Obviously you do not have rational thinking.
  212. Panta Rei from Albania writes: Info : Small towns in Ontario are extremely racist , not only against differnt colours also if you have a slight accent you are out. The majority of the people living in this town have no clue about anything except guns, junk cars and how much better they are than anybody else. No wonder that immigrants do not move to small towns and stay in big cities. It is sad becouse the majority of them are nothing else than descendets of immigrants. I seen a case when a nephew was hating his grandfather becouse the granpa was an immigrant .
  213. Jean Baillargeon from Toronto, Canada writes: Pierre Frenette from Ottawa, Canada writes:

    Then why should we call it the 'justice' system? It should protect victims of racism and hold bullies accountable for their actions.

    Is all the anti-bullying talk in our schools just talk?

    So I'm another white guy saying 'congratulations kid for standing up for yourself, and for dignity and respect'. But it's wrong for the system to let bullied kids look after themselves. People who are vulnerable to racism need protection.

    And some folks out there need education.
  214. Wally Wally from Canada writes: Ah to be back in the days when the bullies would eventually get their lights knocked out and life would move on....Now everyone gets involved.
    Congrats to the young man for sticking it to the bully. Nice self control too. Sounds like he could have annihilated the chump. Also nice to see no weapons.
  215. J. Kenneth Yurchuk from Toronto, Canada writes: No need to slag Keswick folks. The 400 kids who walked out in support of the Asian boy are excellent evidence that the Parents there are doing a fine job of raising their kids. (with a few obvious exceptions)

    I expect things are getting a little warm in the principal's office and down at the local cop shop though. ;-)
  216. Joe Joe from Montreal, Canada writes: It appears the parents/adults can learn a lot from their children.
  217. Captain Canada from Sheeptrack, SK, Canada writes: Keswick for some reason is about as redneck as you will find in Canada. Bigots are found in every community but Keswick is one town where I have seen a lot of intolerance toward visible (such as race) and invisible (such as sexual orientation) minorities. It is encouraging that the young people in the local high school have taken action to call for fairness and justice. I applaud their courage.
  218. Window Pane from Canada writes: If this report is 100% accurate, it makes me embarrassed to be a Canadian.
    If it is 100% accurate, it also makes me feel proud that the students in the school were wise enough and mature enough to walk out in support of this young Asian immigrant. When are the rest of us going to grow up?
    May the rest of us 'Canadians' throw our support behind him and his family as they go through this very tough uphill battle.
    WWJD?
  219. mrk . from Toronto, Canada writes: Much respect is due to this individual for his action. Keswick is a beautiful town but in instances such as these it is made to appear more like a hovel of ignorance and hatred. On occasion people of non-Caucasian background will encounter there certain groups of its citizens who can be persuaded to conduct themselves in a respectful manner through nothing short of physical force. Break their bones whenever the opportunity to do so presents itself and these individuals will be forced to comply with the human rights laws which exist in this country. In spite of what some of its citizens may believe to the contrary, Keswick isn't some country within Canada in which xenophobes can expect to conduct themselves in a violent way as a means of expelling non-Caucasians. Their racism is the sh*t of fascism, and if they intend to compromise the cultural integrity of this country they should be prepared to suffer the consequences.
  220. trying to make sense from Canada writes:

    I see that there are many racists on this board posting about 'white trash'from Ont.

    I am not yet convince that this is a clear cut case of racism.Has this ever picked on other students(white)?

    Kids call each other names all the time and the persons color is an easy mark.What if had called him a 'cake eater' then punched him?
    Would that be better or worse?

    Or this a case of racism simply because of the kids race?

    Again,good on sticking up for yourself.
  221. John McEnroe from Canada, Canada writes: To: b e from owen sound, why would you be ashamed to be Canadian when hundreds of the other students from the school protested on behalf of the bullied boy? To me, that is a fantastic sign that most reasonable Canadians not only disagreed with the discrimination, but they also went a step further to speak up loudly against it. While the repeating discrimination is shameful, the response by these students is pure and simple inspirational. Right on Keswick!!!
  222. Titus Cheeks from London, Canada writes: When the Boomers were kids, countless incidents such as these were solved on the schoolyard, without intervention from adults. It could be argued the Boomers turned out ok.
    If anyone should be moving it should be the bully, not the victim. Nice to see the student body rally behind him. Hopefully that sends the message to the bully and his family.
  223. Nom De Plume from Victoria, Canada writes: He should have given the nasty white kid the full Chuck Norris treatment in my opinion - maybe broken an arm to go with the nose just for good measure. I remember when we were young and the only answer was to let the bully know in no uncertain terms that you would fight back hard. If the bullies know they can get their asses kicked by a competent opponent they will back off and maybe go and pull the wings off of flies or whatever else they do in their spare time. Kudos to the self defender !
  224. Spencer C from Canada writes: Good for this young boy for standing up for him elf and good for his classmates for proving that adults don't always know what's right.

    The bully should be the one charged and threatened with suspension.
  225. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: very nice - i just wrote a nice article to calm this nasty blog and The G&M won't post it. But they will allow all this nasty name calling go on.

    You have some nerve. creating divide amongst people just to sell an article.
  226. Rob Gilgan from Canada writes: Time to out the bully's family - teach them Canadian values.
  227. chris L from Quebec City, Canada writes: I remember an event that happened some 20 years ago in a small rural community in Alberta, where a group of local thugs took on a couple of skinny Asian cousins they assumed were Chinese, after some disagreement in a pub. Bad idea ! Although largely outnumbered, the Asians managed to beat the blinding aurora out of their assailants.
    One official correctly commented that, had those Asians been Chinese, they would have, more than likely, walked away from confrontation at all cost. As it turned out, the men picked-on were, if I remember well, new Cambodian immigrants, fully trained in martial-arts, fresh out of a war-torn country, and pretty quick to defend themselves.
    The point I'm trying to make is: be careful, you thugs out there, tings ain't always wot dey seem to be.

    On the other hand, the Keswick High School students did the Keswick community extremely proud. Their decisive action attest to a level of maturity beyond their years, and one would be hard-pressed to find likewise in many so-called `more enlightened' urban schools.
  228. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: very nice - i just wrote a nice article to calm this nasty blog, and The G&M won't post it. But they will allow all this nasty name calling go on.

    You have some nerve. creating divide amongst people just to sell an article.

    Anyone of you who even use the word racism, is most likely a fool.
  229. Alexandra N. from Canada writes: I am SOooo proud of those 400 kids!
  230. Richard Hawrelak from Sarnia, Canada writes: The Korean father has taught his son very well. They both understands that being a 'Black Belt' is like putting a lethal weapon into your hands. One chop it could be lights out. Hence, the street wise father has warned his son only to protect himself in self defense and to only use his weaker hand when striking back. Smart kid. The bully is lucky he only received a broken nose. His lost pride probably hurts more.

    Congratulations to the students who protested in support. Keep the heat on the bungling school administrators.
  231. joeman 67 from Kamloops, Canada writes: 1) Kudos to the kid for standing up to the bully. Being bullied - words - is more often than not - more traumatizing for the victim than physical assault.

    2) Kids vs. adults - looks like the adult powers-that-be have a lot of mud on their faces (deservedly so), and the students at the school let us know something about their generation as a whole. Maybe there's a lot more hope than we would have thought.
  232. donna smith from manitoba, Canada writes: Hats off to this boy's fellow students, but I would feel a lot better about Keswick if there were a lot of adults doing the same. This incident and obviously many more in this community does not speak well for its citizens. We're watching you, Keswick.
  233. Phil Mendelsohn from Canada writes: I grew up in the States, and am always surprised by how indignant Canadians will be over an incident like this - provided the person discriminated against isn't First Nations. How would everyone feel if the Asian family were Aboriginal?
  234. Fraser Sullivan from Toronto, Canada writes: Glad you kept the bad words in to show the context. Good on the kid for self-defending rather than heading home, depressed, and becoming another teen suicide because this is the type of crap that leads to that. Even better is the self-rallying of the students to show their support. A very brave act at such a young age - and obviously far more courageous than the principal was able to muster because there should have been an immediate emergency assembly the following morning.
  235. Hockey Guy from Ottawa, Canada writes: To r Bartachoke: The G& M doesn't have staff reading each post in these semi-moderated blogs, they do however have a word checker, so if you use a 'magic' word on their not allowed list, bingo, no post.
  236. Misery No one from Toronto, Canada writes: somebody strikes you strike fast.
  237. Jesse Winger from Calgary, Canada writes: The healthy response of the student body at the asians high school shows that the community should not be labelled as a rascist backwash.

    Keswick has some rascists, so does Claresholm AB and Vancouver BC and New Glasgow NS. Point is: it is a problem in all parts of Canada. Let's all be vigilant and call it when we see it and not let it proliferate is my suggestion.

    Cheers
  238. justice peace from Canada writes: Check out ,Bully Online,and No Bully For Me, when the TARGET reacts to the BULLY ,the BULLY presents himself as the VICTIM this is SOCIOPATHIC behavior bullies run to the teacher the police or the boss CRYING AND LYING using abusing authority as a weapon against the TARGET. BULLING happens everywhere at schools at work at home. It is up to everyone to identify bulling and to stand together against it. Also take up a martial art.
  239. stephen wight from Canada writes: i actually live in keswick and for the people that keep calling us white trash could stop at any time because there are select few that are racist in keswick and there are select few where all of you live that are racist so is it really a smart thing to be labelling all of us white trash just because when there is a white kid that is racist they get put on the news and think of how embarrising it would be to be the white kid out of all of this having all of the comments on hear agianst you well just to let you know they both apoliged to each other so if they can forgive each other why cant everyone in the world just let it go
  240. John Smith from Canada writes: In the 60's , 70's , fights like this happened all the time and nobody got charged ,no police were called .. What a sissy country Canada is now .. Yes it was called ''boys will be boys '' like a hockey fight ,forget it ..
  241. Serenity Now from Canada writes: I would suggest they leave white trash keswick, that's the solution.
  242. B St from St. John's, Canada writes: I agree that there probably is an element of racism, and outright bullying here. However, I'm not sure that an incident of schoolyard fighting really warrants police intervention. Good on the Korean boy for standing up for himself - the bully was lucky he didn't take a worse beating. In my high school days, the victim of a bully, who finally decided to stand up for himself, usually ended the problem. Bullies prey on the weak - once the victim demonstrates that they're not weak, the bully often goes away. A schoolyard fight was usually broken up by classmates or teachers, and more often that not, the combatants slapped each other on the shoulder and considered the deal done.

    That's not to say that we don't have to provide education to eliminate racism and bullying, but I'm not sure that this particular incident warrants charges by the police - certainly not to the victim. If the event was the result of a history of escalating violence by the bully, there may be grounds to charge the bully, but really, do we always have to go to such extremes these days?
  243. BERNARD EASTMAN from toronto, Canada writes: It is clear that the behaviour of the SCHOOL AUTHORITIES and the POLICE, were in themselves RACIST. This serves to illustrate how deeply rooted the problem is, previously all white rural and small town communities.
  244. stephen wight from Canada writes: keswick is not white trash far from white trash fights happen all the time you should leave it up to the two fighting the office and there parents why get it put on the news and why do people need to comment on others take the log out of you own eye before worrying about the twig in someone elses
  245. Guitar Player from Vancouver, Canada writes: I've addressed this issue personally before, as a former teacher, lawyer, martial arts practitioner and parent. Years ago, my son (who'd had considerable martial arts training) defended himself against a schoolyard bully. The school wanted to suspend him, even though the administration admitted the incident was not his fault. The attacker was an older, larger student from a higher grade. They cited school and district rules that called for the suspension of anyone who threw a punch, even in self-defense. I pointed out to the principal that regardless of school and district rules, security of the person is guaranteed in the Charter, and the right to self-defense is enshrined in the Criminal Code. One of these is the supreme law of the land, and both are federal statutes in areas that spill over into provincial jurisdictions, clearly superseding provincial or local laws, bylaws and rules. I also pointed out that since we were talking about minors, if the school's rules were not merely in contravention of the Charter and other federal statutes, but also had the effect of denying students the right to defend themselves, then (in my view) the school was assuming a legal 'absolute liability' to ensure the safety of all students -- in which case, I was prepared to sue the school and the district for enacting rules that were 'ultra vires' their authority, and for exposing my son to an attack that was sufficiently severe as to require him to defend himself. Under their rules, that was THEIR job, not his. The principal turned the color of classroom paste and noted that he'd attended a workshop on bullying and violence the week before, with hundreds of attendees, police, etc. -- and nobody had raised the issue of self-defense. At the end of it all, my son received a formal apology in writing from the administration. End of story.
  246. S Leung from Vancouver, Canada writes: It's really bad that all it takes is a few bad apples to spoil the barrel. That bully and his family are winners (not). His older cousin is also a loser because it never occurred to the older one that the younger one instigated the fight. Sorry, but the younger one got exactly what he deserved. The way they're going, they'll likely either end up dead or in jail one of these days.
  247. skip towne from Canada writes: Shaky Lady from Guelph wrote: 'And what colour would you be Mr. Toast?'

    Um, you're on shaky ground here, Lady. Perhaps the news hasn't reached Guelph, but racial profiling died with Mackenzie King. Evidently, pockets of intolerance still exist in our country's schools and police forces, so there's always the chance that someday you may encounter a minority cop brandishing a taser with 'Shaky Lady' inscribed on it. But wouldn't it be wiser to start living your life as part of the solution instead of as part of the problem?
  248. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: You do not even know the truth of the situation and yet you condemn small rural communities as hill billies. This is very wrong.

    This not good. - This article has people say very rude and ignorant things.

    Please. do the research then make your decision. It is very clear that the community is not ignorant and racist as the 300 children in the school protested actions in favour of the Child with the martial arts back ground.
  249. Kevin O'Neill from scarborough, Canada writes: This angers me to no end, and we wonder why bullying continues today. It is very sad to think self defense is a crime in Canada. Have we turned into the U.S?
    Good on the people that spoke up against racism! Racism can not be tolerated in any way. I truely hope this is settled in the correct manner, and the charges are dropped completely against the victim and laid upon the bully. May the Asian family remain steadfast and resolute in knowing what they have done is the correct path to take!
  250. Mike G from Canada writes: trying to make sense from Canada writes: I am not yet convince that this is a clear cut case of racism.Has this ever picked on other students(white)?

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    That's irrelevant. The point is, he called the Asian kid a racial slur. That, in and of itself, makes it a racist incident. Whether he's done this in the past is of no consequence.

    Try again.
  251. Tubers Boomer from Wow!, Canada writes: Sstephen wight from Canada.....based on your post and your run on sentence(s), I really question your intelligence. What was your main point you were trying to make?
  252. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Tubers Boomer from Wow!

    You know precisely, what he is trying to say. please do not display your ignorance for not understanding what he is says.
  253. Trent S from Canada writes: If its a consensual fight no one should be charged! This is how men/boys are supposed to settle issues, at least their were no weapons present which at least shows there was some intelligence.
  254. A Chinaman from Canada writes: Keswick may become the Capital of Racists in Canada, if the city does not do not something.
  255. Spud Lite from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada writes: I am absolutely amazed by this entire situation. I have four children (the older two are 29) who grew up in totally integrated schools, and retain friends from a rich diversity of nationalities.

    This sounds like the typical crap that happened back when I was in high school (1965-1970). London, Ontario, in fact. The whole concept is disgraceful.
  256. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: The boys have apologized to each other, is this not a bigger deal than the fight it self.
    They were children and children make mistakes. a lesson was learned today by the children. I wish others here would feel the same.

    This is a very nasty blog and I will not accept the name calling by intelligent people.

    shame.
  257. Craig W from Calgary, Canada writes: Bravo to this kid and to his family for standing up for themselves. Bravo to the students for rallying behind their fellow class mate. It is wonderful that this story has made headlines, so that the course of action taken by the school and its board will be more scrutinized and transparent, thus an appropriate outcome is more likely to happen.

    I endured bullies as a child and only wish I had the fortitude and training to stand up to them as this boy did.
  258. Ned Chiwalski from Oilgary, Canada writes: The bully got what he deserved! He should have gotten a little more to make a point!
  259. Kim Philby from Canada writes: There have been some comments to the effect that the Korean lad's training makes him a 'weapon', and it was therefore inappropriate for him to strike back.

    It's not what colour belt you have, but what you can do, that counts. Some dojos will award a black belt to any student willing to go through the rigors of a black-belt test. In any case, even if the kid is a skilled martial artist, he used his skills appropriately - that is, for self-defence - and he didn't use excessive force.
  260. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: This was problem between children, 99 % of the other children are against the issue, and yet you feel this childs moment of hormone filled anger justifies the hanging of an entire community.

    The boys have made up.

    This is for the best.
  261. Another Option canada from Canada writes: r Bartachoke I agree with your statement you are right it is not right to conjure such a radical image.. With this article linking issues with nipper tipping etc.. and that fact that there was a lack to take action by the school seems that the opinions of some where being tollerated by the community. This could be your neighbour next door telling racy jokes and people laughing. Children pick up the attitudes of the parrents. But when you fail to say something or speak-out the problem perpetuates. I hope this community can do some healing and possibly the children in the school understand and want to do more than the powers that may be.
  262. Another Option canada from Canada writes: I did not realize that the goose steppers live in York..
  263. Bubbles X from Toronto, Canada writes: My boy is a Canadian-borned Chinese having a frame of 260 lbs and 6 ft . Through his childhood he was the biggest and talliest in his primary and secondary schools. Although he was labelled a nicest giant, he was constantly picked on by racists and a few bullies wished to try their ability. He was upset emotionally everytime he walked away from all those incidents as he said he could run them like a tank. I was (am) constantly reminded him of his disadvantages: 1) non-white; 2) not a small frame. As he could be easily mis-indentified as a 'bully' if he fought back.
    You may think that what kind of a parent I am (not to let my kid to fight back).
    Well.....I did report to schools about some of these incidents. But instead they turned the blind eyes and ears. Teachers wanted to go home right after shool and they didn't want the hassle of staying in dealing with police.
    Now the police turn.......I had witnessed a few experience of how they handled white vs non-white situations. They always picked the easy way out: either charged the non-white or covered the incidents in sand. Nothing has changed since I landed in Canada 35 years ago.
    Oops.......one thing has changed.......no one now would ask for 'Canadian experience' for a part time dish washing job.
  264. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Another Option canada from Canada writes.

    That in it self is racist.

    terribly ignorant!
  265. Pro Canadian from Canada writes: One punch, with his left hand and POW!!! Nose broken. (Is the asian kid Left handed??) Seriously folks, I don't condone either act, but lets call this what it is. A bully got his A$$ kicked! Now let's move on, grow up and learn from this. Canada is a nation of many cultures and races. That's what makes us unique. In this day of zero tolerance, where a teacher can't even hug a small child and console them (and no I don't mean stick their hand down the childs pants while their hugging them) the lesson needs to be acceptance of diversity. Are things different than they were 20-30 years ago? Certainly. In my day, we would have met off school grounds, after school , and settled it once and for all. 99.999 percent of the time that would have been good enough.
  266. Nicholas Nicoloff from Toronto, Canada writes: Bullying in Ontario’s schools is a major problem which is given the spotlight throughout Ontario and even Canada. It is not tolerated nor accepted at any level and teachers, principals, parents and city officials make the public aware of its existence and effect on the student. Bullying can take many different shapes that include taunting, name calling, racial slurs, and physical violence. I find it quite disturbing that the York Regional School Board in this particular case is taking the side of the bully. This student who has been bullied before and now physically assaulted by his assailant acted in pure self-defence to thwart off his attacker. Under the Criminal Code of Canada part 1 Section 34 (1) Defence of a person: “Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself “ By laying charges and possibly having this victim expelled from school and forced to find a High School, The York Regional School Board is derailing the public efforts to stop bullying and racism. Racism should never be tolerated and by taking the side of the bully the school is now part of the problem. The bullied victim now has suffered both physical and racial abuse and should seek legal counsel and pursue this matter to the highest authority.
  267. Panda Budiwin from Edmonton, Canada writes: One free newspaper with English version and Chinese version always fabricate some news and so-called facts to deface Chinese. I am so sorry when many people use those junk to bother Chinese.
  268. Point Blank from Vancouver, Canada writes: The fact that this boys' cousin made the comment the next day tells me the police must get involved as this boy would be continually targeted if not for the larger community to step in.

    Kudos to the 400 students who marched to make the statement. Shame on the officers for not digging deeper to find out what happened. If everything in this article can be proven through witness accounts then the bully should be charged and made to make a statement of apology to the whole school.

    Finally, if the asian student had also punched the bully's cousin the next day when he made his slur then I could question the asian students actions on the day before, but he did not strike at the cousin of the bully and so I find it hard to fault him at all.

    This is 2009 people not 1899.
  269. Pro Canadian from Canada writes: Robert Slaven, you're right. he should have hit em with BOTH hands --AND FEET. And all you bleeding hearts out there who say violence isn't the answer, you probably haven't been bullied. Old Fashioned violence, the meeting after school way is acceptable. Most times it was all it took.

    The problem is that nowadays, the blame for the bully's attitude lies in every other place but where it should - the bully and or his parents. Psychologists and Social workers will tell you it's not his fault, it's society's fault. CRAP! A good a$$whoopin can cure a lot of things.
  270. Diane Schweik from Edmonton, Canada writes: .

    About ten years ago I saw a 20 something yob trigger an altercation with a middle-aged oriental man outside an Edmonton supermarket alleging that he had bumped him with his cart.The yob threw a punch and before he knew it was flat on his back,immediately whining about being hurt and claiming that he had been assaulted.I,and a few others,gave our names as witnesses as to what really happened.Really great when bullies get a taste of their own medicine.
  271. Pro Canadian from Canada writes: OUCH OUCH, how profound. And yet surprisingly -and amusingly accurate!
  272. Robert Slaven from Camarillo CA USA (in employment exile), Canada writes: I'm sure I'm repeating half the posts here, but it can't be said often enough: * Schools, teachers, principals, and administrators are, in general, just as stupid and ignorant and clueless about bullying as they were when I was a picked-on geek 35 years ago. Why don't they get it? * Whatever school administrator made the decision to suspend the 15-year-old in the story needs to be fired and needs to choose another career. The only possible exception I would allow would be a 'no-fault' suspension for a day or two to cool down and get the facts. * Whoever among the police or Crown prosecutors decided to charge the 15-year-old also needs to be fired and needs to choose another career. * If anyone is charged and expelled, it should be the original bully. Period. Case closed. I think the next time anyone bullies that kid, the kid should go to town and not stop with a broken nose. A few broken ribs would be nice. I'm sorry, I know most bullies have their own problems, etc. etc., but as a long-time victim of bullies, I have absolutely zero sympathy. Charge them, expel them, charge the parents if necessary, but PUNISH THE BULLY, NOT THE VICTIM, dammit!
  273. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Nicholas Nicoloff,

    Please keep in mind they are children and must be treated as such, what you suggest the child does is far to damaging to a community.

    These two young boys have apologized to each other.
    To seek legal counsel and pursue this matter to the highest authority is for adults and should only be used when matters go far beyond the our abilities to deal with the situation calmly.

    Sometimes - sometimes the disgrace of public humiliation is far better than that of the damage court proceeding can do. I find the quick solution is 'sometimes' the best one. not your route of cowardice.
  274. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Ooch Ouch,

    Couldn't be more incorrect if you had taken a class on it.

    This whole community is against what had happened. whether a person stays in a small community or moves to a larger city does not reflect on persons success what so ever, most of the business that built your country and continue to do so, come from these very communities you are attempting to dress down.

    I have invested a great deal of money in ventures that have their origins in small communities.

    Your remarks are very harmful and untrue.
  275. North Star from Canada writes: Message from police to minorities: we will charge you with assault if you strike back while being attacked.

    The police in Canada need binding civilian oversight now.
  276. Gabriel Allon from Canada writes:
    Diane, not often do we agree on something, today we do. Good post and good on you.
  277. Evan Young from Winnipeg, Canada writes: The Police are wrong on this one, they are not forced to charge and it looks like 'natural justice' was done, they are the ones making this larger than it needs to be.

    Congratulations to the youth for listening to his father - congratulations to the father for thinking ahead enough to make sure that his son understood the conditions where controlled violence in self defense is not only justified it's necessary.

    My father said the same things to me (other than the left hand bit, but I'm not a black belt) and it helped at school when I beat the bully that was coming after me into the ground. I tried to walk away, I didn't escalate the conflict and I didn't throw the first punch. When I finally had no other choice I put the other kid on the ground, hard. His parents dragged him down to my home that evening in tears to stand in my living room and apologize to me and my family. Case closed. We were never friends but detente was established.

    Congratulations to the other students in the school for their support!

    We need a better solution for non-weapon inter youth conflict... I just don't think the police and courts are it.

    Evan
  278. max from edmonton from Canada writes: Guitar Player from Vancouver

    I have filed your post for that fatefull day when my kids get older and run into a situation as you describe.

    Well done
  279. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: North Star,

    Awfully ignorant remark and quite honestly shows a lack of education.
  280. Robert Filyk from Calgary, Canada writes: one race only...the human race... it's pretty clear that some of the older generation (police-justice-anyone in position of power)in Keswick can learn this from the student body there
  281. Brenda Morgan from north Canada, Canada writes: This reminds me of the Pink Wave that started in NS a couple of years back, the fellow students stood up in support of a boy who wore a pink shirt to school. The results were incredible. Given we live in a multicultural society, I think this is an opportunity for education, the young people of this country will one day run it, it would be great if that included justice for all. I feel sadness for both families: one that has been attacked because of their culture, nothing they can change nor should need to; and also the other family for their deep anger, also a part of their... heritage?, but it can be changed, hopefully for a better tomorrow for all of us.
  282. J Stratton from Canada writes: Perfectly legal self defence - the victim carefully restricted his use of force. The police who charged him should learn the law. No person is compelled to allow themselves to be struck without responding. The white student however appears to be guilty of assault.

    The school board should immediately reinstate the asian student and permanently expel the attacker.

    The local constabulary need to be investigated for racial bias.
  283. Ooch Ouch from Canada writes:
    The sad facts are;

    Any child who aspires to success in life will leave a small town to seek fortune and opportunity. These are almost always the bright kids.

    All the stupid kids stay behind.

    The stupid kids grow up and become stupid adults. They marry the other stupid kids that became stupid adults, and eventually they have stupid children together.

    The gene pool thins out, Natural Selection goes haywire, and pretty soon you are left with nothing but a bunch of troglodytes in plaid shirts drinking beer and scratching themselves.

    This place is known as Keswick.

    .
  284. Your Manager from Calgary, Canada writes: It makes me wonder if this article is slanted a certain way?

    It only shows one side of the story and everyone jumps to the conclusion that the asian was the victim.

    Why was he the only one charged??

    There's more to this story then meets the eye.

    BTW - I've been to Keswick and it's a nice town.
  285. Pete H from Canada writes: Ooch Ouch from Canada writes:

    The gene pool thins out, Natural Selection goes haywire, and pretty soon you are left with nothing but a bunch of troglodytes in plaid shirts drinking beer and scratching themselves.

    This place is known as Keswick.

    And you are from?
  286. The Last Fenian from Canada writes: .

    Not to worry.

    From the sounds of it, this young immigrant boy will be the bully's boss in a few years.

    Don't get mad. Get even.

    Revenge is a dish best served cold.

    .
  287. stand up mimi from Vancouver, Canada writes: The Natrix from Toronto, Canada writes: 'But you go outside of the major cities, discrimmination, racism, xenophobia is alive and well.'

    Discrimination, racism, and xenophobia are alive and well everywhere. Sometimes they take different forms, depending on where you live. In the city, for example, I have been discriminated against for being white. In some small towns - like the one I grew up in - incidents like the one reported here are rare and not tolerated. You can't generalize that small towns are especially racist, and that cities are especially tolerant. I'm not sure what the dynamic is like in Keswick. The majority of residents are probably disgusted by the incident. Certainly 300 students are. That says more to me about this town than the actions of one or two racist bullies.
  288. Pete H from Canada writes: You (Pete H, from Canada) wrote: Ooch Ouch from Canada writes:

    The gene pool thins out, Natural Selection goes haywire, and pretty soon you are left with nothing but a bunch of troglodytes in plaid shirts drinking beer and scratching themselves.

    This place is known as Keswick.

    And you are from?

    I think the answer is self evident, the shallow end.
  289. The Last Fenian from Canada writes: .

    r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes:

    'Please keep in mind they are children and must be treated as such..'
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    15 years old, still children, heavily influenced by hormones and fear, prone to emotional reactions that may appear as irrational.

    Someone should explain this concept to Stephen Harper.
    Mr. Harper feels that a 15 year old should be treated as an adult, particularly if he has a Moslem name.

    .
  290. Clear Thinker from Canada writes: Your town is more racist than my town. And your race is more racist than my race. Oh and your economic class is more racist than my economic class. Did I miss anyone?
  291. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Ooch Ouch,

    Your remarks are incorrect,

    Most of the success of this nation has come from the very communities you are attempting to insult. I am not from this country and one of the first things are learned about it is the majority of the knowledge and ideas come the small towns, they are the dreamers and are the ones with the ideas. I have invested in great deal on money in ventures that have come from these small towns. I find them a warm people that will help you in a fix with no payment or thanks.

    Canada is not defined by its big cities, it is defined by the small communities that surround them. With out them there would be no cities. The Boys after all talked it out and apologized and it is as we say here in the city a 'non issue'. This is what makes up Canada, this is a young country and like the young boys who fought yesterday, make mistakes but have show us that they can get by with out involving the court system. I wish I could only say the same for us in the city.

    I am proud of the people in that community, 300 children represented the morality of this community, that most of you bash.
  292. Susan Rogan from Canada writes: Four hundred students do the right thing but the cops and the school administration do not. I'd be interested to hear how the school teachers and principal came to the decision to suspend the boy being bullied - for defending himself after being punched in the mouth, and how the police decided to charge a 15 year old with assault under the same circumstances; AND they took zippo, zero action against the perpetrator to compound things! And their follow up: maybe they will expel the victim of racism and assault.

    Way to go. I think the police and the school administration need a serious sit down with some outside authority. Keswick seems to have serious problems that start at the top.
  293. Pamphleteer . from Canada writes: Idiot cops. I hope this kid get a good lawyer and fast. The charges against him are simply outrageous. Self-defence is a an accepted defence in the Criminal Code. By the sounds of it, he was punched first and he simply struck back. It's infuriating to hear that the thug who started the thing walks away.
  294. Tim Burns from Calgary, Canada writes: Does one child's word count as fact legally? If any Asian, African student hits someone, and thens claims the other made a racial slur, then it's taken as fact?
  295. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Roger Bottomsley,

    could you embarrass your self further? I have shown your remarks to my grandson, his remarks were. 'Do you think he is a mouth breather Grandfather?'
  296. jacqofhearts j from Canada writes: Having lived in a small town for the first 18 years of my life, I am proud to say that it enabled me to befriend people who aren't like me (and I'm not only referring to looks here) and learn from people who view the world through a different lens.

    I'm so happy to hear that the student who stood up to the injustice have perhaps learned the same lesson I did from living in a small town. I feel absolutely horrible that the victim continues to have to endure the BS from short-sighted people. However, he seems to have a lot going for him, starting with a brave and wise father.

    I completely understand that this story has opened the wound for many to perhaps voice a little racism (jomo wanjala) or to announce boycotting (kevin Chong). Having been a minority myself, I can empathize with the distaste. However, please ask yourselves, 'how will choosing these options improve the current situation?' I would argue your ideas will only further enhance racism in our country where it should not be tolerated one bit. Instead, treat people with the respect they deserve and educate, educate, educate.
  297. Kenneth Owen from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: Did you catch Dad's last comment
    'Personally, for my kid, I should move. But as a Canadian I cannot move.'

    Thank you sir.
    As a person born in this country I can not see the good fortune I have.
    Thank you for reminding me how lucky I am to have neighbors like you.
  298. Roger Bottomsley from Tronna, Canada writes: Tim Burns - that would be a great point, uh, except for the fact that the police didn't lay any charges against the kid who allegedly uttered the slur so maybe one child's words don't count as anything 'legally'. Get it? Also, I don't recall seeing anything about an 'African' student. Are you reading a different story than everybody else?
  299. Tim Burns from Calgary, Canada writes: Racism is far higher in the asian community then the white community. Any non-Asian who has dated an Indo or Asian Canadian girl would know this.
  300. Sebastian Cobe from Calgary, Canada writes: The school has every right to suspend BOTH students for fighting. That is the way schools work. It has nothing to do with the police.

    Those calling the police racist. In a fight the person who presses charges first usually comes out on top no matter what race they are or even if they are a victim. I had a friend that spent 2 weeks in the remand for defending himself.

    The bully is oviously a jerk and it looks like things might work out properly eventually. I didn't know that 'Chinese' was racial slur.
  301. Alex Black from New York, United States writes: Few things are more disgusting than racism.

    The charges on the bullied should be dismissed, and charges should be laid on the bully.

    The immigrant kid had every right to defend himself.

    Hopefully, the courts do the right thing....
  302. Jo Ingblat from Canada writes: Tim Burns at 2:48. Show us some stats. Otherwise, do you see the irony in you comment? You prejudge Asian by telling us they are prejudiced. Duh,.... PS. your 2:50 comment is an embarrassment.
  303. max from edmonton from Canada writes: Tim Burns from Calgary, Canada writes: Loner Korean kid, no freinds, speaks little English, super achiever, under a lot of pressure with exams coming up, gets in fight and faces expulsion or suspension. What do do, simple, yell racism, lefties can't resist flogging themselves. NDPers get off on story's like this, kudos the the G&M.
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    I heard the young man interviewed on Charles Adler yesterday. He spoke perfect English

    your assumptions are just that.
  304. George Haeh from Canada writes: Kudos to the students at Keswick High and to the student who seems to have defended himself with no more than necessary force.

    As far as possible expulsions are concerned, How many feel the Principal and Director should be on the top of the list?

    Nor has the York Regional Police covered itself in glory with a botched investigation.

    The deeper problem is bully friendly school and police.
  305. Oil Cake from Toronto, Canada writes: Oh, Sebastian Cobe... Many things cans be racial slurs, given context. Tell me, why should a kid, forced into a fight while minding his own business, be suspended? Sounds like you guys have a great system out in Calgary. Please stay there. Tim Burns, too. I can't believe how much hatred comes out of your little white city.
  306. Jo Ingblat from Canada writes: max from edmonton, 'your assumptions are just that.'----NO, they're actually worse than 'assumptions'.
  307. Roger Bottomsley from Tronna, Canada writes: Tim Burns makes some interest points about how 'asian community' is more racist than the 'white community', but what is his basis for doing so. Is he (a) a world famous social scientist who has devoted his life to studying the myriad of groups that would comprise the 'asian' community in Canada and then engaged in a statistically complicated multi-linear regression analysis to compare them to his equally rigorous study of the 'white' community or (b) a mouth-breathing bottom feeder who feels comfortable making nonsensical generalizations regarding things he knows nothing about. Hmm, I'm gonna go with 'b'.
  308. tired of governments everywhere from Canada writes: Tim Burns, this became a news story when 400 students walked out of the school in protest. Get your facts straight. You seem to point out that every race has more racism problems than white people. Being a white person, I'd disagree, but then you'd call me racist. Personally, I think the G & M should remove any and all comments by you and save the rest of us the hassle of having to read your comments. I'm no NDP'er and personally, I would have clocked the bully long before this kid did. So kudo's to him for being patient.
  309. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Oil Cake,
    do you really feel its about being white?
  310. Ronnieblue Acacia from Edmonton, Canada writes: I haven't read through all the posts and may be repeating what some others have said, but I would like to suggest a 'hands out to a bully' approach. Sure the bully deserved what he got and the Asian lad should not be punished for fighting back. But couldn't there be some room for educating the bully? Have him sit down and meet the Asian lad and his family and make him realize that we are all human beings, some who come fro different cultures. Just to punish the bully without educating him may make him all the more prejudiced as he grows older. As a minority myself, growing up in Toronto in the 1950's and 60's, I experienced very little racisim, perhaps because I was born in Canada and spke perfect English. As corny as it may sound, I belonged to a Boy Scout troup and attended a Presbyterian church and all members of the church and cub and scout troop went out of their way to make me feel welcome as part of the community. The only prejiduce I can recall was when I was at a camp and we ere singing to some old war time songs 'Derepare Peb=-Be prepared', and one of the scouts whispered in my ear that I shouldn't be singing that song because it was meant for 'white anglo sason protestants (WASPs). Its funny how sometimes words can be just as hurtful as the Asian lad being physically attacked but its a comment that still lingers in my mind today. I can only say that if I were able to sit down with the bully, I'm sure over time I would be able to make him see the folly of his prejudice and make him become more accpeting of diversity. Its easier in a bigger city where diversity exists, but judging by the outpouring of support by the Town of Kewsick ( where I've been to in the past), I'm encouraged and optimistic tha bullies can be educated. I hope I'm not just seeing the situation through rose coloured glasses.
  311. philip polutnik from Canada writes: spend more time talking about the incredible support from the rest of the school kids

    why talk about the family of bullies. They are of no consequence but should be outed so the rest of the community can shun them as they justly deserve
  312. Pierre-Yves P from Canada writes:
    I disagree with posters here (including one Yankee) who are portraying this as a race incident: the color of the protagonist does not change anything. It`s about legitimate and proportionate use of force in self-defense, which nowadays is bizarrely enough considered a crime.
  313. john wardle from Canada writes: Welcome to vancouver where chinese boys will bully the minority white kid. But that makes no news, and, in fact, it would be considered racist if the white kid defends himself.

    You don't hear about such things because white people aren't allowed to complain about racist acts against them. Of course it's other white people telling them this.

    having said all that, serious attention needs to be brought to bullying in schools...one only has to look at the parents for the reasons why there are bullies.
  314. Jo Ingblat from Canada writes: PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T BE SO GULLIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! 'JOMO WANJALA' IS NOT a black man in Canada. He's a right-wing, anti-immigration, anti-PC troll who says outrageous things in order to get people to embrace his anti-immigration viewpoint. He's probably some neo-nazi somewhere, who knows that his opinions are so odious and asinine, that he needs to resort to deception to make his point. FRANKLY, YOU RIGHT-OF-CENTER FOLKS SHOULD BE OUTRAGED!!! He's pulling a Colbert on you!!!!
  315. T E from Oakville, Canada writes: Crap like this is why my daughter is starting martial arts classes as soon as she's old enough to walk (of course with the violence as last resort message stongly reinforced).
  316. Paul Howe from Canada writes: Regardless of who charges first the police are obligated to investigate and would have learned that the other boys initiated the incident and thus should have been charged.
    The school did not protect the chilld which is their duty. The Principal and possibly the gym teacher on the day in question should possibly be reprimanded for not providing a safer environment.
    The child who defended himself, which he has the right to do whether he is in a school or not, should not be punished in the least.
    The family should stand their grounds and stay.
    And kudos to the 400 students who stepped up to the mark. It is too bad the Administration did not do the same.
  317. trying to make sense from Canada writes:
    The claims of racism on this board are over the top people.
    Come on.
    Kids calling each other names,the horror! lol

    This is how you stop bullying.
    Good on ya Korean kid.
  318. Not the Alliance from In my opinion, the Harper Gov't is totally Incompetent... and this is due to their lack of leadership., Canada writes: It sounds like this was settled in the school yard, so you wonder why charges were laid. If the bully WAS the instigator, then I would say he got what was coming to him. And the show of solidarity by the other students kind of gives you the impression that this wasn't the first incident by this guy. So it's interesting the way the charges were laid only on the one person and not the other. This and the one sided suspension by the school authorities is more troubling than the actual incident.
  319. Oil Cake from Toronto, Canada writes: Maybe not, but it sure is in Calgary.
  320. va donc chier from Canada writes: the school was not protecting the kid, he had to protecthimself. The school was an unsafe place for him, and now it is even MORE so because the lesosn learned is that bullies dont need to fear their victims, victinms will be expelled if they stand up for themselves. The kid ought to SUE THE SCHOOL and the PRINCIPAL.
  321. Panda Budiwin from Edmonton, Canada writes: Kids do not really understand what is racism, but one of kids' family members or relatives does.
  322. Rattan Mall from Vancouver, writes: As the BIBLE says: Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings!
    I am SO PROUD of these kids - BUT shame on the stupid, racist cops!
  323. Frank Madigan from Capreol, Canada writes: Probably not racist...just two teens and one bully or a kid with a bad day said something stupid...Police and school official should back off and the two kids will shake hands...
  324. Sebastian Cobe from Calgary, Canada writes: Oil Cake, I didn't say it was right. I just stated that police press charges based on who complains first. They were probably notified by the school. Police probably didn't make a decision to 'charge that Asian kid'

    I come from small town MB. There is much more racism in Calgary where people have the luxury of being picky about who the associate with. Growing up in a small town you are friends with everyone or you won't have any.
  325. Disillusioned Onlooker from Sudbury, Canada writes: To all Canadians who believe that as a society we are tolerant: check your facts. We aren't.
  326. Tim Bryson from Canada writes: Way to go, students...you folks are what Canada is supposed to be all about. As for the adults on the school board, they seem to reflect the subtle racist attitutes in the community. A pox on them.
  327. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: We are.

    check your facts.
  328. Jello fuel from Satan City, Canada writes: What we need are better stereotypes. What I've noticed at my school is that different minorities are treated differently because of the various figures that 'represent' their cultures: you have the Cosby/Oprah duo for Africans, and imo, Anderson Silva for latinos. The chinese and middle eastern people have communist fishermen and suicide bombers as their stereotypes.

    In conclusion, if you actually are Chinese/middles eastern... get your a$$ in the Pentagon!!!!
  329. GLOBAL GAEL from Kingston, Canada writes: Dear kid,

    Welcome to Canada :)

    Dear bully,

    Welcome to the world. Yes, the world now hits back! watchout!
  330. Angry West Coast Canuck from Canada writes: 'Guitar Player from Vancouver' above is 100% correct, and I can only hope that the parents of the kid get informed about it. Wish there was a way to 'reward' useful, pertinent comments like that one so that they're brought to the attention of the correct people.
  331. John Hinkley from Canada writes: Golly Gee - three great posts in a row. I wonder how that slipped through the G&M censors.
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    John Ridout from Canada writes: what an awesome act of decency by the students at this school. My hats off to them for their willingness to show leadership to the school, the police and the whole adult community. Congratulations all!!!!!
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    Winston Churchill from London, Canada writes: I would have thought the police would have charged the kid who started the fight, not the kid who won it. Last I heard, self defence as a natural right.
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    garlick toast from Canada writes: Shaky Lady from guelph, Canada writes: And what color under the rainbow would you be Mr. Toast?
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    Red and white, just like our flag.To quote Frank Zappa,'' I'm not black but there's a lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white''. If I were a Keswickian, this would be one of those times.
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    I certainly have to agree with John, Winston and Garlick on this one!!!!!!!!
  332. Jello fuel from Satan City, Canada writes: L-O-L, I meant OCTOGON, I apologize for my moment of weakness.... It's not like I even watch the UFC often anyways.
  333. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: This is a one sided article. Think about it.

    The community is appalled.
  334. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: The 300 - 400 children whom appose the arrest, represent the overall morality of the community.
    They are not racist!

    They were children that were upset with each other, they made up.
    They do not represent the entire community.

    come on
    !
  335. A Canadian Girl from Canada writes: Jello: I've never heard the communist fishermen stereotype for Chinese. When I was in school, it was always the math/computer/physics nerd. I went to a highly academic high school and you knew what ethnicities made up the section in the upper grades (especially OAC). OAC Physics, computers, etc were likely to be over half Asian (Calculus was a mix - most kids took Calc), while the OAC humanities courses was overwhelmingly white. Business courses were generally a mix. There weren't many black kids in the school.
  336. james cyr from Balmertown Ontario, Canada writes: Congratulations to the 15-year-old who stood up to the bully. It was clearly an act of self defense. And congratulations to all the students who supported him when he was the one charged. They knew what injustice was being done. It is this type of injustice (the defender being charged) that is one of the major flaws of our Justice system. People have the right to defend themselves, their loved ones, and their property. It is something our decadent law officials fail to remember.
  337. Mike G from Canada writes: Your Manager from Calgary, Canada writes: The fact is if it was the other way around (a bullying vietnamese gang banger picking on a white kid) and the white kid broke the bully's nose I'm sure he'd be thrown in jail and called a racist.

    It's time to face the fact that racism is far worse going the other way.
    I know because I work with a lot of these people and find them racist, pushy, egotistical dummies.

    I can't fire them because they'll claim I was being racist.

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    What on earth are you jibbering on about?
  338. Rani Das from Canada writes: Of course this incident is about race. The bully didn't call the Korean child a dummy or a jerk or a nerd. He called him an effing Chinese. It was his perceived RACE that was objectionable. White people in this country should learn to stop lecturing to nonwhites about what the nonwhites' 'real' experiences are. NEWSFLASH: this country is chock full of racists. Any nonwhite born and raised in this country has had to hear epithets flung at him or her over and over again.
  339. Rani Das from Canada writes: Your Manager - anyone as ignorant, simple-minded and belligerent as you should not be in a management position. But you are, probably because you are white, and the 'people you work with' are not.
  340. Maria Vincante from Canada writes: What a horrible story G&M!!!

    Racism is a two way street. Black Whites Browns.......can all encounter racism!! Plus there is nothing to glorify when it comes to violence.

    I notice the G&M had no problem identifying the race of these two students when it is a white student who is in the wrong. Yet for the last 8 weeks a gang war in Southern BC, and Calgary (mostly between south asian gangs) has killed how many? Yet the media refuses to report this fact!!!!! This acts as a reinforcer that all whites are racists and all people of color are victims!!!

    Would this story be written the same way if it was a white student who was being teased. No it wouldn't even be written at all.

    The public seems to accept 'reverse racism' in our society.

    Racism is racism and vioolence is violence!!! No matter what your color or backround
  341. r Bartachoke from Canada writes: Rani Das from,

    I am from Sudan, I lived here for 28 years now. I happen to think that if you want to see racism or any thing that disgusts you, you find and focus in it. I have enjoyed my life and the people I have met, and I disagree with your remarks greatly. You want racism - can find it in Sudan, you can find in Pakistan, you can find it anywhere you want to.
    I think you will find that the only person whom is a racist is your self and the people who share your views.
    The people in this country are a fine people, white or any colour.

    You should be ashamed by your remark.
  342. Wilfred Laurier from Vancouver, Canada writes: The Principal of the school that premitted that abusive environment should the one suspended and up on charges, not this disciplined, Grade A student.

    And the police have some answering to do as well - why was the attacker not charged with assault?

    This is a blight on the country and inexcusable.
  343. Maria Vincante from Canada writes: Disillusioned Onlooker from Sudbury, Canada writes: To all Canadians who believe that as a society we are tolerant: check your facts. We aren't.

    Yeah we should be more open like not educationg girls, not having programs such as 'AFFIRMITIVE ACTION'. We should stop immigration. We should stop sending millions of dollars in aid abroad. We should stop providing assistance to new canadians.

    You want a more tolerant society.....move abroad!!! THere is a no more 'TOLERANT' society on the planet.
  344. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Ooch Ouch,

    I wish you a better life, you will pass in this life amounting to nothing, only in the fleeting moments in your death will you recognize this.
  345. Sebastian Cobe from Calgary, Canada writes: r Bartachoke, You are correct. My old roomate, from Nigeria, could not keep a job becuase he saw racists around every corner. Eventually ended in him being charged with assualt on a Asain co-worker who made a remark about him 'even a monkey could have finished that'. He took it as a racist comment and knocked the guy out right in the office.

    I moved out becuase I feared the same might happen to me someday.
  346. Maria Vincante from Canada writes: Are Rami's comments any less appauling.

    Wow, talk about racist.

    Yes Rami.....all whites are managers and all colored people are labourers!!!

    Join us in the year 2009, its not longer the 1960's bud!!
  347. Maria Vincante from Canada writes: Well said Bartachoke well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  348. Feminism_Is_ A_Sickness from Canada writes: Canada is as SEXIST as it is Racist. When girls abuse their husbands with verbal assault and Emotional Rape, the law does not protect the men. Girls hold up the Exclusive Victim Card and men get thrown in jail. Canadian laws are sexist against men and laws like Affirmative Action is Racist. Canada needs to fix their sexist and racist laws before they can comment on laws in other countries. When a girl unloads her emotional baggage onto a man when he doesn't want to hear about it, that is Emotional RAPE.
  349. Rani Das from Canada writes: Maria - it's RANI, not Rami. You managed to get Bartachoke, but can't seem to wrap your head around two syllables. I did not say every single manager is white in this country. However - you are living in lala land if you think there isn't a HUGE racial disparity in terms of management positions in this country. I wasn't alive in the 60s (I guess you were?) but no one is more aware of this racial disparity than second generation immigrants of colour, in their twenties and thirties, who grew up being told they were citizens just like everyone else. 'Your Manager' is a clear example of white privilege.
  350. Rani Das from Canada writes: Bartachoke - you're either a troll or living in lala land with Maria. If you ARE Sudanese, perhaps your expectations for fair play have been conditioned by experiences in your homeland. Perhaps you don't mind being called racial epithets, denied equal pay, harassed by the police, denied good jobs, excluded from networks etc etc? But you'll find that the vast majority of nonwhites DO.
  351. Olivia Beck from Canada writes: FeminismIs A_Sickness from Canada writes: Canada is as SEXIST as it is Racist. When girls abuse their husbands with verbal assault and Emotional Rape, the law does not protect the men. Girls hold up the Exclusive Victim Card and men get thrown in jail. Canadian laws are sexist against men and laws like Affirmative Action is Racist. Canada needs to fix their sexist and racist laws before they can comment on laws in other countries. When a girl unloads her emotional baggage onto a man when he doesn't want to hear about it, that is Emotional RAPE.

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  352. Alfagt 64 from Canada writes: what the f*****k, even in keswick which is full of white trash plays hard ball with others. if anybody can shows that the Keswick even exists in the map.
  353. alex mine from Ajax, Canada writes: Call the school administrators at the high school - let them know they're wrong to expel the kid and that you'll join the protest if they do: 905-476-0933!!! Make your voice heard.
  354. Olivia Beck from Canada writes: FeminismIs A_Sickness from Canada writes: Canada is as SEXIST as it is Racist. When girls abuse their husbands with verbal assault and Emotional Rape, the law does not protect the men. Girls hold up the Exclusive Victim Card and men get thrown in jail. Canadian laws are sexist against men and laws like Affirmative Action is Racist. Canada needs to fix their sexist and racist laws before they can comment on laws in other countries. When a girl unloads her emotional baggage onto a man when he doesn't want to hear about it, that is Emotional RAPE.

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    who is it in your relationships that is bringing the baggage?
  355. True North from The Free West, Canada writes:
    1. Everyone must admit that individuals of any age have the right to defend themselves by reasonable means.

    2. After being punched in the mouth, this student was completely correct to defend himself in this reasonable fashion.

    3. The police are fools for charging him for clear self-defense.
  356. Fake Name from Canada writes: Some people here appear to be confused; the bully didn't deserve a broken nose for the verbal insult - he deserved it for throwing the first punch.

    Self-defense is one of the most vital rights in a free society. When the victim is punished for protecting himself from assault, there is something VERY wrong with the system.
  357. Tubers Boomer from Wow Yet Again!, Canada writes: Bartachoke from toronto, Canada wrote 'what he is says'?

    Learn English, typing and logical thought. ;-)
  358. Terri Jubinville from Montreal, Canada writes: This is deplorable, on the part of the school and the authorities.

    The teens who uttered the slurs and the one who hit first are the ones who should be expelled and charged.

    What kind of adult community is this, the teens are way more mature and responsible it seems by going out of their way to support anti-bullying. Bravo Teens.
  359. Ottawa Guy from Canada writes: Oh come on. Why is this a major topic?! The CHUMP BULLY got what he deserved. If he's willing to dish it, he better live with the consequences. Honestly what did this kid expect? Its seen in enough cliche movies. In high school and at that age, you don't deal with reason, you deal with actions that is necessary. That includes going face to face. Who didn't go to high school and faced up with somebody that said something wrong to you. After you faced these chumps, they shut up. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. The ENTIRE SCHOOL STUDENTS UNDERSTOOD THIS SO WHY THE POLICE AND EJECTION!
  360. Marilyn Barnicke Belleghem from Burlington, Canada writes: I am impressed with the father for his advice to his son to use his power only for self defense, not to use all the force he could have and for refusing to run away. I hope more is done to support this type of parenting.
  361. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Wild set of comments on this board.... Some are even very amusing....

    I especially liked the 'gentleman' who suggested that the Korean boy should have dis-armed the bully instead of hitting him.... As the bully was using his hands and not a weapon, I would have far more problems with him removing the bully's arm instead of hitting him in the nose....

    There are a number of other comments that make just about as much sense....
  362. Wulfher SkullSplitter from Canada writes: The boy should be allowed to defend himself. Bullies deserve nothing less, I'd split his skull!
  363. Gar Lok from Markham, Canada writes: Let get the Korean Gov't aware of the issue, then the story will be picked by CNN and/or Foxnews... Maybe the international story on Keswick..the trailer capital of Canada will finally get the School and Police authorities to charge the bully
  364. Thomas Cheung from Mississauga, Canada writes: Can't believe that this is still happening in this City. Great to hear the students have taken a stand and to speak out against such unfair treatment of this young man.
  365. Bob Loblaw from Canada writes: .

    It is outrageous that witnesses say the 'victim' started the altercation and threw the first punch

    Then the cops and principal charge and suspend the real victim.
    (lucky the students stood up or this unfortunate 90% avg student would have been screwed)

    Only in Keswick

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  366. Feminism_Is_ A_Sickness from Canada writes: After 40 years of feminist hate propaganda the general population has been brain-washed to blindly vilify anyone who criticizes the bigoted feminist hate policies. The brain dead will crawl out of the cracks to regurgitate the sexist feminist misandrist hate propaganda like gospel. The sexist feminist gender biased laws against men, and the sexist feminist abuse of the media are proof that the feminist hate is systemic. Feminism is a CULT that is based on sexist misandrist hate.
  367. r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Tubers Boomer from Wow Yet Again,

    If that is your only remark than I am doing pretty good wouldn't you say.

    Rani Das,

    Your mind has been poisoned with hate. you are pointing a finger due to a lack of effort on your part. I have seen the level of blame in society increase over the years. Communities that do not want to take responsibilities for themselves and those in it.
    It is good life hear, no one said it was going to be easy.
    If I might a troll than I am a troll at peace.

    80% of the population is white, it only makes sense that you might notice them in positions of power. It is all about the numbers.
    No one will give you anything, you have earn it. Not walking around hate the majority of the community will help you a great deal.

    I hope you find peace.
  368. Cranky Old Guy from Calgary, Canada writes: I was friends with a Jewish kid 40 years ago that got into a running scrap with another kid. Until that point there was no problem, but the other kid and his friends saw the 'jewboy' and 'hebe' taunts were the most effective taunts. I don't know if it is considered rascist or just bullies going for a perceived weak spot. We remain friends, and he's told me that the few he's run into over the years havebeen embarrassed by their adolescent behavior.
    Without knowing the start of the beef between the two boys, we don't know if the taunt was intended to be rascist or just cause a reaction. The posters here that are slamming Keswick are just as bad as the rascists, because the kids at the school did the right thing, and every place has a bad apple or two.
  369. M N from Canada writes: Good for the kid. Good for his parents. And fantastic for the students at that school for rallying behind the kid.

    I hope more of the media picks this up and real justice is served (with the bully being the one that's charged).
  370. Bob Loblaw from Canada writes: .

    If a witness has a bully throwing the first punch
    (he is quoted by name in other papers)
    then how can the police possible not be charging the bully.

    This makes the cops look incompetant and racist.

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  371. Feminism_Is_ A_Sickness from Canada writes: Canada promotes sexism and racism with Affirmative Action.
    The feminist hate is systemic in the Canadian media.
    In TV shows and movies, Men are also being beaten up by girls without justification, and is always followed by another girl empowerment speech. Men are always portrayed as dumb, emotionally weak cry babies who are completely submissive to girls.
  372. proud canuck from 905, Canada writes: Well it looks like the bully's mommy and daddy are upset their son took a beating......If you can't accept the fact some one may kick your butt ......don;t pretend to be tough......
    Suck it up sissy and learn the lesson
  373. Rani Das from Canada writes: Please. The truly mentally deranged here are the ones who think we live in a paradise of racial equality. We most certainly do not, and this bully's kneejerk comment was a reflection of the society around him. Bartachoke: your credibility is seriously undermined when you resort to personal attacks, which are all you seem to have. Because the facts show that visible minorities are SERIOUSLY UNDERREPRESENTED in managerial and professional positions around the country.
  374. Tula Tam from Selkirk, MB, Canada writes: I hope the school, town, and provincial officials -- and the police -- are reading these comments. If they're not (maybe the Globe site is too difficult for them?), someone please pass it on to all of them. And whoever can correct the charges, and lay new ones, and hold the teachers and principal responsible -- please do so.
  375. Jim Smith from Canada writes: First of all, props to this kid and all the kids that stuck up for him. Sounds like they all handled themselves well. All the same, I'd bet anything the school isnt thinking about expelling this kid because they're racist. It's because he's a black belt. Whether he used his left hand or not, all the rules change for trained fighters and the school and the police are taking him more seirously because of that. He's the victim of a double standard to be sure, but not a racist one. School teachers and admins are all university educated and the police are highly trained and uphold the the law - neither professional group would be racist in a million years.
  376. Sam Brace from Canada writes: Bravo to the kid who defended himself and the school students who supported him. The parents of the bully should grab him by the ear, (or better still - the broken nose) and drag him over th the other lads house and make him appologize to the boy and his parents. Then the police chief, the school superintendant, and the principal should drag the other brat over and all of them appologize.
  377. Monique Fallon from Keswick, Canada writes: In regards to the person who decided that Keswick was a small town from Deliverance and that it must be the inbreeding here, I would like to clarify that as the mother of a 15 year old student who attends school with the two involved in this situation, please use some intelligence when providing comments or do not comment at all. Whether we live in Toronto, New York, London, LA or Keswick, not all people should be placed into the same category as the child who made the racial comments. I applaude my son for taking a stand against racism and for understanding that there may have been consequences for his actions but he decided to stand behind his friend, the asian child. As a 'white' mother, I am completely disgusted by the treatment of this child and the school's lack of responsibility in resolving this before it escalated to the point it did. What happened to the 'zero tolerance' policy? My thoughts are the 'white' family may consider a possible move as opposed to the 'asian' family because I believe there will be no tolerance for this youth upon his return to school. Especially from the other students, which the majority are caucasian. With all this in mind, I do not condone violence and have specifically taught my children to use your words as opposed to your hands. Unfortunately everyone has their breaking point. And on a last note, for anyone who knows or understands martial arts, the first thing that is taught is self-discipline and self-control.
  378. Upper Canadian born and raised in Western Canada from Canada writes: Describing the boy by his skin colour in the article is racism, and generates the racist comments all to easy to read in this comment section.

    Racism and stereotyping - it sucks for everyone!!
  379. Sam Brace from Canada writes: Jim Smith says: School teachers and admins are all university educated and the police are highly trained and uphold the the law - neither professional group would be racist in a million years.

    Sorry jim but educated racists and bigots are much more dangerous then uneducated ones. There have been many of them.
  380. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Sam Brace from Canada writes: Bravo to the kid who defended himself and the school students who supported him. The parents of the bully should grab him by the ear, (or better still - the broken nose) and drag him over th the other lads house and make him appologize to the boy and his parents.

    Great Post Sam. Whenever kids get into an altercation - the best course of action is to have both parents get together and make the pugalists admit (both) that things got out of hand. Sadly in our day and in our rejection of values Parent's let schools and municipal officials interject when a firm and guiding hand (Parents) need to show authority and forgiveness. Sadly this skill is lacking on many so called Parents....
  381. Frank Castor from ZephyrUxbridgeUdora, Canada writes: Well, this is close to my neck of the woods, so I'll chime in.

    I don't think it was necessarily racism, more bullying. If the asian kid was white, there would be no outpouring of support, and he would be unfairly punished.

    I was charged with assault without even touching the other person, nobody protested for me. Then the lawyer tells you well, $3,000 for a peace bond (no record) or $8,000 for a trial to prove your innocence,
    which you could still lose. Which option would you choose?
  382. Building an Ark from Eastern Slopes, Canada writes: Your Manager from Calgary, Canada writes: ...There's a lot of flaws in this article because it's trying to cause a stir.
    What's this asian kid going to do next? Bring a gun and start shooting white kids? Wasn't it a chinese loser who shot all those university kids in Virginia? Everyone is condoning his actions without knowing the whole story.

    Folks please regard your Manager with the intent they supply - hatred and also I doubt very much this is a serious post - or that this fool is even close to Calgary's area code. Fool...hate...goodbye!
  383. Sebastian Cobe from Calgary, Canada writes: Rani Das, I work for a technology company. As white and Canadian born I represent about 40% of the professional workforce. Neither of my supervisors were born in this country.

    The highest managment is whiter for the simple fact they have been with the company for a long time, hence they are not recent immigrants.

    Good luck on your search to find a more tolerant country then Canada.
  384. Darren In TO from Canada writes: .
    This kid's story and the story of those fishermen have NOTHING in common. Most of those fishermen were illegally over fishing, like they do in Vancouver, and quite frankly they asked for it
  385. Mike G from Canada writes: Upper Canadian born and raised in Western Canada from Canada writes: Describing the boy by his skin colour in the article is racism, and generates the racist comments all to easy to read in this comment section.

    -----

    Considering his ethnicity was the whole reason for the attack, your statement is one of the most asinine things I've heard all day. Congratulations.
  386. David Beentheredonethat from Canada writes: Surely there is someone in a position of authority in or near Keswick who will look into this matter and set it straight? Who the heck is running the funny farm? The cops must be embarrassed (please let them be embarrassed) and the school leaders must realize how they look as the result of their actions or lack thereof. Good God, this is Canada in 2009. What is going on? This is nothing short of bizarre.
  387. John Brown from Maritimes, Canada writes: Blame must also be lain on the steps of the school as well for the are clearly sending the wrong message by threatening expulsion. In effect the message is clearly they condone the racist comments of the WASP child in addition to his initiating the dispute by throwing the first punch. It seems that no matter what the outcome now, the school and its teachers have no tolerence for students of non-caucasian race. We wonder why society today is so screwed up and by the way, I am caucasion and would like to think I have not a prejudiced bone in my body.
  388. Charles Brown from Vancouver, BC, Canada writes: People are not born as bullies. They learn by example, from their parents, their families, or the people they grow up with. Superficially, Canada is one of the countries in the world, that prides itself, fully embracing multiculturalism. Unfortunately, many Canadians resent immigrants and think that new immigrants are stealing job and work opportunities from them. There is one thing these Canadians don't see. New immigrants to Canada achieve good results, by working four or five times as hard as normal Canadians, overcoming cultural differences, language barriers and social practices, all things that normal Canadians might not even understand. If Canada doesn't wake up and properly address this issue, new immigrants will eventually be forced to rally together and build their own sub-cultures for support and as a result, lay the foundations for a breeding ground for future cultural problems and racial instability.
  389. Ground Working from Canada writes: Those of you who think that racism is more rampant among white people in rural areas than in urban areas might want to get your hands on some public opinion polls and check them out. You're wrong, by a long shot.
  390. Rick C from Calgary, Canada writes: Right on!

    The 15 y/o Asian student probably won't be convicted since it is self-defense.

    The bully should be charged with assault...

    ...and then taken out back and beaten to within an inch of his life.
  391. Alberta Dennis Notso,redneck from Canada writes: Hey every bully as a matter of course needs a punch in the kisser. The kid should be rewarded and the bully kicked out.
  392. Eustace Mendis from Toronto, Canada writes: I have sent the following email to the Ontario Minister of Education:

    Dear Minister,

    I wish to call your attention to this story:
    (url of G&M article)

    You do not need to send a response to this email.

    Instead I look forward to hearing a public statement telling us how your ministry plans to deal with the Administration of the school in Keswich - a group of people that apparently thinks that both the perpetrator and the victim have to be punished.

    Yours sincerely,
  393. Raul Duke from Fat City, writes: I too was once bullied, but when I came out of my shell it happened to coincide with me belting the guy in the nose (no martial arts training). The difference was it was not racial, I was targeted because I was younger and had not fought back before. The situation was resolved, and I went on with more confiidence, but never starting a fight. One nasal fracture from a blackbelt? Well, he obviously did not put the boots to the guy when he was disabled-would the aggressor have fought that way? In an ideal world, the instigator with the broken nose would approach the other guy with honour, admit defeat, and congratulate his opponent on his skill. What we have here is recurring ignorance as the parent of the kid living in the trailer has to hide their shame of their laziness by teaching hatred toward those who have worked hard and look different; add in a bit of b.s. that our government hands money to everyone other than whites, and voila, you have another generation to support the C.R.A.P. party - much like the Hitler youth, or any other gang, gathers the weak and pathetic to make them feel strong by puttting the boots to a scapegoat. Fortunately our rednecks here are tame for the most part, compared to other sovereign nations, but the dynamic still exists. To set the record straight, I do not think a few ignorant rednecks with bad childhood outhouse or cornfield experiences represent anything close to a fraction of the balance of fine people in the 'Wick, as we have seen by the fine example these students have set. The police may want to lay the other charge sooner than later so as not to seem biased and face a civil suit - the RCMP are already preparing to hemorrage money from getting caught with their taser's out.
  394. Non Partisan I AM Canadian from Canada writes: PLease add my name to any petitions in favor of the Chinese kid.

    ;)

    Nice punch kid; that's what your training's for.
  395. Matthew Sawtell from Chicago, IL, United States writes: Cripes - if this was a Hockey Night in Canada Situation - Don Cherry would be screaming bloody murder at the refs (police) about the 'stupid call' against the Retaliator (the black belt) and rail against the conduct of the Instigator (the loud month bully), then question the mindset of his Coaches (the bully's parents). Then again, if this reaches far enough - o' Grapes may have something to say about it.

    But as this stands - this going to be fodder in the Asian Rim websites - this article has already been FARKed.
  396. George Haeh from Canada writes: A thought experiment here: What would have happened if said bully had pulled a knife on somebody with a black belt in karate? Most likely he would have ended up with much more serious injuries. Less likely the police would have charged his intended victim. Still likely the principal would have set the expulsion process in motion.
  397. so, what from USA, Canada writes: Darren In TO from Canada writes: .
    This kid's story and the story of those fishermen have NOTHING in common. Most of those fishermen were illegally over fishing, like they do in Vancouver, and quite frankly they asked for it
    __

    Where is your proof? Justification for beating on them instead of going to the law is what?
  398. Journey Man from Canada writes: Sask Langer from Canada writes: 'The only way to overcome this [racism] is through education. Everyone has the capability to be racist, the only way to stop it is for kids to grow up realizing that people can be different, and that's not a bad thing.'

    Sask: I would argue that the bully did receive an 'education' and a lesson in justice that he really needed from the Korean lad. Unfortunately the lesson in what not to do is coming from our official justice system.

    When the official justice system is broken then people will tend to resort to civil justice and who can blame them?
  399. Lisa L from Canada writes: My heart breaks for all three teenagers involved. Clearly things weren’t solved the way they should have been. As a Graduate of Keswick High school, not everyone who walks the halls is “ white trash racist” or “rednecks”. As some have stated in the comments I read. How much better or different are you from the two boys who brought down that one boy? I embrace change, and I have seen Keswick High embrace change and new cultural. Also it states that 400 students took a stand for the one who was bullied. We should be so proud of the kids in Keswick High for taking a stand against racism and bullying. This is just the tip of the iceberg, cause many more were more “quietly” supportive. I think this will open up a whole new door for Keswick, and that more people will feel free to be themselves. So please don’t judge a town based on two teenage boys who probably haven’t ever experienced anything farther then what’s in their backyards.
  400. sharon ott from toronto, Canada writes: The biggest issue in this case is with the police and the school board.

    The police charged the Asian boy who acted in self-defence conducted based on racism and the school board members that suspended the Asian boy without investigating the fact is based on racism.

    This case is absolutely wrong and must be reopen and punish the right people and organization.
  401. Okanagan Man from Sunny Vernon, Canada writes: Kid punched him in the head and he fought back. This is exactly why I have my kids in Tae Kwon Do so they can protect themselves from idiots like that. To bad the family has to go through the backlash of this but from the amount of supporters comments sounds like someone is going to wish they never laid charges here.
  402. Zane Lewis from Canada writes: This small town racism like the one I grew up in Alberta needs to be quashed in all towns!
  403. stand up mimi from Vancouver, Canada writes: Zane Lewis - There is no such thing as 'small town racism'. There is only racism, and it's found everywhere there are humans.
  404. Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: What about the bully's parents? Judging from the bully's cousin, the whole family seem to be disfunctional -to use a very mild word. But then I remember going to a neighbour's house with my husband to speak to the parents of a boy who was bullying my son on the school bus to the extent that my son was very apprehensive about going to school and I was told by that mother 'Bring up your kid the way you want to and I will bring up my kid in my way'. That was when I told her that if her son continued his behaviour, she would have to deal with ME. No more bullying!
  405. Yvonne Wackernagel from Woodville, Canada writes: AND as I do not live too far from Keswick, I should have mentioned that I am not surprised at the Police's actions.
  406. Stephano Daliwal from Canada writes: This 15 years old has a right to self defence. Kudos to him for defending himself.

    I bet that white boy would not have laid his hands on a black kid. It would have gotten a gang beating!

    It is time to end bullying and racism in schools.

    My advice to the parents: lawyer and be prepared to fight.
  407. James Young from Brantford, Canada writes: The theme for a great movie.

    Durgan.
  408. James Young from Brantford, Canada writes: Keswick sounds a bit like Eckville, Alberta.

    Durgan.
  409. Gabriel Solomon from Halifax, Canada writes: Anyways, this is for the parents to settle, lets hope they do the right thing.
  410. sam hawas from Ottawa, Canada writes: Just to show that Canada still racist .. and the special problem in Canada is that because of the politically correct rules in the society many racists force themselves not to show any sign of being racists so you really don’t know who is racist and who is not racist.
  411. You Talkin' To Me ? from Mount Pearl, Canada writes: Am I missing something here? The Asian boy clearly acted in self defence but he is the only one charged and he may be expelled from his school? Sounds like something from Monty Python's Flying Circus. Since when is it an offence to defend yourself? The Asian boy was first punched in the mouth by the racist redneck and he could have reacted by punching the agressor with his right hand instead of his left, as instructed by his father. If he had, the agressor's injury would have been more serious. I'm proud of the students who supported the Asian boy and I'm proud of him and his father. As a Canadian, I am ashamed of the manner in which he and his father have been treated by the school authorities and the police.
  412. indy jones from Canada writes: James Young from Brantford, Canada writes: Keswick sounds a bit like Eckville, Alberta.

    Durgan.
    ------------------------------------------

    Keswick sounds like A LOT OF PLACES IN ALBERTA.

    ................................
  413. O C from Toronto, Canada writes: jomo wanjala:

    I am a white immigrant from a European country and have been called a “f**** immigrant” along with a variety of other remarks more times than I can count and it has gone beyond just words on several occasions. The words “cracker” and “white boy” have also come my way. Interesting though that as a Caucasian, claiming discrimination will get little more than a chuckle out of others. But perhaps you are right, Jomo – maybe there are just too many damn white people in this country. The way I see it, your kind of thinking emphasizes the dividing lines of “us vs. them” and contributes to the problem.

    As for the incident – it is a good example of the xenophobia underlying a superficial blanket of Canadian politeness. Kudos to the kid for fighting back, to the family for staying put and to the students for making a stand – I have not seen that kind of action before and am proud of them.
  414. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: Any school fight involving white and nonwhite students, the white students should be charged with a criminal offence and thrown out of school. As long as there was a racial slur, or implied ethnic slur the boy should appear befor a human rights commission. The courts are too racist, and can't be trusted to ensure punishment.
  415. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: A white Canadian student who moved to Korea would never be subjected to such taunts.
  416. William Scott Lee III from Vancouver, Canada writes: This most likely what happened.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07u7KdRVo0

    White Kid Who Knows Kung Fu vs Skinny Black Kid
  417. SOFA KING from North of #7 in Ontario, writes:
    Should the headline not read 'Black belt teen strikes back at bully, and community rallies against racism'?
  418. Watt Mindtrip from Canada writes: The single most important line that was spoken in this article is this:

    'Personally, for my kid, I should move. But as a Canadian I cannot move.'

    Any kind of slander should never be dealt with lightly. This country is multicultural. If there are people in this country that still believe a person should be judged by the colour of their skin or the accent that comes with a conversation, then those very people should kindly look the other way and say nothing. Expression means a lot but not when it is demeaning to others. We are all part of something called the Human Race. Cultures may differ, but our biology remains the same.

    To those that can't get the picture: Wake up.
    To those suffering: Fight back. You are free and I support you.
  419. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: Maria Vincante from Canada writes: What a horrible story G&M!!!

    Racism is a two way street. Black Whites Browns.......can all encounter racism!! Plus there is nothing to glorify when it comes to violence.

    I notice the G&M had no problem identifying the race of these two students when it is a white student who is in the wrong. Yet for the last 8 weeks a gang war in Southern BC, and Calgary (mostly between south asian gangs) has killed how many? Yet the media refuses to report this fact!!!!! This acts as a reinforcer that all whites are racists and all people of color are victims!!!

    Would this story be written the same way if it was a white student who was being teased. No it wouldn't even be written at all.

    The public seems to accept 'reverse racism' in our society.

    Racism is racism and vioolence is violence!!! No matter what your color or backround
    _____________________________________________________
    Maria your justifying racism. Put your hatred away, and love your fellow man.
  420. Sven Gortz from Rupert, Canada writes: True story. In the 90s I was a teacher teaching grade 6 in a small Alberta town (red neck). There was an East Indian boy in my class who was so badly tormented by a group of boys in his grade that he constantly talked about killing himself (his own family was a horrific mess on top of it all, police and social services did nothing).

    I always talked to him about strategies for coping, but one day he came to me and said, 'Nothing works. No matter what I do, they beat on me. I want to die.'

    After a lot of soul-searching, I took him aside one day and told him, 'The next time one of those kids says a word to you, jump on him and beat the crap out of him.'

    By this point I didn't care if I lost my job over the matter. I knew the boy was serious about suicide and no interventions with the bullies had come to anything.

    Long story short, the boy took my advice. During gym, one of the boys kicked him and the boy turned around and beat the snot out of the bully, all those years of pain and rage coming out.

    The result? The bullying stopped instantly and the boy's life began to improve.

    I'm not suggesting this as a strategy, God knows, but I guess I'm saying the rules just don't work sometimes. There are bigger things than rules. Good for the Korean kid.
  421. O C from Toronto, Canada writes: Hahaha! Jomo, you’re just here to stir s*** up aren’t you? I bet you’re real name is John Smith. lol
  422. My 2 Cents from Canada writes: Wow, there sure are a lot of naive dolts who read the Globe. It sounds like the white kid gave him a little shove, so the Asian kid hauls off and breaks his nose.

    Assault bodily harm.

    He went above and beyond whilst defending himself in a sporting event.
  423. A R from Canada writes: I was one of the students at keswick high to take part in the protest.. and i am so proud of the student body to do this, we defenitly made a difference!
    The staff at KHS had no idea we were planning this, and by the looks on some of their faces they didnt seem to happy.
    The sad part is, this is only one case.. imagine how many other cases there was and everyone is just to blind to see it.
    Us 'rednecks' stood up for what we belived in, and i think we did a pretty damn good job!
    GREAT JOB KHS!!
  424. con hack loser PM is bad for Canada from Canada writes: 'jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: Maria Vincante from Canada writes: What a horrible story G&M!!!

    Racism is a two way street. Black Whites Browns.......can all encounter racism!! Plus there is nothing to glorify when it comes to violence.

    I notice the G&M had no problem identifying the race of these two students when it is a white student who is in the wrong. Yet for the last 8 weeks a gang war in Southern BC, and Calgary (mostly between south asian gangs) has killed how many? Yet the media refuses to report this fact!!!!! This acts as a reinforcer that all whites are racists and all people of color are victims!!!

    Would this story be written the same way if it was a white student who was being teased. No it wouldn't even be written at all.

    The public seems to accept 'reverse racism' in our society.'

    You're quite clearly an idiot.
  425. Candace M from Ottawa, Canada writes: Kudos to the classmates who have stood up for the their fellow student; the same cannot be said for the school's administration, whom I'm sure is doing some serious soul-searching tonight. If only the leaders at this school had the same sense as those they are teaching...
  426. sk sidhu from Canada writes: I am glad to see most commentators here standing up for the korean student.

    I came to canada in 1977 from india. Went to high school in small town in Ontario. Mostly white. There were few kids who called me names, even two teachers, and few adults in town were racists.

    Went to university in Calgary. A few profs were racists. Few fellow workers were racists.

    Racism hurts. But majority of the people were good.

    I believe racism is caused by fear, and is present in people who lack self confidence . I donot wish my experience on anyone.

    In a way it was a awakning experience for me because in India we have a cast system and my family is middle class . I cannot imagine what the majority of the people in india still must feel even today.

    Hatred in humans takes so many forms - relgious, economic, gender, ethnic, colour, language, class etc...
  427. Upper Canadian born and raised in Western Canada from Canada writes: Mike G:

    Racism is based upon discrimination by skin colour. Certainly this boy has a nationality. His skin colour, no different than eye colour or hair colour, is completely irrelevant to the story and only serves the interests of furthering the racists agenda - destroying cultures.

    Really, why is it that we all scream we are 'Canadian'; that's identification by nation-state...
  428. Josiah Smith from Japan writes: From my own experiences as a kid in Alberta, and in the school system in Japan, I see the same thing: the school administration protects the bully and punishes the victim for standing up for him- or herself. Quite the metaphor for adult society, don't you think?
  429. Ken from calgary from Canada writes: I agree with 'simply sanj from Montreal, Canada'

    write directly to the school and police to voice your opinion

    CATHERINE McGINLEY
    Principal
    Keswick high school
    keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    York Regional Police Department
    Armand P. La Barge
    Chief of Police
    info@yrp.ca
  430. Upper Canadian born and raised in Western Canada from Canada writes: Two wrongs don't make a right; it takes a bigger man to walk away; violence only begots violence, etc, etc.

    Sad that people promote violence as an acceptable means of solving problems.
  431. David Lim from Toronto, Canada writes: The governing laws and the police need to change to accomodate self-defense.
    When the laws of the Holy One, Lord God Almighty, is followed, life may be full of blessings instead of cursings.

    Even young students see good sense in standing up for the boy; the rulers of the school needs repentance or dismissal. The police and the judges need to repent or face judgement from the creator.

    Rather than paying the police and the law courts to protect people and their lives, it is much more efficient and profitable for the people to do that(self-protection) by themselves.

    It is justice to have an eye for an eye.
    The greater love(instead of justice) would be to let your opponent to hit your right cheek if he has hit your left. By forbidding self-defense and abdicating from power to self-protect, letting the secular laws and the police to arrest, charge and protect, the law administrators and the police have in no time present their right cheek and their left cheek. The ways they expect to settle things are absolutely ungodly and unjust. Their evil powers must be removed in setting humanity right.
    No one can be right with his fellow man when he can not get right with God.
  432. William Scott Lee III from Vancouver, Canada writes: There is a big difference between being a trained Martial Artist and a Martial Artist who knows how to fight and has fought in street fight. The Korean kid was the former, he was trained in Martial Arts but has never been in a fight in his life. He should have been able to block or avoid the punch from the untrained attacker. He was caught off guard. and he got hit in the mouth. Luckily after the blow to the mouth, he did not zone out and go all Bruce Lee on the white boy.
  433. JM The Habs Fan from ALL politicians lie, cheat and steal, Canada writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: A good example of how white racism is so prevalent in Canada. Black and Asian students are always being bullied by racist white students who are jealous of how well non white students do in school. Its time to put a stop to it, and if violence is necessary, then violence is necessary. _______________________________________________ jomo...you are one of the, if not the biggest racist on this site. Everything you say always comes down to race and how we should look at the colour of the immigrants that are let into this country as oppose to what they can offer this great country. To be honest, I'm suprised you still live in Canada. I mean based on your comments, nothing good will ever come of this country because we are all racists. Well...anyone who is not the same colour as you is a racist. As for the article. The bully got his what he deserved. Also some of the comments on here are funny. They use racist comments or negative stereotypes to put down the city and the people who live there. Ironic. At the end of the day, racist people see the colour of the other persons skin. They don't realize that the colour of that persons skin is the only thing that really seperates them from you. We need to realize that it's just a colour, but I don't think we will anytime soon. What ashame.
  434. Jim Saxon from Toronto, Canada writes: Adults are to blame - so what's new??

    The adults in the (bully) kid's life are telling him that it's not his fault that he is behind in life - it's all these f.... immigrants that are the scourge. Just look at the comment by Maria Vincante from Canada 'Racism is a two way street. Black Whites Browns.......can all encounter racism!! Plus there is nothing to glorify when it comes to violence' This is typical of what White Power hate sites are spreading all over the world - Whites are the aggrieved class - under siege, under attack from all comers...etc.

    The school calls the Police - probably justified (to avoid a law suit) but does not make the fact known in its entirety... additionally, it chooses to suspend only one kid. The copper sees blood flowing from White kid's nose and puts the Chinese looking kid in the slammer. Both kids should have been detained pending investigation or both should have been let go.

    The only bright light is the adult-like show of discontent by the High School students. No window panes were broken, no groups were fighting each other. This story would have died if the students had not risen. Kudos and Bravo. I wish I had that kind of courage. You guys make me and the country proud.
  435. Bang the Drum from Toronto, Canada writes: Thanks for proving what I've always found - that a majority of Canadians, especially younger Canadians, are intolerant of intolerance. A small sub-section of some communities is always quick to paint Canadian society as implicitly and deeply racist. There are some. But they are not the majority. Thanks, Keswick.
  436. Donald Wilson from Canada writes: Kudos to all the other students that are showing the rest of Keswick the way forward . Now they have to re-educate the school officials for threatening to suspend the victim for defending himself . the Ontario Attorney General will have to talk to the Keswick area police -informing them that self defense isn't a crime . How stupid can these police be ? This is evidence there is white trash in Canada - in Keswick it seems .
  437. daniel saliken from Vancouver, Canada writes: That town embarasses me as a Canadian.

    the Korean family should move, and move here to w coast and have a good life. Don't waste any more time in that town with that mentality. It's not mentally or spiritually healthy for the family. Come here and teach your kids to surf and golf.
  438. O C from Toronto, Canada writes: 2 kids displayed acts of racism and about 300 or 400 hundred students stood up against it. So why is the entire town called 'red necks', 'racists', 'white trash', etc.?
  439. Chuck in Edmonton from Canada writes: The issues here relate to the racist bullying and why it was tolerated in the first place, the lack of proper investigation that could possibly lead to only one of the two boys being charged (recognizing that there are two sides to every story), and the apparent failure by the school administration to deal with this properly.

    Seems like the 400 kids are the only ones managing to see through the incident to the truth. Good for them.

    And good for the kid for standing up for himself.
  440. Alexander Slimnich from Canada writes: A lot of racist comments against the people of Keswick here.. it's disappointing.

    Not much more to add other than to point out that people with martial arts (or military) training are often held to a higher standard when it comes to the use of physical force in self defence - they should have the ability and self control to only use the minimum amount of force (and inflict the least serious injury) necessary to defend themselves and flee the situation.. and breaking someone's nose may cross the line between self defence and criminal assault (difficult to say, given the story doesn't have a detailed account of the incident).
  441. Bennett Kim from Toronto, Canada writes: It's hard enough for recent immigrants to arrive in Canada and adapt, especially in small communities. Regardless of ethnicity, we are all Canadians and I commend the 400 students who took the initiative to stand up behind the victim and recognize that this recent immigrant should be treated with same level of respect as all Canadians. The perpetrator may have suffered a broken nose which will heal, but the victim suffers from a broken heart with a family in confusion. The family should be commended for their perseverance in staying and pressing on with their lives. Perhaps, they now see that they had more friends than they realized. Moving only encourages the intimidators. Twenty years ago in Pictou, Nova Scotia the son of Henderson Paris was beaten like this Keswick boy because he was different, thus he began the 'Race against Racism'. Henderson Paris retired from this annual event that grew from a single man to a community. Proudly, the 'Race against Racism' will live on without him. Perhaps, Keswick can learn from the healing from a great Canadian this great Canadian. The 'Race against Racism' could set up a franchise in Keswick. God Bless Canada and God Save the Queen.
  442. mike havery from Calgary, Canada writes: Looks like the school board can't figure out how to do the right thing here. As for the police - they looks like a bunch of small town racist hicks. The charges should be dropped.
  443. Rain Couver from Canada writes: G S from Toronto, Canada writes: 'Being Jewish and from the US.........Maybe should give a little more respect to Canada, seeing as the US and Isreal are just great examples of peace and justice for the world!'

    >>Oh no you di-int. That you automatically associate a Jewish man with Israel is beyond ignorance. As many anti-Israel posters would say, you can be anti-Israel and not be an anti-Semite. Either that or you are proving that Israel and all Jews around the world are linked and to be anti-Israel is to be anti-Semite. I am a Jew living in Canada. I am Canadian (and American, I love dual citizenship). I have no aspiration for living in Israel, although it is nice to know that I have a haven to go to if things get a little too dicey in Canada. As a great AMerican once said, 'it is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.'

    As for your anti-Americanism, indeed it is true that the US has made some really questionable decisions in the recent past, but in the grand scheme of things, I would much prefer to live in the United States than Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, UAE, Saudi Arabia, China, Cambodia, North Korea, etc. but if you feel more of a kinship with these types of countries, by all means, don't let the Canadian flag slap you on the way out. As a great Israeli once said, 'sheket bevakasha.'
  444. Zoe Morrow from Canada writes: Well, if you are different you WILL be bullied. That's the school yard rule. And it often seems to be the case in 'real life' too. Sad maybe but it's reality. Get over it and move on.
  445. Liliana Plesnik from Toronto, Canada writes: It is well known, in small towns in Canada, recent arrivals are not well received . One is isolated because of language and race. It's good students responded in this fashion.
  446. We won't get fooled again from Whoville, Canada writes: A shame that we have good Korean folk who have to live in Keswick. Typical cop reaction to charge the wrong one - hope he didn't have a concealed stapler.
  447. Jonathan Schaper from Australia writes: This is a 1980s film come to life. Next thing you know, Shaba Doo will roll into town and save the Electric Boogaloo from closing down.
  448. tibor anghi from hamilton, Canada writes: i met a f.....g hillbilly through work and he told me that he cant beleive that i visited his home town and i'm still alive.
    i'm white and have an accent the hillbilly is from virginia states
    this happened last sommer,2008
    i still cant beleive that in 2008 this can happen,1908 maybe.
    just how isolated is that town where the boys fought
    i can only comment one thing if i was that korean kid i would've punched the red neck mother f....r with my right hand
    and the police ,i'm not suprised that they charged the korean kid,
    they are probably inbreed of course they will be on the wigger side
  449. jomo wanjala from Toronto The Finch, Canada writes: con hack loser PM is bad for Canada from Canada writes: ' What a horrible story G&M!!!

    Racism is a two way street. Black Whites Browns.......can all encounter racism!! Plus there is nothing to glorify when it comes to violence.

    I notice the G&M had no problem identifying the race of these two students when it is a white student who is in the wrong. Yet for the last 8 weeks a gang war in Southern BC, and Calgary (mostly between south asian gangs) has killed how many? Yet the media refuses to report this fact!!!!! This acts as a reinforcer that all whites are racists and all people of color are victims!!!

    Would this story be written the same way if it was a white student who was being teased. No it wouldn't even be written at all.

    The public seems to accept 'reverse racism' in our society.'

    You're quite clearly an idiot.''

    You are quite clearly a racist !!!!!!!
  450. jomo wanjala from Toronto The Finch, Canada writes: You never hear about racist black or Asian students in the news, Whites are always attacking others when they feel threatened. Canada is becoming a true multicultural society, enought with European concepts about the environment, woman;s rights, etc. those in the majority should decide.
  451. Skeptic at Large from Xanadu, Canada writes: Thank you to Simply Sanj who posted the names and e-mail addresses of the Principal of the school and the Chief of Police for the York Regional Police Department at 9:07 a.m. I will be e-mailing them with my comments regarding their actions.
  452. S S from United States writes: What a farce! I always chuckle when people try convincing me how 'nice' Canadians are an how terrible we are in America, but, reading over the comments that others have made, it's clear to see that racism is alive and well in Canada and racist slurs are not only tolerated but rewarded. What they did to that boy makes as much sense as when people say that Anti-Semitism as our own fault. For what, just living, just not being an Anglo? I am utterly dismayed at how the victim is the one that faces criminal charges, utterly dismayed.
  453. tan dinh from toronto, Canada writes: I have friends in Keswick, I'm Asian, and I also grew up in a small town. I think that the whole thing is blown a bit over board. I just think that a few bad apples are making the whole community look bad. There will always be closed minded people out there, but luckly Canada has alot of opened minded and kind people too.
  454. Jim Saxon from Toronto, Canada writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto The Finch, Canada writes: You never hear about racist black or Asian students in the news, Whites are always attacking others
    ________________________________________________________
    Quite clearly total cxxxp. My kid was bullied by a child of colour. She came from a highly disadvantaged family and took out her frustration on any and all... Bad behaviour is not the domain of any one skin-colour and should be sanctioned wherever it is found. You must notice that it was White kids who stood up for that Korean kid. Do you find such love of fairness in any other society?

    At this moment, we are talking about the behaviour of the adults (School and Police) involved - and you should not make an attempt to drag whole White race into this discussion.
  455. Coach rich from Vancouver, Canada writes: Hats off to the students who protested the treatment the Asian students are be submitted to.

    The racist rednecks shoud be asked to suck it up or find another town.
  456. Cynthia Kennedy from Canada writes: I too commend the efforts of the 400 students who protested and feel for the victim (i.e. the Korean-Canadian teen).

    What I would like to know is whether the actions of these students will be supported not only by the authorities involved but also of the parents and others in the community. I have read some of the posts from those living in Keswick such as Lake Simcoe and Monique Fallon, and understand their frustration with some of the posts on this forum, but noted that in their posts they had not mentioned what their actions will be. I have not been to Keswick and would never assume the majority of the community is like the 2 ignorant teens in this story. However, at the same time, this story would make me think twice about visiting or living there. In order to re-establish their reputation, I think the community of Keswick needs to step up and support the efforts of the 400 students and put pressure on the authorities to do the right thing and rectify the situation.

    I do hope that G & M follows this story through and provides us with updates on what happens to the students.
  457. indy jones from Canada writes: Keswick sounds a bit like Eckville, Alberta.

    Durgan.
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    Keswick sounds like A LOT OF PLACES IN ALBERTA.
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    Sorry, I meant to say Keswick sounds like MOST PLACES IN ALBERTA.

    ...........
  458. Neil Fiertel from Spruce Grove, Canada writes: Funny isn't it how Alberta is often slammed as redneck and here a really redneck and disgusting incident happens in Ontario and the defendant is the victim of the first two incidents is victimised by the police and school after defending himself. The students who came out by their hundreds in solidarity for him should be highly commended for they are right. Having been a victim of childhood racism and intolerance but NOT having the skills to defend myself, I know full well what this young man felt. Frankly, had I the skills as a kid that he had, I would have done exactly the same thing but instead, I was the one beaten and I might point out that when as a child I called to adults walking by to help me they just kept walking on. This is the kind of life lesson that a kid ought not to have. Having to defend oneself ought not to be required but surely under the circumstances, this young man ought to be right back in classes. The teachers who suspended him ought to have their heads examined. They are like the adults who walked away when I needed help. For Shame! Out here in so-called redneck Alberta, the Asian population is very large, well accepted and welcomed. If you don't find a comfortable life in Ontario, Alberta will welcome you.
  459. john livingstone clark from Saskatoon, SK, Canada writes: the fact is that our kids are physically bullied on the basis of race, appearance (fat, handicapped, poor etc.), ethnicity/religion, sexual orientation and any other difference a bully wants to focus on. bullies get away with intimidating and terrorizing behavior in schools that no adult would get away with in the adult world. how the authorities came to the conclusion that the Korean boy was the 'problem' is beyond me;
    all evidence points to the bully being his usual a/hole self (in a school that does not rehabilitate him), only this time a victim defends himself:
    which in this country is anyone's right. shame, shame on mindless pedagogues and legal loons.
  460. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Okay, I'm starting to get a little annoyed with the urban elitists and the "only whites are racist" crew....

    Every single race / culture has idiots who hate other people. They hate other people because they are different, smarter, better looking, more successful, whatever. Give them a few minutes and they'll have a reason to hate.

    Guess what, some people hate. Read about the history of Africa, tribalism at its best. Rwanda, Somalia, Sudan.... lovely examples of home grown hate. Can't blame that on the white guy down the block.

    It is rare that I would ever look to the U.N. for intelligence and reason, usually it is a soap box for somebody but take a look at this article in order to get a broader view of race relations....

    http://www.hrdc.net/sahrdc/hrfeatures/HRF20.htm
  461. Richard Provencher from Truro, NS, Canada writes: It sounds like the police should be investigated for their lack of concern for the victim? They should have automatically also charged the bully. How do they expect the public to believe in the fairness of the law? Thank goodness the students stood up for the victim. Great going students. I am a proud Canadian, caucasan, and am glad the victim stood up for himself. I remember when my two young sons were chased constantly from school and finally caught. My youngest was ten, held by one thirteen year old and pummelled by another thirteen year old. No one did anything, no proof, and the law did nothing. I took my sixteen year old to the goons one day and said, you have my permission to stand up for your brothers if the goons ever laid a finger on my two sons again. Vigilante talk. No. And the thugs never bothered my children again. We have too many instances where the thugs get away with murder and I am so happy that school, in the beautiful town of Keswick, stood up for their friend, from another country. I'm just so sick and tired of hearing stories of these thugs, shameful Canadians, who grow into adult thugs and never get caught or found accountable for their actions.
  462. leahma Tiu from Toronto, Canada writes: WOW! Canada.....please take a few steps back and see what an amazing people you are! You are telling the world how progressive, fair and colour-blind you are as a society! As a minority who has lived in racist countries both in Asia and the "West" for most of my adult life, I take my hat off to you Canada! No wonder you are the beacon of the north and the envy of the world! Kudos for standing up to racism and racial discrimination!
  463. Stephen Bosch from Calgary, writes: "Personally, for my kid, I should move. But as a Canadian I cannot move."

    Damn right. Good for him for standing firm for his kid, and for the betterment of our society.
  464. justice peace from burnaby, Canada writes: Bullying happens everywhere schools ,work,at home ,within the family.It is unacceptable behavior a cancer that needs to be cut out . The police are unreliable just want an easy time drink coffee eat donuts. The legal system is a sham okay for the rich or if your dad is a lawyer. Next time mash the bully to a pulp your screwed no matter what you do. Schools are really prisons for kids.
  465. john smith from Canada writes: imagine a victim was a black kid and not so good brades.
    I bet you he would be handcuffed by police in front of everybody and Fantino types would give you speeches about "gang violence" in our society. and then, immigrant blaming would start.

    ps. kudos for kids in this community, it seems that they are much more advanced than older generation. hopefully many of them will stay with local school board and police in future...
  466. William Scott Lee III from Vancouver, Canada writes: Alexander Slimnich

    "Not much more to add other than to point out that people with martial arts (or military) training are often held to a higher standard when it comes to the use of physical force in self defence - they should have the ability and self control to only use the minimum amount of force "

    I don't think a person should be judged by the type of training they have, but the type of damage that was inflicted and the circumstance. A person with no training could easily have broken the boy's nose. It only takes seven pounds of pressure to break someone's nose. A ten year girl can break the boy's nose. What's the big deal.

    What do expect Korean kid to do, he already got a busted lip, roll over and get a beating.

    Even though the Korean boy is a trained Martial Artist, he is still a minor and has never been in a fight in his life.. For God's sake he is only fifteen and you are treating him like an trained killer.

    The Korean kid most likely had a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, because that is the national martial arts of South Korea. Tae Kwon Do is a hard attacking style of martial arts with an emphasis on kicks. Of course they are taught to block and parry, but its primitive in this regard compared to some Chinese martial arts like Wing Chun. Tae Kwon Do practitioners are rarely taught immobilizing hold or chokes, unless their teacher incorporated some Judo or Jujitsu. That is why his father told him if he gets into any fight only use his left hand to strike, because that is the only way he can pull his punches while still defending himself.

    He inflicted the type damage a normal person would in a such a situation and his use of force was not excessive. The police would have a right to be concerned if the white boy was in sent to the hospital with several broken ribs and massive internal injuries.
  467. home in Toronto from Toronto, Canada writes: A Canadian Girl from Canada writes: As a minority born and raised in Canada AND culturally westernized, I've always had to EXPLAIN to people, both minority (especially minorities from other cultures) and to white people why my family and I are not 'culturally Chinese.' The government and its multicultural policies don't seem to understand that Hong Kong Canadians, or at least a certain segment are just this way. I sometimes find myself over-doing the westernized thing, to the point that I'm a hideous caracature of a 1920s debutante to prove something. And that's really unlady-like!
    ______________________________________________________
    I'm black, grew up in Toronto and was often in the same position. Not white, but not black enough. I'm in my 20s now and am more comfortable with myself, but it really sucked growing up. Dropping the "g"s at the end of your sentences to fit in with black peers is actually alot of hard work. On the other end, making sure that I enunciated my "r"s to fit in with my white peers is also a real chore. Oddly enough, I don't think that I ever really fit in with either side. I guess we are hybrids.
  468. S B from Canada writes: Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Okay, I'm starting to get a little annoyed with the urban elitists and the "only whites are racist" crew....

    Every single race / culture has idiots who hate other people. They hate other people because they are different, smarter, better looking, more successful, whatever. Give them a few minutes and they'll have a reason to hate.

    ----------------------

    Just because others choose to hate it's ok? I guess marrying an 8 year old should be legal in Canada? It is in Saudi Arabia. How about beating women because they go out in public without a male relative?

    You can be a leader or follower. Your choice.
  469. Window Pane from Canada writes: Somehow I find it hard to belief that anyone with such a pseudonym can be a teacher anywhere let alone gainfully employed.
  470. Rani Das from Canada writes: Sebastian Cobe - sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not 'searching' for a new country. This is MY home and native land, and I intend to fight for the day that my kids, whenever I have them, don't have to endure the racial taunts and discrimination I faced.

    Bravo to the little Korean child, his parents, and the four hundred kids who stood up.
  471. censured ... from Canada writes: personally I think the Chinese boy's father should go and teach the banjo-picking fathers of the other kids some manners. Bad parenting leads to bad kids.
  472. Hmmmer ? from Canada writes: r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: very nice - i just wrote a nice article to calm this nasty blog, and The G&M won't post it. But they will allow all this nasty name calling go on.

    You have some nerve. creating divide amongst people just to sell an article.

    Anyone of you who even use the word racism, is most likely a fool.

    --------------------------------------

    You lament name calling but then call people who use the word 'racism', fools!

    You don't make sense.

    Hmmmer. Things that make ya go, hmmm?
  473. joe garcia from Canada writes: By letting the Bully/Racist/Instigator go with no consequence, the High School is clearly contravening the York Region District School Board’s Safe Schools Policy:

    http://www.keswick.hs.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/Resources/YRDSBSafeSchoolsBrochure.pdf

    How can this High School CLAIM to have a "zero-tolerance policy on bullying"????!!!!!!

    "welcome to our school website. I would encourage you to contact us at

    keswick_hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    if you have any questions or comments.

    Thank you for visiting us!

    Regards,
    C. McGinley
    Principal
    Keswick High School"
  474. joe garcia from Canada writes: KESWICK HIGH SCHOOL

    keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    Anti-Bullying Policy :

    "Bullying can take the form of physical, verbal, or emotional abuse directly or over communication networks (cyber bullying). At Keswick High School, there is a ZERO-tolerance policy on bullying which is supported by the York Region District School Board, and the Ministry of Education of Ontario." ??????

    Keswick High School Mission:

    "The mission of the York Region District School Board is: "we unite in our purpose to inspire and prepare learners for life in our CHANGING WORLD community." ??????

    http://www.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/page.cfm?id=ICM000001

    Since it seems at this High School, there's no consequence for slandering and making racial slurs and going ahead and punching someone in the face.

    Under these circumstances indicating Keswick High School condones racism, completely ignoring its own mission Statement, it is NO SURPRISE that the victim resorted to defend himself by braking the Bully's nose.

    Letting the attacker go without punishment seems like a clear INVITATION by the Keswick High School for more violence.
  475. John Anon from United States writes: I recently became a member of a website that deals with issues of bullying. It's called TotallyNotTrue.com. I encourage you students and parents to check it out and share your thoughts on the website. We all need to be involved in stopping bullying.
  476. joe garcia from Canada writes: http://www.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/

    York Region District School Board
    The Education Centre - Aurora
    60 Wellington Street West, Box 40
    Aurora, ON
    L4G 3H2

    feedback@yrdsb.edu.on.ca
  477. joe garcia from Canada writes: Kudos to the 400 students who walked out, they should continue to walk out until the agressor gets suspended and reprimanded for his bullying and for his act of racism.

    What kind of School Principal is this?!! The School Management should be ashamed of themselves for condoming bullying, discrimination, and racism!

    Where is the School Board on this? Is Racism condoned in Ontario???

    How can they possibly justify blaming the victim for his self-defense?
  478. Hmmmer ? from Canada writes: r Bartachoke from toronto, Canada writes: Tubers Boomer from Wow!

    You know precisely, what he is trying to say. please do not display your ignorance for not understanding what he is says.

    ----------------------------

    OK, can I display MY ignorance for not understand what you is says?

    Lighten up dude!

    You're gonna have a cardiac attack Jack!

    Hmmmer. Things that make ya go, hmmm?
  479. joe garcia from Canada writes: I highly recommend to every member of Keswick High School's Administration, to all members of their School Council, to all members of their Student Council, and to the representatives of the York School Board to rent a copy of Clint Eastwood's recent movie: "Gran Torino" and watch it.

    Looks to me like some of them, MOSTLY the pathethic Administration, have lots to LEARN!
  480. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: I don't think schools should instigate 'anti bullying' campaigns, as these are often fronts for racist expulsion policies.

    Statistically afro-Canadian children are penalized at a higher rate for 'so called bullying' which is often just joking or kidding around in afro-Canadian culture.
  481. Hmmmer ? from Canada writes: I can just see it now the parents of the bully all struttin' and acting tough.

    Then, one short sharp shot to the shnoz-olla and 'poof' it's over.

    One punch by one kid and their whole house of cards-macho-racist bulls!t falls apart.

    Time to start workin' on your image there white trash.

    Stop chasing parked cars!

    Hmmmer. Things that make ya go, hmmm?
  482. jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: 'Anti bullying' policies are fronts for racist expulsion policies.
    Statistically afro-Canadian children are penalized at a higher rate for 'so called bullying' which is often just joking or kidding around in afro-Canadian culture.

    Proof of this can be found in the following Ontario Human Rights Commission report:
    www.ohrc.on.ca/en/resources/discussionconsultation/SafeSchoolsConsultRepENG?page=SafeSchoolsConsultRepENG-I.html
  483. Hmmmer ? from Canada writes: Listen to me! I'm telling you now!

    OK everyone go to the video store and rent Russel Peter's two dvd's.

    OK, just take it and go!

    Hey, did you know they don't speak Chinese in China?

    Hmmmer. Things that make ya go, hmmm?
  484. Kai C from Canada writes: That kind of white trash doesn't belong in a multicultural society.
  485. joe garcia from Canada writes: Didn't realize how backward Lake Simcoe appears to be? Who would have known that Toronto is surounded by what appears to be hick red-neck territory!!!

    Racial profile of Town of Georgina, Ontario (of which Keswick is part of):

    96.1% White
    1.6% Aboriginal
    0.5% Black
    0.3% Chinese
  486. jomo wanjala from Human Rights Champion, Canada writes: The Ontario Human Rights Commission should look into all interacial school fights. This is the tip of the iceberg.
  487. Michael McCarthy from Toronto, writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto - The Finch, Canada writes: This is more proof that Canada has to limit immigration from white european countries, and increase immigration from African and Asian countries, Toronto is a bastion of white racism. The only way to overcome this is to import more non-European immigrants.

    Sir, I think you are a little looney toons!
  488. Guitar Player from Vancouver, Canada writes: jomo wanjala from Toronto, Canada writes: "'Anti bullying' policies are fronts for racist expulsion policies.
    Statistically afro-Canadian children are penalized at a higher rate for 'so called bullying' which is often just joking or kidding around in afro-Canadian culture."

    I can only assume either that, as other posters have indicated, your "jomo wanjala" identity misrepresents your own ethnicity and motives for making such an asinine statement, or that you are truly ignorant. Your sweeping generalization about "anti-bullying" policies makes you guilty of exactly the sort of blanket categorizations you complain about here, and in other posts you've made on other stories (yes, I've read them). As it happens, my older son went to a school in which (quite a few years ago now) a group of students targeted another student -- off school grounds -- and killed him, in public. They were charged and prosecuted for homicide, and it turned out that there had been a long history of bullying by the group, against the teenage boy they murdered, and against other students in the school, both on and off the grounds. There were no racial overtones in the case; all the students were local "white" students. Perhaps if the school authorities at the local and provincial level had possessed the intelligence and political will to have proper, fair anti-bullying and anti-violence policies in place, the dead boy would still be alive. Your self-serving stereotypical comments serve nobody, and are insulting to readers who followed these boards in the hopes of finding intelligent discourse that is at least partly free from stupidity, bias and outright bigotry (including reverse and gender-based bigotry).
  489. Clark Kent from Canada writes: Many of these posts crack me up. Decrying racism is fine, but doing that while stoking regionalism is quite laughable. I suppose this is the acceptable arena of hate in Canada.
  490. Dave Jansen - The Progressive Centrist from Canada writes: .

    Hopefully the bully - most likely the son of some angry red-necked conservatives - is put away for a few years to ponder how destructive and pathetic racism is and how it has no place in a liberal society.

    Of course, had the bully been a minority, conservatives across the coast would have been demanding he be sent to an adult prison for 50 years and DEMANDING we halt immigration.

    Silly clownservatives - no wonder you are a laughing stock with your racist 1950's views.
  491. KD Duck from Windsor, Canada writes: I did the same thing in high school. A bully decided to target me too long. I threw him over my back and he hit his head. The teachers laughed at him because he was 6" taller and 30lbs heavier.
    This bully should be the laughing stock of the Province instead of punishing the guy who defended himself. This whole thing is a disgrace.
    Redneck racists should have to take an IQ test to make sure they are above plant life. Maybe toss in the teachers who allowed this to happen in the first place.
  492. Misodzi Sithole from Canada writes: I wonder too what the thinking of the school administrators is. The fact that it took students (more power to them) to force the reversal of the decision means that the hearing on the matter was askewed in favour of the bully from the very word go else the extenuating circumstances would have been acknowledged. This issue is not just how children behave or are raised (although children do not always do what you tell them despite your best efforts) but also the attitude of adminstrators right through the chain. As a new Canadian parent, I am thankful that my children have never had to deal with this but I have educated them on the reality of racism and why and how they have to challenge it. I will thank the students because they give us so much hope for the future of Canada. For those who always speak negatively and in a blanket manner about today's youth, this is the reality of the character of the majority of youth. We should be affirming this more in our stories rather than the concentration on the few with no sense of decency. Also the young man for knowing that evil grows when you do not do anything about it. I also thank the father of the victim for speaking out as most often families suffer in silence and for instilling great values in his son. However the school administration and board stand judged in failing to do what was simple logic until this was exposed by the students.
  493. Misodzi Sithole from Canada writes: And to the School Principal of the school who in another article has argued "'Once again, welcome to our school website. I would encourage you to contact us at (about the anti-bullying I suppose)", it is not enough to post these regulations but to enforce them. In addition, the stonewalling the parents have been subjected to is typical of how parents are shut out by school adminstrators or teachers when they have genuine concerns. Broken English or not, because sadly that is what the victim's mum feels is causing this, parents have a right to be heard. I applaud that these have decided not to back off as the administaration most likely hopes will happen. We have to speak up more on what affects our children's wellbeing. The only reason why there has been something done is the negative publicity. Unfortunately but predictably the Principal is not ruffled because rarely are they held to account by the boards and parents have little say evn on who runs the school. Not that they should exclusively hire but should be part of the process. I would like to believe that Keswick is in the main a decent community whose reputation is being spoiled by a few. Those children who walked out in solidarity with the victim came from families who taught them right and wrong.
  494. P S from Canada writes: Typical bad parenting. The parents of the bully should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go on.

    If that was my punk kid I would instruct the police to drop all charges, personally apologize to the other kid's parents, and tell my kid he's lucky he didn't get more than a broken nose by messing with a black belt.
  495. Sue W from Canada writes: Bullying for whatever reason is wrong.

    And a kid defends himself against a bully.

    But would there have been such an uproar if the two kids had been of the same race?
  496. G Look from Markham, Canada writes: I like to offer my services to the School and Police as a Korean/English translator as they clearly do not undertand the Korean boys side of the story. I heard that story is making the rounds in the US and in Korea, maybe the international pressure will force the School an dthe Police to "do the right thing"
  497. Jay Dubya from Toronto, Canada writes: Hurray!!! The Bully learned a lesson here.

    Most of the time the school bully gets away with these things and the victim does speak uo for fear of more victimization.

    Good on, the Bully hear got his just desserts.

    Shame on the school and police for blowing this thing up - at most all they should have spoken to the parents. Shame on them.
  498. John Frum from Mississauga, Canada writes: What kind of screwball policy shows perpetrators of racial terrorism that their methods could result in the expulsion of their targets? "C'mon down fellas, it's a free for all."

    The victim should be treated like the exemplary student he is: an overachieving hero who treats others well, but when mistreated makes his act of last recourse count.

    What's needed here is a suspension for the chief of police and an expulsion of the school principal, not to mention the bully. The problem now is that the administrators, despite being cowards, want to be the ones in control who wield all the power. If they ever wake up they'll be ashamed of themselves.
  499. Richard F., Toronto from Canada writes: Thanks to Pot/Kettle for suggesting a message to the school admin. Here's what I wrote.
    >>>>>
    To whom it may concern,

    Shame on the administration at Keswick H.S., but kudos for the students who stood up for Social Justice. They seemed to have learned something in spite of your disappointing example.

    Violence is never a good response, but until we have completely replaced it with rationality, and completely removed the poor example our wars and hatred set world-wide, it will continue to be a natural response to persecution. I hope the administration at Keswick H.S. has come to understand that racial slurs are as much a form of violence as a punch on the nose. Blind, uncritical adherence to policy is the domain of cowards.

    My Name
    (past member, OCT)
  500. A McUrrie from East York, Canada writes: Give the town a break. 1 or two racist bullies versus 400 marching in support of the Korean student. I think the 400 says a lot more about Keswick than the bullies ever could.
  501. G Hall from Canada writes: This is funny.. if you go to the KHS homepage they have an "zero tolerance" anti-bullying policy that they obviously don't follow..

    http://www.keswick.hs.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/
  502. Cut The Crap from Canada writes: Small towns can be notoriously racist. I lived in one for 10 years and I heard unchallenged racist slurs regularly.

    In my experience, small town = small mind.

    If you are growing up in a small town, leave as soon as you can so that you can expand your experiences and your mind.
    .
  503. The Lord of the Nazgul from Markham, Canada writes: Good for you kid. I had to deal with this type of crap when I was growing up. I applaud you for standing up for yourself. A good old fashioned butt-kicking.

    As for the bully...good luck in the future! You'll forever be known as the kid who opened his BFM and got it shut with a "Reverse Front Punch"...:D
  504. The Iconoclast from Canada writes: Keswick should be very proud of the 400 students......as for the school administrators, shame on you.
  505. Bake McBride from Vancouver, Canada writes: Sometimes a single incident brought to light becomes the impetus for change. I'm fairly confident that justice will prevail because I think most of the town knows what's right and wrong.
  506. _ Rangzin from Canada writes: I wrote to the school and the scool district too.
  507. Rani Das from Canada writes: Thanks for the info Joe Garcia. I'm going to write to the school.
  508. Bill Schemmel from Medina, United States writes: I was so disappointed reading this article on the internet (via robot filter). Disappointed, because it spoiled my perception of Canada being a bastion of tolerance. A little naive, I know, but I have an idealistic perception of your beautiful country. Judging from the other comments left by readers, though, I see the vast majority do respect the rights of others and I am heartened. As a US citizen, I am sorely aware of multiple prejudices and intolerances rained down upon minorities in my country. I'm glad the teen in this article was able to defend himself in a way that was true to his uprbringing. Despite his mastery of the bully, his humility was obvious. A good lesson for us all. Now, I hope this situation is resolved in a fair manner.
  509. A Calgarian from Canada writes: I think the Korean family should move to multicultural Toronto. It's not a matter of proving yourself to be a true Canadian.

    The father should start a karate school and I am willing to bet business will be booming.

    Personally, I know a few "white folks" who had moved away from Keswick over the last several years.
  510. EX Banker from Toronto, Canada writes: As a victim of racism some 30 years ago, this is no surprise to me. I too was beaten up to pulp. I resorted to learning martial arts to fend for myself.

    Like it or not, Keswick is racist town. When the victim is charged for defending himself, you know the justice system is biased.
  511. Under Dawg from United States writes: This is a sad story, and bullying is occurring more and more often. We really need to be more pro-active in dealing with bullying. I have helped to form a site called "Totally Not True" to deal with bullying, cyber-bulling, and false rumors. Maybe if we get more involved and speak out, we can make a difference.
  512. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Dear "S B from Canada";

    It is too bad you are not able to fully follow a short post. My point, and that of the url I provided, was that racists, bullies and other idiots can find any reason to hate. It doesn't take much, just some difference no matter how slight and they are off and running.

    It isn't a white thing, a black thing, a yellow thing or an urban / small town thing. It is sheer stupidity and ugliness. ALL groups discriminate against outsiders to some extent (the point of the url). It isn't right and it sure ain't fair. But until we recognize the issue as a personal issue it will never be dealt with.

    School administrators try to avoid dealing with the problem because it is difficult and messy. The police don't deal well with it because they are a reactive not a proactive group, and a lot of what they see at work on a daily basis desensitizes them to the issue.

    Racism, inequality, charity etc.. Take your pick, they all start at home. The solution does as well.

    Take care.....
  513. backward country from Canada writes: Prejudice, discrimination and Racism, these are the attribute of most Caucasian people, like it or not, it's the way it is. Look, at this case, the Poooooolice and the school administration... clearly we know where they stand... charging the Asian kid for this when the white kid made racial taunts, threw the first punch and the Asian kid defended himself... and he gets criminally charged ?! It's a disgrace and embarrassing how white people are treated so differently when it come to justice and it's mostly in favor of them.

    As a remember, let's take a look of some of Canada's past racist history and how there was injustice to them and the Caucasians got away with it.

    1) First Nation Residential School Abuse and Deaths
    2) Chinese Head Tax and Exclusion Act by the government
    3) SLAVERY

    As for Keswick and area up there... NIPPER TIPPING and racism are obviously your hobbies.

    The police who charged the Asian kid is a disgrace and pathetic as so for the school administration!!!

    Unbelievable. Backward indeed.
  514. Frank Green from Vancouver, Canada writes: I just went to the Keswick High School website to find their email address and this it what I found....
    The mission of the York Region District School Board is: "we unite in our purpose to inspire and prepare learners for life in our changing world community."

    Let me get this straight....the school board thinks allowing students to bully a minority is preparing them for life.....brilliant !
  515. John Birch from Canada writes: I guess we need more Koreans and fewer Northern European caucasians in this country.

    I say send the white bully back to England or France, or wherever his family came from. We don't need this kind of racist crap in my country.
  516. geraldine veleti from MILAN, Italy writes: Well i tried to write an email to the school and guess what. Unless you use their link the emails bounce right back. So i used their link and wrote them what i think of their decision and how theyhandled this bully problem. I WONDER WHY THE EMAILS KEEP BOUNCING BACK THOUGH. HUUUMMMMMMM.
  517. John Birch from Canada writes: I gotta agree with Jomo on this one: "bullying' policies are fronts for racist expulsion policies."

    Given that white folks primarily run the school system -simply because there are more of them than anyone else right now, it is easier for them to pick out non-white bullies than it is picking out white ones, and the problem is quite rooted in the fact that they can identify with white people moreson than non-whites.

    That isn't to say that non-whites don't bully. Bullies come in all shapes, sizes and colors, but it is simply easier to pick out the minority bullies than it is the majority bullies, hence minorities are tossed out in greater numbers than majority bullies.

    In this case, the real problem is the white kid's parents. Kids don't learn that kind of racist crap unless someone at home is displaying. Clearly, this white kid is a poor reflection on his parent's abilities...or maybe I should say parent in the singular.
  518. Kim Bastin from Keswick, Canada writes: Yes, I live in Keswick... having escaped the war zone that Scarborough became in the '90's. Our little lakeside town has doubled in size in the past two decades due to people who choose to live here for the environment and small-town atmosphere. My son attends Keswick High and took part in the protest on Monday, and I could not be prouder of this group of young people. I am very disturbed by the comments made about the "redneck" community we live in. These youths have been raised in Keswick and very obviously display the good values and integrity that has been instilled in them by their parents, their schools and their community. The actions, in this case of two individuals, resulting in labelling a community as redneck white trash is every bit as damaging as the racist remarks that sparked this whole debate. Let's not lose sight of the reason for the protest in the first place. Racist behaviour, stereotypes and bullying must not be tolerated by ANYONE and the school board has received a clear message that their actions must reflect what is just, not what is written in a rule book somewhere. The police are doing the honourable thing by revisiting the case upon receiving more information than they likely were given initially.
  519. geraldine veleti from MILAN, Italy writes: Hoe can our children grow up to be responsible, fair, honest citizens. when this is the example they are given. The students at the high school that protested in favour of the asian student victimized by a bully are giving the a great example to their high school principle. to the police. the school board . I thought it was supposed to be the other way around. GOOD FOR THE STUDENTS. SHAME TO THE PRINCIPAL AND ANYONE INVOLVED IN EXPELLING AND CHARGING THE ASIAN STUDENT AND NOT THE BULLY.
  520. John Birch from Canada writes: I agree with Kim Bastin's recent post. There are a lot of uprooted GTA'ers who've moved to Kez over the past decade trying to capture that small town feel....and you can certainly tell which ones they are since they have the newer homes, or have renovated the nice downtown homes.

    I think the problem lay with the old-school, long-time Keswickers, who not only give the place a bad name, but also tend to resent people like Ms. Bastin for being a newbie of sorts. I've been through Kez enough to be able to point out where the rednecks reside, and you can tell it from the story because the bully's cousin got in the good kid's face after the fact.

    That tells me that this problem lies with a long-time extended family who likely thinks that the alphabet ends after "L", and can't wait for summer to resume drinking homebrew, growing weed in the swamps, and going nipper-tipping on weekends.

    Thank god the new blood isn't as crass as the long-timers and their "worldview".
  521. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: John Birch,

    If you agree with Kim Bastin's post, how come you continue to spew the same crap as you did in your previous posts?

    The 400 students who protested were all raised in Keswick, this fine centre of racism that you seem to perceive. Obvously the people of this town have done something right in raising the children. Oh, and as the population is primarily white, it seems to be that some of these racists have "seem the light" and taught their children to stand up for what is right even if the adults hid behind the rules (school administration) or didn't bother to check out the whole story in the first place (the police).

    Kim, may I compliment you on your raising a fine son. He has done you proud.
  522. Tula Tam from Selkirk, MB, Canada writes: he should have had a baton:

    http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/090501/K050102AU.html
  523. Ray Heard from Canada writes: This fine young Korean-Canadian has to be nominated for a high award for his courage. He is a hero. Nelson Mandela, an Honourary Canadian, would be proud of him! So, I bet would Obama. Sometimes, I cry for this beloved country.
  524. The Iconoclast from Canada writes: Thank you, Kim Bastin and parents of the 400 students for helping to make Keswick and Canada a better place.
  525. Joe Wheeler from Victoria, Canada writes: Many of these comments have correctly highlighted the question of why the original attacker has not been charged. In the other G&M article on this, a hate crime investigator is looking into this. Good, but this narrows down the reasons for charging the bully to whether or not he was committing a hate crime. Yes that is a concern, but all one needs in settled law is to know the basics of assault. The bully hit first, his 'victim' happened to be more effective in defending himself in kind, yet it is the victim who is suspended and facing criminal charges.

    Any good lawyer could get the Korean boy off easily in court on the grounds of self-defence. Further, there then are grounds for civil action for wrongful arrest, wrongful prosecution, abuse of process and failure to prosecute (the bully). The suit could involve the school, the parents of the bully, and even the police, seeking financial damages for the wrongs (in the case of the police, one would have to go through the police complaint procedure). In other words, the Korean boy and his family have already been damaged and wrongfully charged, they are due financial compensation and a formal apology. Once justice generally has been restored, then it might be relevant to go into the hate crime aspect. If school and police authorities bogart on charging the bully simply with the assault let alone the hate aspects, such abdication of authority, beyond being sued, should be probed in a public inquiry. Incidentally, the cousin of the bully who repeated the racial slur to the Korean boy the next day should also be charged or sued for threatening/intimidation and common assault (one need not strike a blow to commit a common assault, it is enough that a verbal or physical gesture caused the victim to fear being hurt).
  526. Fred Schaad from Kelowna, Canada writes: The school's position on this matter couldn't possibly be more wrong. There should be zero tolerance for bullying and there should be zero tolerance for racism at the school. All people; especially, children MUST have the right to defend themselves and protect themselves from harm and that may mean using using necessary force to do so. If the school allows this victim of blatant racism to be driven away to search for a new school to attend, that only serves to reward the perpetrator of the crime. Don't reward racism and bullying by [b]expelling the VICTIM[/b].
  527. Laura Dover from CALGARY, Canada writes: What the police did wasn't necessarily racist. It was just bad police work. (It is possible that this was due to racism, but not 100% clear.) The Korean kid sounds like a really great person, and it was nice to hear about all the students supporting him.
  528. Jonathan Schaper from Australia writes: geraldine veleti from MILAN, Italy wrote: "Well i tried to write an email to the school and guess what. Unless you use their link the emails bounce right back."

    Two possibilities: 1) they have been so flooded with angry emails that their mailbox capacity is full, or 2) they have been so flooded with angry emails that they have deliberately blocked their inbox. Either way, I encourage you to keep trying.
  529. buzz barry from Melbourne Aus., Canada writes: Nam Ja,

    Com som ha me da. Kap she da, Korea.

    Peace.

  530. Matthew McKenzie from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: Sadly this is all too common in our justice system. The thug goes and commits a crime, and when they get in trouble they play the victim. Too many people have been getting lax sentences because of this.

    There is a huge problem when the bully thug is not being charged but the victim who defended himself is. Someone's head should roll in this, maybe the principals.

    As far as I am concerned this bully got exactly what he deserved. In fact he should be thankful all he got was a broken nose. This bully should be suspended and looking for a new school, not the victim.
  531. Neoupa 2002 from Toronto, Canada writes: I give this Korean student a pat on the back for doing his job. He did the right thing in my opinion.

    Altough, many people, especially ones that live in towns/rural areas away from the city, still tend to make mistakes on what ethinical background people are frequently even though we live in a multi-cultural country (from past experience. I am Chinese and have been refered to as Korean, Japanese, Thai and even Malaysian while visiting rural/towns far away from the city).

    For your own curiousity:

    If this Korean student used his right hand instead of his left, the white bully would have gotten, literally a headshot, knocked unconsious and most likely a bad concussion. A few asian self-defense styles require you unless your life is in immediate danger, to only use your left, or weaker hand to strike your opponent.
  532. tulip7 R from Canada writes: The bully should be charged with assault.
  533. Mike B from Canada writes: Good for the Asian kid. I'd a punched him in the nose too... It's the Canadian thing to do! The police and school officials should be ashamed of themselves. The only thing this kid was guilty of was winning the fight.
  534. Johnny Tokyo from Bangkok, Thailand writes: @Asian Kid & Family: Stay! Please. Canadians need you and people like you more than they know. Oh yeah; get a good lawyer and sue the pants off these biker-loving racist bushwhacker Keswick cops. And White Kid Bully? Stay in the fight. Don't give up. I want to see what's left of you and your kind after you get "the rinse" that's surely coming to you.
  535. John Birch from Canada writes: Canadian Pragmatist:

    "If you agree with Kim Bastin's post, how come you continue to spew the same crap as you did in your previous posts?"

    What crap would you be refering to, ma'am?

    "The 400 students who protested were all raised in Keswick, this fine centre of racism that you seem to perceive."

    What proof do you have to verify this statement? I've been to Keswick, and there are fine, upstanding people and a few slumdogs. I can't tell the new ones from the old ones, and I know that a bunch of kids are bussed into the school too, so not everyone is likely a Keswickian. My animus is with the racists, so if that is so upsetting, then close your eyes when it comes to my posts. The bottom line is that I agree with Ms. Bastin that there are many fine people in the town too, not just disgusting, in-bred, empty-headed Norther-European Caucasian racist vermin like others make the whole town out to be.
  536. J Coulman from Canada writes: Kim Bastin from Keswick, Canada writes: Yes, I live in Keswick... having escaped the war zone that Scarborough became in the '90's. Our little lakeside town has doubled in size in the past two decades due to people who choose to live here for the environment and small-town atmosphere. My son attends Keswick High and took part in the protest on Monday, and I could not be prouder of this group of young people. I am very disturbed by the comments made about the "redneck" community we live in. These youths have been raised in Keswick and very obviously display the good values and integrity that has been instilled in them by their parents, their schools and their community. The actions, in this case of two individuals, resulting in labelling a community as redneck white trash is every bit as damaging as the racist remarks that sparked this whole debate. Let's not lose sight of the reason for the protest in the first place. Racist behaviour, stereotypes and bullying must not be tolerated by ANYONE and the school board has received a clear message that their actions must reflect what is just, not what is written in a rule book somewhere. The police are doing the honourable thing by revisiting the case upon receiving more information than they likely were given initially. Thank you Kim for speaking on behalf of the kids at Keswick High - as well as other "Keswickians" who do not support racism, bullying or stereotypes! I was reading through all these comments and thinking that we (folks who live in Keswick) were all being painted with the same brush. We are not all redneck hicks and white trash!! We as a community are very proud of our young adults at Keswick High School on many occasions - as well as this one.
  537. Cynthia Kennedy from Canada writes: I mentioned earlier in a post of how proud I am of the students who protested but again want to ask the ADULTS of Keswick, what they are doing about the situation? It is one thing to be proud of these kids but clearly another to act. They need your support especially if the school administrators and law enforcement authorities are not taking action.

    I myself do not live there but will do my part in writing to the appropriate contacts. I am copying below the contacts that a previous poster (simply sanj) provided above to encourage others to do the same.

    CATHERINE McGINLEY
    Principal
    Keswick high school
    keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    York Regional Police Department
    Armand P. La Barge
    Chief of Police
    info@yrp.ca

    It is up to all of us to make sure these things do not happen and when they do, do not continue to happen.
  538. Katherine R from Canada writes: Sadly, I don't think such incidents are that rare in small town Canada. Part of the reason why I choose to live in a city is to be in a more tolerant, mixed environment.
  539. J A from Ottawa, Canada writes: I am not white and I have suffered this kind of treatment ever since the first moment when I set foot in Canada (yes, right at the airport). No matter how bad the injustice is, you will never win in this country because you are not white.

    If I were this student and his family, I would save my time, energy and money and move out of Keswick right away. That region has already got lots of racist incident (nipper dipper, etc.) and nothing will change it. I would either move to a big city or back to Korea.
  540. Kim Bastin from Keswick, Canada writes: John Birch - I think you are mis-interpreting my comment, as well as those by Canadian Pragmatist. I did not say anything to the effect that long-time residents are the issue. I have lived here nearly 20 years and would not have stayed in a community that is as you portray to raise my family.

    Your previous posts include stereotyping single parents, Northern Europeans, people from England and France, those who cannot afford to live in a newer home, those who have the misfortune of a lesser education, and anyone who has lived in Keswick longer than a decade as racists. Perhaps that wasn't your intent? Please don't let the actions of a handful of people tarnish the reputation of the general population.
  541. C R from Canada writes: From what I've so far read from this situation, the Principle and possibly the Vice Principle need to be fired. That is a start.
  542. C R from Canada writes: And yes, gotta say that was terrible police work, if that what it really was. I hope that is all it was. Those charges should be reversed. I'm seeing it too often in this country these days where our authority figures make gross errors and then they go full forward as though to give an impression of complete justification rather than do the responsible thing and fess up to mistakes made.
  543. C R from Canada writes: As for the community, there is obviously decency there with having the 400 kids stand up and do the right thing with their protest. This situation needs to be cleaned up.
  544. Canadian Pragmatist from Canada writes: Kim Bastin, Thank you for another excellent post. Stereotyping any group is wrong whether the group is white OR non-white. Labeling people due to economic circumstances is not right. Perhaps Mr. Birch doesn't realize that his throwing of labels is as much a part of the problem as the bully and his cousin. Labels allow you to excuse your bad behavior because those other people are not like you. It is the start of the slippery slope to racism and has been used to justify horrible things done to others. The only important things to come from all of this are: 1) a young man did what was right and defended himself; 2) a father is teaching his son to be a strong man and not run away and to work to make society better and finally, 3) a town's children stood up and said no to what is a wrong being down to a fellow human being. No labels, just that this is wrong and should be stoped. Maybe some of the so called adults on this forum can use this as a learning moment. Hate comes in all shapes and sizes, races and creeds. It is everywhere in the world. But it is better to light a candle than curse the darkness. In Keswick, one young boy, his family and there 400 supporters have lit a whole lot of candles. Maybe the rest of us could light a few....
  545. The Iconoclast from Canada writes: "Catherine McGinley, was recommending the discipline committee mete out the harshest possible punishment when it meets on May 13. She asked that the 15-year-old be expelled not just from Keswick High, but from all schools in York region."
    ---------------------------

    This school principal must be insane and probably the biggest racist of them all. She must be held accountable for her inept handling of the situation. I ask that she be expelled not just from Keswich High, but from all schools in Canada.
  546. Major Pain from Canada writes: Were one of my kids to react to such bullying in the same way as this kid, I would pat them on the back and tell them that they did a great job and had nothing to apologize for. It looks like the adult residents of Keswick could learn a few things from their teenagers. I applaud those 400 students in the school who took action when no adults were willing to. And people say teenagers today have no compass...
  547. D S from Richmond Hill, Canada writes: Hopefully, if it does get to trial, the judge will throw this out. I can't believe the prosecutor will accept this case. Parents and Students of Keswick High School - this is what you should do:

    - go to your local Justice of the Peace, and file a private charge of assault against the bully. If he has bullied and assaulted 10 kids, file 10 separate assault charges. -If you are certain this bully has in the past been reported and never reprimanded, file negligence charges against the principal.
    - Complain to your mayor, your school trustees, and the police chief. The OPP or York Region Police headquarters needs to investigate the local police force.

    Perhaps a fair minded lawyer can, on behalf of the bullied children of Keswick, sue the school, school board, and the principal.

    This school, without disrespect to the students, is near rock bottom in provincial testing. No wonder, if bullies can run amok and apparently with full support of administrators, while top students get expelled and charged for defending themselves. That is management's fault. The Ontario Government really needs to examine how this school is being run.
  548. P C from Winnipeg, Canada writes: The assault charges should be dropped immediately. Many job and professional school applications ask if you have ever been charged or convicted of a criminal offence. This kid has a potentially great future that could be hobbled by a criminal record.

    Bravo to the students of Keswick High for uncovering and protesting against this injustice.

    I suspect that the Principal, Catherine McGinley will be looking for a new job soon.
  549. Vic QT from Hamilton, Canada writes: It is shameful to hear of such racism exists in our country today at a general level, and more particularly in our school system that is suppose to be educating the brighter minds of future generations to come.

    For reading some of the previous comments, however, it looks as though some of us "adults" do not fair much better - ignorance and prejudice - does not discriminate between ages.

    The fact that 'racism' still occurs in our wonderful country today, makes me somewhat sadden to be Canadian, but on the other hand, it could be worst ... imagine being a "Keswickians"!
  550. Rani Das from Canada writes: I'm appalled at this fresh information regarding the principal, Catherine McGinley, who apparently tried to get the kid expelled from all schools in the York region. It's like something out of In the Heat of the Night or Mississippi Burning.
  551. Joseph T from Victoria, Canada writes: This article must warm Alice Shiv's cold heart.
  552. joe garcia from Canada writes: Catherine McGinley is obviously a biggot and a racist.
  553. joe garcia from Canada writes: To: J Coulman & Kim Bastin from Keswick:

    If you truly believe that being labelled as a redneck bastion for intolerance and bigotry by Canadians than have been contributing to this thread from Coast to Coast, than you should ask yourselves how it could have come to this?

    To all the people of Keswick I ask this: what is your opinion on how your High School Principal handled this situation? Do you support the Principle’s action?

    The actions from the Keswick High School Principal and her Vice Principal are appalling and absolutely upsetting. If you agree with her stance, than your community most definitely deserves the label it’s been given. If the adults of Keswick do not identify with her stance than what are you doing about it ???
  554. A. S. from Canada writes: How things have changed! I have been in one fight all my life. March 1982. I was in grade eight, was a bit of a wimp, and there was one guy at school who was always teasing me. One day he went a bit too far and shoved me in the face — hitting me right on the braces. With my inner lip cut slightly, I literally saw red. I landed one punch on his face — knocked him out cold for about five minutes (no broken bones, thank God). This happened just before class, so everyone saw it. After investigating the whole thing the principal, an old man of the old Canadian school, concluded I was perfectly justified, but the other guy's punishment was the knockout. It was smoothed over with the parents; afterwards I was given respect — and got some self-respect, too.

    What would have happened today? Expulsion and/or charges, probably. The public schools are CREATING a culture of snitching wimps — and bullies.

    In my little incident there wasn't even a racial angle. God, I feel for the poor Korean kid.

    And his principal, I am sorry, just doesn't sound like much of a man to me.

    Fighting is not good, but there are things worse than fighting.
  555. A. S. from Canada writes: Oops, the principal was a woman -- my error. Not much of a man indeed! But on a more serious note, perhaps it does take a MAN to appreciate a justified fight.
  556. John Birch from Canada writes: This is from the other Globe story on this fight: "His father said the school doesn't seem to understand the impact of the racial comment. Afterward, a vice-principal asked his son why a Korean was upset about being called Chinese." Spoken like a true Canadian Caucasian. Always wondering why the minority kid gets so upset by these "little things". As if I hadn't heard this line coming from Caucasian authority figures for decades now...and our Caucasian neighbours wonder why the non-whites are so "sensitive". Add this to the "first response" letter the principal wrote trying to blacklist a kid without a history of violence and a 90 average, but whose prime offence was a failure to be white, and we get to see a little of what Canada is really like to those who commit the crime of not being white. On the other hand, white privilege is certainly exercised in protecting the racist bully...and still no charges laid, nor a suspension, nor a letter blacklisting him for starting a fight and using racist terms to provoke minority students. Bastin and others are right in that this isn't a Keswick thing, but rather an exercise into the mindset of Northern-European Caucasians. Maybe Keswick can ask Gary McHale to come up and help them.
  557. fergus macduff from United Kingdom writes: what did the korean kid do to instigate the first punch and the so called slur. seems to me soem facts are not on the table. maybe he is not so innocent...
  558. Geoff M from Gangelt-Birgden, Germany writes: I encourage everyone to write to the Minister of Education for Ontario [Wynne, Hon. Kathleen) and Cc the deputy Minister (Ben.Levin). There seem to be something lacking in this school. The Principle obviously need some more diversity training and to be counselled on disciplinary problems and the rite course of action.

    And for Gods sake, expel that slacked mouth bully and his cousin.

    Write the Minister and encourage her to set things rite

    kwynne.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org

    www.edu.gov.on.ca

    [Wynne, Hon. Kathleen O] [ Minister ] [416-325-2600]

    Ben.Levin@ontario.ca
    [Levin, Ben] [ Deputy Minister ] [416-325-2600]

    Good job Karate Kid
  559. J F from Canada writes: The mental picture of Trailer Park Keswick's collective drunks and whores manning the Bastions to guard against asian newcomers is too funny.
    Turn down the lights and close the LCBO so their brains can dry out on top their scrawny chicken necks.
    Thank God most of Keswick's new generation kids have the courage to question this dumb action.
  560. Misery No one from Toronto, Canada writes: Your right to hit me stops at the end of my nose
  561. Jim Saxon from Toronto, Canada writes: It's not why kids fought - A jerk will always find someone to take his frustrations out. If it wasn't racial, it would have been against a Jew, fat boy, small boy, academically bright boy, poor boy, rich boy, etc. It's the reaction of the Principal and the Cops involved that needs to be put under a microscope. For far too long, we have let the wolves manage the hen-house - it's time to put them in their place - outside the civil society.
  562. A Doomedhuman from Canada writes: School yard fight - one broken nose. Cost to taxpayers - $100,000
    I feel like punching some bureaucrats in the nose!
  563. backward country from Canada writes: @ fergus macduff from United Kingdom writes: "what did the korean kid do to instigate the first punch and the so called slur. seems to me soem facts are not on the table. maybe he is not so innocent..."

    Man...spoken like a true white man, unbelievable.. you still don't get it ?? You must be really dense indeed.
  564. A Calgarian from Canada writes: If the bully did indeed say "F..king Chinese", I am almost certain the Chinese community in the GTA will be very upset. There are more than a few Chinese in the 905 area (yes, I know where Keswick is but Richmond Hill, Markham are very much within "striking distance".

    If I am a politician, I would jump on this golden opportunity without any delay or hesitation to denounce racism and to enhance my political profile. Then again, we all know how dumb some politicians are.

    Kathleen Wynne's riding is Don Valley West, yes, quite a large Jewish community within that riding. No to mention Chinese and yes, quite a few affluent Koreans.
  565. J. Hangdog from Canada writes: Kudos and shame as ascribed by most of the posters above.

    But I do have a problem with the term "white trash". Just because somebody's poor and ignorant doesn't make him "garbage". We can recognize the ugliness of incident and work eliminate racism and ignorance without dehumanizing people.
  566. George BrownIII from Christmas Island writes: How funny an unworthy, ineffective and incompetent principal wants to expell the harassed and assaulted kid out of York region for self defense.
    This principal should be herself be suspended then fired for her own bigotry. Or will the schoolboard sent the message minorities are not welcome in York region.
  567. hall tingley from Canada writes: As a resident of Beaverton, Ontario (another smallish town close by Keswick) I must say that the parents of the Keswick students that have come to the support of the accused should be very proud.

    Let's hope that those managing the process going forward, school and legal authorities, the students and the students' parents are able to turn this ugly incident into something positive for all concerned.

    Hopefully, the press will continue to closely monitor this story as it should provide a pretty good learning experience for all of us!
  568. A Calgarian from Canada writes: J. Hangdog from Canada, I think a lot of the posters here are over reacting a bit.

    I personally have quite a few friends living in small rural areas, believe it or not, one of them has a total population of 300. Most of the inhabitants are actually quite friendly but have never seen a "foreigner" in their lives. I wouldn't generalize about the entire population in a small town as "white trash" myself, as evidenced by the 400 students who showed their support for the student of Korean decent and his parents the other day.

    Having said all that, if the alleged bully did mutter something with a racial overtone, hurting BOTH the Korean and the Chinese population ... sorry, he is "trash" ... PERIOD. If you don't agree, ask Hu & Wen (who are they?).

    Just when Harper and Day were trying their utmost to mend our relation with China. now this!

    Last year when the Ontario Premier was in China, he was all smiles with all those trade contracts crystallized. I would be doing some intense reflections before taking the next trip over there.
  569. backward country from Canada writes: ... "The vice-principal asked the Korean was upset about being called Chinese."...

    First of all, VP of Keswick High School.. he was called 'F...king Chinese'... you are indeed totally ignorant, bigot and racist, just like the principal and the POOOOOOLICE upset their in Keswick.

    They should all all charged including the white punk for stupidity, small minded backward mindset, and blatant discrimination and bigotry. This will never happened, since they are all WHITE. Of course the non-white person, in this case the wrongly convicted Korean kid, is ONLY ONE who got charged of this disgusting event.

    Double standards and white privilege and justice. Yes, very indeed.
  570. Jim Saxon from Toronto, Canada writes: Please do not go totally overboard - "Trash" and stuff for the whole community. Those 400 kids who stood up for the accused kid must have had good parenting at home. A bright light should shine on the conduct of the wolves (Principal, Vice Principal and the cops) managing the hen-house.....
  571. George BrownIII from Christmas Island writes: To DS from Richmond Hill, the police investigating the police, man what wrong with the water in the Region of York?
  572. M D from Kesiwick, Canada writes: As a student at KHS, I can pretty well verify that the boy in question is a good one. He was in band class with me... it's too bad, because I think his suspension goes through two concerts we are playing.
    I think the protest was the biggest student-organized event we've ever really had, and it really pulled people together. There are rumors that the guy who organized the protest on Jack's behalf has been suspended also, because he did, after all, rally everybody to essentially 'skip' four periods of school.
    Not all of Keswick is racist. It's like anywhere, really. There are idiots who go around punching people for no particular reason, and there are people who maintain over ninety percent averages, jobs, and extra curricular activities. Students at KHS may not be as 'outstanding' as in other schools, but unlike other students we have many more chances to take a wrong turn. It's an environment that prepares you for the real world, where not everybody is perfect, and the environment that will either make or destroy you.
  573. Bob Loblaw from Canada writes: .

    Join this facebook group - If there was no protest in keswick
    this victim would have an aggrevated assault charge and suspension.
    The High School and York Region Police must be held accountable

    Facebook Group-----------------------------
    Keswick High School - Support the real victim

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  574. R C from Toronto, Canada writes: I have some familiarity with Keswick - and it certainly has a reputation as a "redneck" place - it's encouraging to know that all those students rallied to support this Korean boy! Hopefully the racist boy and his backward parents will become more isolated and eventually grow up.
  575. One Ton from T'ranna, Canada writes: I applaud this kid. Our laws and the behavior of the police keep veering more and more in the direction of "when you are being assaulted, either run away or just take it - it's our job to resolve the issue, and if you try, you'll be punished". These are the same cops who tazer freely, and (if you live in Edmonton) think smashing a 20-something girls teeth out on the pavement is an acceptable use of force.

    Bullies will not back down from a fight - and anyone who has ever been assaulted knows that the person assaulting them wants the violence. Unless you can run fast enough there is no way of talking them down, and grown-up bullies know this because they'll have been getting away with it for years. Most self-defense courses make this clear - and also make it clear that sometimes your best option is to get over your fear, and put the bully down so you CAN get away. Martial Arts (which this kid has some experience in) were created in Asia so that poor people could defend themselves from oppressors (Tai Chi using the enemy's energy against them - apparently particularly good when dealing with soldiers on horseback). From everything I have read on this, the kid and his parents were well aware of the defensive nature of what he had learned, and he was restrained enough to only strike back with one punch. If it had been me, I would probably not have been so composed.

    I'm not suggesting vigilantism of any sort, but I am completely aghast that this child is being persecuted. When I hear stories about this kind of racist nonsense, I keep thinking of the TV image of the smirking louts who got off scott-free after murdering Stephen Lawrence in London England in the 1990's, and how badly the police treated the victim's family for years after his death. If we don't get our act together, we could be headed in that direction a LOT sooner than we think.
  576. One Ton from T'ranna, Canada writes: And one more idea - compulsory martial arts training in schools. Teach kids control, restraint and honour - and make it clear to them that if they EVER use violence against someone in any way other than self defense, they will never gain any kind of social acceptance.
  577. The Iconoclast from Canada writes: M D from Kesiwick, Canada writes: As a student at KHS, I can pretty well verify that the boy in question is a good one. He was in band class with me... it's too bad, because I think his suspension goes through two concerts we are playing.
    I think the protest was the biggest student-organized event we've ever really had, and it really pulled people together.
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    M D, you and your friends are doing the right and honourable thing. Too bad your school principal is not as sensible. Keep up the good fight.
  578. Rani Das from Canada writes: Bravo M D, to you and your fellow protesters. I hope the Korean kid, and the kid who organized the protest, are aware of how much support they have.
  579. John Birch from Canada writes: "fergus macduff from United Kingdom writes: "what did the korean kid do to instigate the first punch and the so called slur."

    Apparently, he committed the heinous act of being non-white, and then further aggravated the situation by appearing to be an easy mark for the disgusting, white piece of filth bully to manhandle.

    Then the vile, disgusting, verminous white bully got his nose out of joint after making his initial attack.

    Eventually, the white principal and vice-principal were so disgusted by the Korean victim's defense of himself that they tried to have him banished from every school in York Region, while at the same time villifying him for going "overboard" by reacting poorly when his racist white peer called him a "name" and threw the first punch.

    Well, if I were awhite Canadian, that's how I'd see things.
  580. anonymous in Ont from Canada writes: Kudo's to the 400 kids for doing the 'right thing'. As for the police & the principal, both of them need to be investigated & held acccountable for gross negligence of duty. I plan to contact our ministry of ED, the school & York police. This type of bigotry should not be tolerated. Also have to wonder who this bully kid is related/connected to in order to get away with this type of behaviour with no repercussions. To the Korean kid, hold your head up proudly you've done nothing wrong but defend yourself & congrats on your great grades as well. Your parents did a great job raising you!
  581. Emilio Garazgos from Kanata, Canada writes: fergus macduff from United Kingdom writes: what did the korean kid do to instigate the first punch and the so called slur. seems to me soem facts are not on the table. maybe he is not so innocent...
    ==========

    Right, Fergus. The Korean kid should apologise to the White kid for having the audacity have been Oriental and thereby deserving of the racial slur which "insitgated "the incident.

    The Korean kid should also apologise for being so clumsy as to smash his mouth up against the White bully's fist.

    Both of these points relating to the incident which led to the Korean kid poking the White bully's nose were mentioned in the G&M story, points which I and apparently hundreds of other readers posting to this forum had no problem seeing.

    It's curious how you, Fergus MacDuff managed to not see those points but instead, managed to see the Korean kid as the one at fault.

  582. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Both groups deserve each other. The thought of a Korean/Chinese victimized by racism is total nonsense.

    Some of the most racist, intolerant, xenophobic people you can ever encounter in any endeavour in this life are Asians(Chinese/Koreans/Indians).

    Talk of the kettle calling the pot black.

    The only good that could possibly come from this is that we are forced to take a good hard look at ourselves. The Asian kid does look good in this case, but that is not frequently the case !!

    Also, what is it with Asians and stealing of fish. They are in Somali waters stealing fish, they are also frequently over-fishing in Keswick. You make your own luck in this life. Seems to me like certain types think they are above the law.

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  583. backward country from Canada writes: @ Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Both groups deserve each other. The thought of a Korean/Chinese victimized by racism is total nonsense.

    Some of the most racist, intolerant, xenophobic people you can ever encounter in any endeavour in this life are Asians(Chinese/Koreans/Indians).

    Talk of the kettle calling the pot black.

    The only good that could possibly come from this is that we are forced to take a good hard look at ourselves. The Asian kid does look good in this case, but that is not frequently the case !!

    Also, what is it with Asians and stealing of fish. They are in Somali waters stealing fish, they are also frequently over-fishing in Keswick. You make your own luck in this life. Seems to me like certain types think they are above the law.

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    After reading your absurd, red-neck comment, I shocked my head and had a good laugh, unbelievable, spoken like a true white man. What planet are you from ? Are you a member of the Arian nation ?

    I think YOU need to take a good look at YOUR IGNORANT SELF and take your backward head out your white A$$.
  584. B Mac from North Ogden, Canada writes: That School Principal has the brains of a blow-fly. She should be working the midnight shift at some Mr. Convenience Store. But then she'd probalby screw that up too.
  585. Rebecca Huggins from Salt Lake City, United States writes: I am deeply saddened by the reported school & police responses. And I am more saddened by the volleying name-calling and powerless complaints left as comments to this article!

    Please, take action! I've been provided the email address of the school's principal, Catherine McGinley: keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    Please email her with your concerns! And I am sorry to not have an address for the police department involved, but do some research (as I will) and contact the Police Commissioner with your dissatisfaction!

    Be the change you want to see in the world. ~~ Mahatma Ghandi

    Peace,
    Reb
  586. John Hinkley from Canada writes: QUOTE FROM A RELATED ARTICLE: "Earlier this week, the boy's father received a couriered letter from the York Region District School Board. It said the school's principal, Catherine McGinley, was recommending the discipline committee mete out the harshest possible punishment when it meets on May 13. She asked that the 15-year-old be expelled not just from Keswick High, but from all schools in York region."

    ************************************************************

    There is definitely something wrong with the York Region District School Board.

    For instance, was a similar letter sent to the instigator of the fight.

    I mean really, even the NHL deals out penalties to the instigator.

    Also, who was the principal listening to when she wrote the letter.

    Sounds like her personal values need to be reviewed.

    Is she even fit to be a principal?

    I hope this letter goes in her personnel file to show what a bigot she is.
  587. John Birch from Canada writes: "Kudo's to the 400 kids for doing the 'right thing'" I wholeheartedly agree. I also understand from my sources that a few of the participants in the protest were kids from Georgina First Nation who go to Keswick instead of Sutton. However, knowing the racist undercurrent rife in Canadian society, I can't help but wonder how many posters who are condemning this act, or are pointing at the 400 protestors and saying that "all white people aren't that bad" -assuming that the 400 protestors were all white kids- aren't some of the same people who make stereotypical, blanket statements about "Black people" and "Jamaicans" in those Globe stories about Afro-centric schools and the Jane Creba shooting, or similar stereotypical statements about Natives in stories about blockades and the Native dad who dropped his kids in the snow last winter. Clearly, many of the posters from Keswick can probably empathize with non-white Canadians when they read posts that are uniformly derogatory and lump all Keswickites in the same boat. I remember the posts during the time when racial profiling was a big topic in the GTA. I can't help but think of the number of white writers who thought that the black men in the story were "too sensitive" or implied that the men "may of done something criminal anyways" to warrant being stopped in Toronto and questioned on what they were doing for no apparent reason. I bet that the VP at Keswick High is one of those white folk that stereotypically thinks that non-whites are "too sensitive" when someone is using racial slurs on them. Oh Canada.
  588. Bob Loblaw from Canada writes:
    Join this facebook group - The High School and York Region Police must be held accountable. I think this was simple bullying
    But I am not so sure about the School and the Police handling of it.

    Facebook Group-----------------------------
    Keswick High School - Support the real victim

    .
  589. Froggy out on Salt Spring from SaltSpring, Canada writes: Suspend the Principal! She obviously has gotten so caught up in the idea of zero tolerance for violence that she has failed to realize that there is a place for it. As an individual, as a community , as a province,as a nation, as a group of nations. But it all begins with understanding that an individual HAS the right to defend him/herself. This child did defend himself. The Bully will not try to bully this lad again. Bullies will always seek out those that they can intimidate, and that wont fight back. The Principal, in following her instructions to the children insures that there will be many students who have been intimidated by the school system and don't understand the final line of dealing with the bully is to stand up to him/her. Hence her idea of "no violence " actually is what is enabling the bullies in the student body and eventually in our society. She and her ilk are what have created the "dangerous school ground" I hold her and her colleagues responsible for it.
    "Stop, your making me sad!" Does not work on the bullies. It encourages and enables them. A good punch to the nose works. 100% of the time in stopping the bullying of the individual and in many times will end the negative behavior of the bully himself.
    To suspend the defendant in this case, is beyond comprehension!
  590. Shawn Lin from Taiwan, writes: Why isn't the school's principal, Catherine McGinley, fired by now? Racial comments aside, why isn't the kid that punched first receiving at least the punishment as the one that hit back? Her lack of judgement is scary! Also, considering in light of what has happened, why can't the school board prospone the punishment for sending the kid to the special centre for suspended students until the whole issue is sorted out properly? As for the York police, I'm wondering how long it took for them to decide to place charges on the Korean kid, while they seem to be taking their time to figure out whether to place charges on the bully (who seemed to be the one that punched first). The Ontario Human Rights Commission should launch an enquiry over the incident targeting whether racism was involved in the principle's response and the school board's handling of the case.
  591. James Durning from Canada writes: Reading the comments, how is the principal involved at all? Anyone involved in violence probably should be suspended for a little bit; this kid is no exception. It gives the school time to cool down and prevents, or at least delays another fight. However, the length of the suspension seems to be excessive.
    The bully sounds like a spoiled indulgent child by getting his parents to push charges. The reason charges aren't pressed against the bully is the Asian kid would have to press the charges, and cooperate with police in pressing charges, which doesn't seem likely; it's meaningless for a small high-school fight without weapons.
  592. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes:
    At what point does it become necessary to link the xenophobic, racist conduct as seen in many Asian societies ( e.g China, Japan ) with the way people perceive their citizens once they have emmigrated over here. It seems to me that many of them carry that baggage with them across generations.

    The notion that people should just roll over and give in the whims of every immigrant group that wants to use racism as a crutch is begining to wear on the social fabric of Canadian society. We don't have Canadian gangs running wild in any Asian country like the Asian gangs over here. Do we?

    How about some reciprocity for a change. The Asian Kid sure looks good in this case ... but I can guarantee you that there are many others doing a lot of bad things and getting away with it.

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  593. Geoff M from Gangelt - Birgden, Germany writes: MD from Keswick.
    This story just keeps getting better. Not only does the principle suspend the wrong kid... But further embarrass her self by suspending the one or ones doing the rite thing. I can't wait to she what she and the rest of the school board clowns will do. I just sent an e-mail to the minister of Education. This situation has now escalated to the point that the minister needs to get involved and investigate this school and it’s administrators.

    As a Canadian living abroad I am deeply embarrassed that this principal and vice principal has created such a mess. Looking at some of the blogs on here I see that this story is getting attention all around the world.

    Please write the Minister and Deputy Minister of Education for Ontario and have them investigate this Principal / Vice principal.

    [Wynne, Hon. Kathleen O] [ Minister ] [416-325-2600]
    kwynne.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org
    www.edu.gov.on.ca

    Ben.Levin@ontario.ca
    [Levin, Ben] [ Deputy Minister ] [416-325-2600]

    Good job Karate Kid, and great job MD and your friends.
  594. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, did you just got sacked by your Chinese boss? Cry me a river!
  595. P C from Winnipeg, Canada writes: Thanks for email address of the minister of education. This is a copy of my letter:

    Dear Ms Wynne,

    The recent Keswick High School incident is disturbing indeed. If not for the protests of his fellow schoolmates, this young student could be expelled from school and convicted of a criminal offence.

    A criminal record is a permanent liabilty that limits jobs, admission into professional schools and professional organizations. This young man has the potential to be a "great Canadian" despite the failings of the school administation.

    As the Minister of Education, you are ultimately reponsible for the education of our children. I recommend that you make a full inquiry into the Keswick incident. Likely it will result in an apology to the student and changes in the school administration. Unfortunately there are no winners here and this young boy, his family and the community have all been scarred.

    Yours Truly,
  596. Rani Das from Canada writes: The principal's initial, and suspicious, reaction was to request this kid - with his 90% average and active extracurricular life - be suspended from ALL schools in the York Region. There's some bloodless ethnic cleansing going on here.

    Bob Loblaw - I couldn't find that group on Facebook. What is the exact name I should type in? Thanks...
  597. Christine Joo from Toronto, Canada writes: I’m glad to hear that the boy and his father are standing up for themselves rather than running away. It takes courage and they are setting a good example for other racial minorities. I hope that the boy and his family will recover from the shock, and adjust back soon. Considering how TV, video games, internet, and other forms of media influence how we perceive those of other racial backgrounds, we need to examine how media depicts Asians in general. In Canada, we don’t see Asians as much as Caucasians or black people on TV. When Asians are on TV programs or movies, why are they antagonists, kung fu masters, geeks, nerds, plotting something evil, fresh off the boat refugees and weirdos. In addition, they tend to be labelled as “Chinese” even when they are Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, Filipino, Indonesian, etc., It was shocking to read that the vice-principal of the Keswick High School thought being called Chinese was okay for a Korean boy. For someone from a rural area, where will he find information about people of other races? He will depend heavily on media. What impression or generalization will he make after watching movies which show limited sides of Asian personalities? Canadian media needs to be updated with a current picture of Asia instead of sticking to the one from late nineteen fifties post-World War II.
  598. John Birch from Canada writes: A Calgarian: re: none of ur bizness: "At what point does it become necessary to link the xenophobic, racist conduct as seen in many Asian societies ( e.g China, Japan ) with the way people perceive their citizens once they have emmigrated over here. It seems to me that many of them carry that baggage with them across generations." NOUB is right as far as Chinese people being some of the most intolerant folks on earth. I couldn't believe the virulent racist crap the Chinese wrote online about black people when Condolezza Rice visited the contry a few years back. however, NOUB makes the same error that the vile, racist white kid did in KKKeswick by ascribing the sins of the Chinese on the Canadian victim who has a Korean heritage, as if slanted eyes mean that all Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans, Cambodians and Thais are all the same people. Many white people in this country like to think that way, which is why we see Black folks from all over the world being called "Jamaicans", or see Natives being referred to as if they were one, big Nation. Conversely, these same white people fly off the handle if you call them "Dutch" when their heritage is Italian, or call them "english" when they come from Ireland. I think that mindset contributes to the racist problems we have in this country with a significant number of Northern European Caucasians living here.
  599. A Calgarian from Canada writes: John Birch from Canada writes: "NOUB is right as far as Chinese people being some of the most intolerant folks on earth.".

    Care to expand on that?
  600. A Calgarian from Canada writes: From the school's website:

    Anti-Bullying Policy

    Bullying can take the form of physical, verbal, or emotional abuse directly or over communication networks (cyber bullying). At Keswick High School, there is a zero-tolerance policy on bullying which is supported by the York Region District School Board, and the Ministry of Education of Ontario.
  601. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Over 90% of the responses/posts on this issue are from the Asian community & their gullible sympathisers. Two kids had a fight so what? Why should all of canada have to be brow-beaten over this?

    My general experience with Asians has been that they love to be treated with respect but are unwilling to reciprocate when the shoe is on the other foot. I have no desire to be respectful of any group of people who are consistently disrespectful of me and/or others.

    Both groups deserve each other - the ignorant red-necks of hicksville & the stubborn closed-minded Asians. They tend to be well educated on paper ... but are ridiculously primitive & stone-age in the way they comport themselves socially. u come to canada, imbibe Canadian values. Stop asking for special treatment.

    With their closed ethocentric, xenophobic cultures and their secretive conniving ways. It is no wonder they run into problems with the hill-billies. Both groups deserver each other.

    Duke it out between yourselves & keep your petty holier-than-thou nonsense off the National newspaper. Respect is a two way street.
  602. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness from Canada, still holding a lot of grudges about your Chinese boss? Get over it!
  603. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, being jealous is not good for your health!
  604. Christine Joo from Toronto, Canada writes: Non of ur: where's your number 90% coming from? At least give some specific examples on how Asians don't respect you as you say?
  605. backward country from Canada writes: LAUGHING @ Non of ur Bizzness

    Man... keep on posting... you really sound like an idiot... hahahahha....
  606. Christoph Fischer from Kingston, Canada writes: I am absolutely disgusted by this. How in goodness name can the bully not be charged or suspended for his act of violence on his victim? That principal and police force should face very strict disciplinary action for their gross neglicence - which I am convinced is willful. I have to say I am deeply disturbed by this nation. I am originally from South Africa, one of the bastions of racism, and I cannot actually tell you whether South Africa or Canada is more racist. Don't you find that deeply worrisome? I do. Canada has an image of a tolerant, welcoming and diverse nation, but the truth is so far from it. The vast majority of non-European immigrants are located in the major metropolitan areas, and the remainder of Canada is virtually lilly white. Immigrants are very rarely welcome in the dominantly white smaller towns. I have been shocked to see many of my friends from work, who are from India, Pakistan or the Middle East, stared at so hatefully by passersby in Kingston, or treated badly in stores. If I, as a white male, go for lunch with a black lady friend of mine, people stare at us as if we were aliens. I am just amazed by the racial isolation and paranoia I have had the displeasure of witnessing. It is said that immigrants should integrate with society, learn Canadian values, etcc. ... How is that supposed to be possible if they are made to feel unwelcome and isolated from the remainder of the local Canadian population? And quite frankly, I think the vast majority of small town folk don't want that anyways. I would describe Canada as a seriously racist, fragmented and insular nation. I am digusted by the hypocrisy of third or fourth generation Canadians who feel that the country belongs to them and that immigrants should "go back to where they came from." Aren't they the ones whose forefathers slaughtered millions of native inhabitants and, if they practised what they preached, shouldn't they return to where they came from?
  607. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Hey Backward Country:

    "An old woman is never happy when dry bones are mentioned in a proverb - Chinese Proverb"

    Do you see yourself in any of my posts? You seem quite sensitive.

    Silly lizard !!

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  608. sk sidhu from Canada writes: Non ur bizz:

    I hear you. Several days ago I wrote about my experience with racial discrimination. It hurts and lasts lifetime.

    Physical wounds are easy to see but racial abuse is something you carry around with you always . In my case it occured in school, university, and at work.

    Hate mongers are found in all cultures. People will find colour, language, gender, ethnicity, religion, class, looks, status, education - some diffrence - as a region to hate.

    I born in India and my best friends are white, chinese, french, germen.
  609. john smith from Canada writes: @Non of ur Bizzness from Canada:

    I think somebody in your family has got a nose bleeding recently
  610. Lance M from Canada writes: It seems to me a far more valueable lesson is being learned than amost anythign else these students might learn in high school. Bravo to them for taking the high road.
  611. joe bloagh from Canada writes: While the reactions of school and police officials were at best pathetic in this case, I can't help but to cheer and cheer LOUDLY when I read that 400 high school students stood up for this young man and walked out of that high school to display their mutual disgust at the actions of those who claim to be adults.

    I am sure this 15 year old now knows he is accepted as a human being and friend by the vast majority of his peers.

    If any of those good students are reading these posts I certainly do hope you stay the course and press those school weasels to quit hiding behind the rhetoric they pass of as school policy.

    Good on the whole bunch of you. Someone somewhere obviously taught you to use a moral compass and to stand tall when the need arises as it sadly did in this embarassing mess.

    You all get an A .

    Just a thought, but maybe some of you could offer remedial classes in backbone useage for a few of the more "adult" Keswiskians.
  612. John Birch from Canada writes: A Calgarian:

    "Care to expand on that?"

    Read further in the same post and I gave the example of Chinese online commentary about black people during Condolezza Rice's visit a few years ago. Unfortunately, xenophobia is a well-rooted in many parts of Asia.

    However, that has nothing to do with the story at hand. As I pointed out about None of yer, he is equating the Canadian victim of Korean heritage with the views of a number of mainland Chinese, based on the fact that they share certain physical characteristics.

    If that is the route that we choose to argue from, if we took a picture of Hitler, Robert Pickton, serial killer Charles Ng and Non of yur bizzness, and showed them to a group of kids and asked who was different, I bet they would pick Ng, even though he is a mass killer like Hitler and Pickton. Race isn't the best basis to compare people, and yet folks do that all the time.
  613. George BrownIII from Christmas Island writes: Non of yr business you are absolutely right, it seems that some particular ethnic group cannot adapt to prevailing norms, values and trafic etiquette.

    SK Sidhu, please excuse me, which university did you graduate from? Your (h)english is abdominable!
  614. Klaus Juergen Kahle from Toronto, Canada writes: I just sent the following E-Mail to the Keswick School Board. If you are as sickened by their stance as I am, I encourage you to do the same. "As a Canadian who immigrated to this country at the age of 13 from Germany some forty-three years ago, I am deeply offended by your school board’s racist and bigoted actions in the case of the 15 year old Korean student who may face expulsion for fighting back against a racist attack. Although I’m not a visible minority, when I came to this country the movie theatres and television shows were still filled with negative Second World War movies and stories about Germans and Germany that fuelled a kind of racism in its own right. I was picked on and bullied in grade eight and it culminated in a gang attack on me by four of my tormentors during recess behind the school. Luckily, after absorbing a few punches, I got in one good shot and broke the ring leader’s nose. He went down and the other guys ran away. I was called into the office, but thankfully the Principal, an honourable man by the name of Mr. McQuarry listened to both sides and suspended the other four involved. It taught me something about fairness, Canada and Canadian values that I hold very dear to this day. That school yard fight was the last time that I ever had to strike another human being. The only course of action that is just in this case is that you suspend the principal for his idiotic remarks and that you re-instate the Korean student immediately. We Torontonians snicker at Keswick occasionally because of the red-necked, country-bumpkin community we perceive it to be, but kudus have to go out to your youth who by walking out of school in support of the Korean student have shown a lot more understanding of what a “Just Society” means than you, your school principal and your local police force. Pierre Elliott Trudeau must be turning over in his grave." Their E-Mail address is: keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca
  615. The Iconoclast from Canada writes: Klaus Juergen Kahle: the correct address for the York Region School Board is:
    feedback@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

    Keswick HS is under its jurisdiction.
  616. Jim Saxon from Toronto, Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: My general experience with Asians has been that they love to be treated with respect but are unwilling to reciprocate when the shoe is on the other foot.
    ______________________________________________________
    Interesting and there is no doubt that bad apples exist in all races and groups. Recent immigrants from underdeveloped (under-civilized) countries bring their prejudices with them. Some of the most racist people I have met are Caribbeans, Indians, Chinese, East Europeans and Russians. Amusingly, they all want to kill each other and kiss up to Americans.

    But we do not let them decide our code of conduct. Instead, we decide how we live in this country and they have to adapt to our ways. Our way is certainly not committing a racist assault on a kid who does not look like us and then suspending him (the victim) and the calling Police to run him off the town.
  617. S M from Canada writes: Don't know if anyone reads the posts here, but doesn't anyone see the problem? I agree, give the bullies a beating. But stop giving advice like "the bullying won't stop until you fight back." Sure, if you have a black belt. I was bullied by the football team's starting O-man. Literally twice the weight of me. Yeah, sure, he'll stop bullying me if I throw a punch! What do WE do? Any bright suggestions?

    400 students walk out in support. Of what? The boy getting suspended - NOT the bullying. There's a big difference.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a good first step. But what would have made me happy was when the bully called him a F- Chinese, someone ELSE would have stopped in and told him to stop it. THAT's when bullying stops - for everyone.

    Luckily for me, most of the bullying stopped when the popular girl told him to quit it, and he was too embarassed. Maybe that makes me some pansy in some people's eyes, but we aren't all black belts or even half the size of our bullies.
  618. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Jim Saxon from Toronto, interesting comments indeed!

    So Jim ...

    What was Stockwell Day doing in China (an under-civilized country)?

    During the recent G20, why did the rest of the world begged China to help save their own economy.

    I know economics is off topic but .... grow up, will you?
  619. Seasoned Warrior from Been down so long it looks like up to me, Canada writes: The students, their parents and all of the people in Keswick who support a full apology from the school board, the principal, the vice-principal, the teachers and the police to the Korean-born student and his family, should all go and park themselves at the school board offices and refuse to move until it is done. Sincere or not, an apology from the school board will at least be a start in teaching the administration that you cannot hide your lack of common sense and decency behind your "rules".
  620. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: George BrownIII from Christmas Island writes: Non of yr business you are absolutely right, it seems that some particular ethnic group cannot adapt to prevailing norms, values and trafic etiquette.

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    You are no exception yourself. I disagree with those who may wish to conclude that you are an "rasclot".

    Better dust that powder off your nostrils. Whimp !!

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  621. A Calgarian from Canada writes: S M from Canada wrote:

    (1) "400 students walk out in support. Of what?". ____ S M, if you don't know the answer by now .... please re-read all the posts here 10 times. READ MY LIPS, IT'S ABOUT RACISM.

    (2) "The boy getting suspended - NOT the bullying. There's a big difference."
    ___ I understand the local school board has already indicated they may decide not to suspend the Korean-Canadian student after all. I am not a lawyer by any means, but this is going to be interesting.

    Kudos to G&M by letting the real Canadians their true feelings against all the bullies out there.
  622. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: karate kid and his apologist supporters should count themselves lucky. He and his family are still here enjoyning all this attention.

    Try that nonsense against practically any member of a certain ethnic group and see if you don't catch a "HEAT RASH".

    Those karate skills could have sent him "6ft under" faster than you can say "cry me a n.o.o.d.l.e"

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  623. A reader from Canada writes:
    Next time there will be smoke. Beats all the lip smacking & pen pushing.

    -
  624. Klaus Juergen Kahle from Toronto, Canada writes: To: The Iconoclast from Canada, thanks, I've re-sent it.
  625. A Calgarian from Canada writes: "The 15-year-old Asian boy who was the only one charged in a fight in which a classmate allegedly punched him first after calling him a racial slur has caught the attention of network TV in the U.S.

    The Grade 9 Keswick High student, who can't be named, was the No. 1 "World's Best Person" on MSNBC's Countdown With Keith Olbermann on Thursday night. "

    Source: Sun Media
    _________________________________________________

    ... and with his left hand at that!!!!!!
  626. C. Leung from Canada writes: A Calgarian from Canada writes: " The Grade 9 Keswick High student, who can't be named, was the No. 1 "World's Best Person" on MSNBC's Countdown With Keith Olbermann on Thursday night. "

    Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#30508283"

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    Get over yourself fool !! The idiot could still catch a heat rash because of all the incendiary feedback from adults like you. It is not over yet. You heard what one of the the dads said.

    Get over your shriveled weeney. Bloody idiot.
  627. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes:
    It is a tough fight to break up ..... that in which the community coward finally gains the upper hand. The world will never hear the last of it. Bravo karate kid. ;-)

    Ok. Now back to business as usual. The sharp business practices, intellectual property theft and criminal currency manipulation, manufacture & exportation of cheap poisonous products all over the world and fake forged diplomas. ur area of strength.

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  628. Cerys Main from anytown, Canada writes: I went through public school in the late sixties, early seventies, when expressions from your parents rang true - "if you play with fire, you'll get burned". Sometimes a little burn on the finger and other times .. well, you can imagine! At least the kid with the broken nose in Keswick can! Bullying does go on, always has, and continues to exist, but thanks to a huge swing to the left, the bullying is behind wraps where parents, teachers, etc. cannot detect it ... oh, except for the lashing out by those victims of submersive bullying - way to go! What message does that send to victims of bullying - to take it like a man, bury it, not defend yourself ... oh, tell the teacher?! My son in Grade 1 has been bullied all year, and I have to tell him to learn cute phrases to throw back at someone who occasionally kicks him, calls him names, to take responsibility for part of it. He now doesn't want to go into the classroom. You know what most friends and family are telling him to, but we have to teach him not to hit, but just to keep telling the teacher. Document it. For what, in case the bully sends my son to the hospital, or god forbid, to jail for defending himself. This hasn't stopped bullying, it has just given bullies more free reign. Now, if a "stranger" touches my son, he should be able to assess that the stranger is a threat, not a bully, and lash back. No wonder kids are confused. The very people who are responsible for their early education, are sending mixed messages that the adults can't figure out, let alone elementary school children. What is inspiring is that 400 students in Keswick have recognized what thousands of adults have failed to - the right of a victim of bullying to give a bully his comeuppance, and send a message to other bullies that this might just happen to you! As a last note, I'm signing my child up for martial arts lessons.
  629. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Cerys Main from anytown, Canada writes: "....As a last note, I'm signing my child up for martial arts lessons. "
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    karate is no match for bullet. & So what happens when both kids have Karate skills? Some adults are far more infantile than the kids they are supposed to be looking after.

    You are setting up a vicious cycle.

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  630. John Birch from Canada writes: Why can't we all just get along?

    http://www.heavy.com/video/68503
  631. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes:
    Hey John. Thanks for the url.

    real ku2l stuff. :-)
  632. A Calgarian from Canada writes: In one of my previous posts, I indicated it is my belief that most Canadians (locals) are nice and kind.

    Well, I am finding some exceptions now (1) Non of ur Bizzness (2) C. Leung who I am sure adore his parents of Chinese decent.

    BTW, NOUB, you still having answer my question why Stockwell Day went begging in Beijing. I know, I know, you haven't got a clue right. The truth hurts ... let's just leave it at that.

    ... and welcome to our multicultural society, who is pretty obviously to most posters here that neither of you fit in. Just grin and bear it!
  633. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, how is your Made In China keyboard?
  634. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes:
    Calgarian: Your english sucks. I can't make sense of your post. Do you have a real diploma? or is it an asian import?

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  635. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, the minute you start making insulting slurs, you lose the debate. Need I say more?
  636. Jake Jay from Toronto, Canada writes: He should have used his right hand.
  637. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, here is a little lesson for you ... never expose your anger, hide you frustration, still calm, think (for a change) ... Ancient Chinese Secret.

    Still haven't figure out why Stockwell went to China? Don't kill yourself using too much brain power, not that you have any!

    These by the way are not insults, those are FACTS. Got that? Now go back and munch on those ER (Egg Rolls to an uncivilized toad like yourself).

    Your Chinese boss wants you back by the way, you have to clean up the big racial mess you left behind, lick them off the floor if you have to.

    You are truly a disgrace to the human race.

    Bye. Keep feeling left out by the rest of us and try not to go to any multicultural city in Canada. You don't stand a chance (To you, that's a compliment).

  638. Marvel Girl from Canada writes: "karate is no match for bullet. & So what happens when both kids have Karate skills? Some adults are far more infantile than the kids they are supposed to be looking after.

    You are setting up a vicious cycle. "

    Since when is self defence a vicious cycle?
  639. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: Calgarian: Do you have a real diploma? or is it an a chinese import? That's chinese with a lowercase "c".

    It is never a good idea to disrespect your new country any thing else you'd be inhaling noodles 3 times daily wherever u came from.

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  640. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, give it up already! You are the odd man out ! Even you should have gotten that figured out by now! See you!
  641. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes:
    Do u have a REAL diploma. ... or is it a Chinese import. Answer the question.

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  642. A Calgarian from Canada writes: Non of ur Bizzness, gee, already behaving better, even spelling Chinese with the BIG C.

    Now that kowtow! Yep! Yep! Yep!

    We got you now!
  643. Jake Jay from Toronto, Canada writes: To Giutar player: Your first post got it right. It's a gem. Yours is a voice in the wilderness. All parents should thank you for it and should copy it for future possible use. As a lawyer, you have provided FREE good advice. Wish I had your address -- You can represent me anytime. Your pro bono should be rewarded.
    Your post to Jomo makes too much sense. He can't absorb it. You're wasting your time on him.
  644. Grant Hogarth from Salt Lake City, United States writes: I find this
    Embarrassing to me as a Canadian, that we still have idiots like this.
    Depressing to me as a person, that our systems are still so biased.
    Satisfying to me as a student of the Art that he was trained well, and was able to stay true to his training.
    Cheering to me that his fellow students recognized the injustice, and were willing to act to demand corrective action.
    Hopefully the bureaucracy will recognize the true nature of the actions, and behave with honor, not just by rote.
  645. Guitar Player from Vancouver, Canada writes: To Jake Jay: thanks for the kind words - always nice to be appreciated! Having been the victim of some organized persecution myself when I was young, I learned a long time ago that the only mind you can really change is your own. The challenge is to do it IN SPITE OF the persecution and the hidebound, reactionary "Jomo's" running around, rather than because of them. I'd like to believe that the school authorities in the case of the young Asian student will do the right thing, as would many of the posters on this board -- but whether they do or don't, we can only hold on to what we honestly believe as individuals. If we're thoughtful, we can see to it that our beliefs are informed and logical, rather than mindless dogma or stereotypes that may feel good emotionally but that are, at bottom, meaningless.
  646. D S from Richmond Hill, Canada writes: Psychological profile of 'Non of ur Bizzness':

    I have been looking through some of this individual's postings, here and under different pen names on other sites. This is what I ascertain of this person's profile:

    - Younger male, but is either not in school, or performing poorly.
    - Is either unemployed, or not employed in a meaningful role.
    - Very low sense of self esteem, due to actions and situations within as well as outside his control.
    - Publicly, he does not behave as the xenophobic racial bigot his postings seem to suggest.
    - However, in private (i.e. anonymously online), he indulges his private fantasies of control and omnipotence. His M.O. is the bait and switch - to initially lure others into his online sphere of influence with seemingly sympathetic postings; He then switches to intolerance and thereby maximizes his emotional impact.
    - He has no meaningful social interactions with people. He is however, a master at baiting. He spends substantial time thinking of new ways to engage other people; even if it is only online. He will follow up those thoughts with online postings, master baiting from the safety of his home.
    - He is also very likely someone from a less successful ethnic or cultural minority; His disparaging postings are meant to boost his own feeling of effectiveness by putting down other minorities. Most likely, he is a 2nd or 3rd generation ethnic minority - but will normally deny it online as that would damage his veneer of acceptance. This is also a reason for his better public behavior.
  647. Non of ur Bizzness from Canada writes: D S from Richmond Hill, Canada writes: Psychological profile of 'Non of ur Bizzness': ......
    ____________________

    Wow. How did you manage that? You got it all right. Did you use any kind of software?

    Cry me a noodle. I have been exposed.

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  648. Jim Saxon from Canada writes: Saw Olbermann. Keswick Principal and Keswick coppers...you are world famous now.....have any sense of shame yet??
  649. Jonathan Schaper from Australia writes: Since there aren't comments on the updates: To counter Principal Catherine McGinley's attempts to have the Korean VICTIM barred from attending any school in York Region at an upcoming York Region School Board meeting, I think we should all express our disgust and opposition to this plan to the YRSB. Here's their contact information:

    http://www.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/page.cfm?id=CON000001
  650. D S from Richmond Hill,, Canada writes: Jonathan Schaper from Australia writes: "... I think we should all express our disgust and opposition to this plan to the YRSB. Here's their contact information:

    http://www.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/page.cfm?id=CON000001 "

    ____________________

    Never mind, I will be handling this pro bono for the kid and his family. I am bringing Guitar player on board too.

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  651. Guitar Player from Vancouver, Canada writes: D S from Richmond Hill,, Canada writes: "Jonathan Schaper from Australia writes: "... I think we should all express our disgust and opposition to this plan to the YRSB. Here's their contact information:

    http://www.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/page.cfm?id=CON000001 "

    ____________________

    Never mind, I will be handling this pro bono for the kid and his family. I am bringing Guitar player on board too."

    I've already emailed my views concerning this incident to the YRDSB. I'm hoping that the groundswell of opinion and support for the student and his family will yield some positive results.
  652. T Fu from Toronto, Canada writes: Congratulations to Mathew Winch, all the 400 students, the Korean kid and his father who stood up for justice. This is another shining moment in our glorious side of history. Trudeau would have invited all those kids to the parliament as honorable guests. Global and mail and the local newspaper should also be commended for reporting the news. All of them made me feel proud as a Canadian.

    Now. The real criminals must be brought to justice. Foremost, the chief of police of Keswick. He must resign. Simply by dropping the charge will not relieve him of his guilt. He should have immediately suspended the officers involved. A thorough and complete investigation should have been ordered to see why the victim was arrested and charged and the villain was let go. Hopefully the hate crime unit will do what the chief did not.

    There is absolutely no excuse for the principle's hatred towards the Korean kid. She knew the defence was right and appropriate. She should have honored the Korean kid instead. She must resign. The school board must investigate how and why she got appointed as principle.

    A study must be made as to why the 2 bullies were so bold to make those verbal and physical assaults openly, as if they knew they will be protected by the school principle and the police.
  653. Turning Right from Somewhere in Ontario, Canada writes: Is the school principle related to the bully kid?

    This is Keswick after all, a backward society if you know what I mean?

    Good for the Korean boy and yes he should have used his right hand!!!
  654. J W from Canada writes: A well deserved punch to the nose I would say...and the real victim is facing possible expulsion despite his 90% average??? That's embarassing. I'm not saying that using violence is ok but this boy was punched in the face first. Just because he is the more skilled fighter does not mean he should be the only one punished. I really think the students of this school have done a good job deflecting the embarassing mistakes their school board has made. You should be proud of yourselves. I hope you will continue your efforts by making the asian student feel more welcome at school when he (hopefully) returns. Also, try to help the bully reintegrate as well-he made a mistake but might still be salvageable!
  655. John Birch from Canada writes: I know some KKKeswickians have been defending the honour of their little town, but the problem I have is that this race issue keeps popping up its ugly head again and again in Keswick, not to mention other, distatseful news. Just last year a guy in KKKeswick was nailed for hate crimes by continuing a display of a black skeleton with a confederate flag attached to it. He tried to say it was a "halloween display", but how many people keep their Halloween displays up in December? Two years ago, Keswick and their neighbour Sutton found swastikas and anti-semitic slogans spray-painted all over town, and even on the high school in Sutton. Over the past four or five years, "Nipper-tipping", Keswick's quaint phrase for assaulting people fishing from area docks who happen to be Asian, finally prompted a police investigation once it was realized how often this kind of assault occured. ..and now we have this unfortunate "outburst", coupled with a "run them Asians outta town" imagery thanks to the school's principal and vice principal. But why stop there? One of the Bandidos who was executed two summers ago was a Keswick man who was also being investigated at the time in the death of another Keswick man from the summer before. But to me personally, the name "Keswick" has long held a special revulsion for me, since a dear family friend was sexually-assaulted by one of his father's "buddies" when the supposed buddy offered to take his friend's son out for a fishing excursion whie he pulled an extra weekend shift. Needless to say, that was a life-altering experience for him, but these stories -save for my anecdotal one about my friend- point out that there is a seedy undercurrent throughout the area that keeps rearing its ugly head time and again. The one redeeming factor is that the 400 students who walked out took a stand, but how long will that last, and will that really change the mindset of the racist scum that infest the place? Hopefully, it will.
  656. Son Nguyen from Windsor, Canada writes: There are bad apples in every community, in every ethic group. One ethic group is racist against the others. However, I believe most Canadian are not racists. Travelling around the world in the last 10 years, I found that Canadian is one of the finest people in the world. I am very proud be a Canadian!
    Unfortunately, in this case, the people in power are racist. The school principle and police chief should be punished. The students who stood up for the Korean boy should be hounored. Keswick people should not be ashamed because your children (students) actions speak loud and clear on your behalf.
  657. Sanjay Singh from Canada writes:
    I get the impression that the people of Keswick really know one another.

    I mean very VERY well. As in first-cousin marriages.

    How else to explain the goings on in this forgotten armpit of the province?

    This principal, Catherine McGinley sounds like an inbred descendent of Irish potato famine refugees that wound up in Canada, and seems to want Keswick to remain white trash territory for the forseeable future.

    We have white kids putting cats in microwaves in Alberta, and white kids talking crap in Keswick, and when someone finally takes action, they are the ones being charged and their education is at risk.

    This principal needs to be eating from a soup kitchen for a while, if not actually lynched by a mob to send a message that this kind of abuse of authority is no longer a model of the Canadian Way.
  658. radha pather from Dundas, Canada writes: Wonderful to see other children joining in support if this was a racial slur and a school hall meeting with parents and children with teaching staff presiding is in order with frank discussion on race.
  659. A Calgarian from Canada writes: I wonder if this "situation" will be discussed in the next York Region School Board meeting? Committee meetings?

    If it is, would it be an "In Camera" event?

    Comments anyone?
  660. Sanjay Singh from Canada writes:
    J W from Canada writes:

    "A well deserved punch to the nose I would say...and the real victim is facing possible expulsion despite his 90% average???"

    ===

    You know this reminds me of the MT/Stephanie Rengel case, where the MT girl who withheld sex from her boyfriend unless he killed Rengel ... it was mentioned during this creature's defense that she was a 90% or so student, and it might yet play a role in her not being sentenced as an adult like she deserves to be.

    I would demand that the name and academic record of the guy that punched the Korean student also be put up in the public record so we can draw our own conclusions.
  661. joe garcia from Canada writes: York Police Services Board

    17250 Yonge Street
    Newmarket, Ontario
    L3Y 4W5
    Attention:
    Connie Phillipson
    Executive Director

    email = psb@yrp.ca
  662. Sanjay Singh from Canada writes: Keswick High School
    100 Biscayne Blvd.
    Keswick, Ontario
    L4P 3L5

    Main Office
    905-476-0933

    Attendance Office
    905-476-7823

    mailto:keswick.hs@yrdsb.edu.on.ca

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