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Reaction to Heather Mallick's piece
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Tuesday, September, 2001

The following are some reactions to the story and the things people don't miss about the 'good old days'.

Sales Targets.
Steve



Uninformed hack writers who call themselves journalists. It has become commonplace for these so called journalists to offer comments on topics that they have not researched and have no first hand knowledge. After all it's easier to take a cheap shot at something you don't understand then it is to educate yourself on the topic.
JS Thomson



1. Floor-mounted car starters: Right foot - toe on the starter, heel on the gas. It was a challenge to pump the gas and press on the starter at the same time.
2. Rabbit ears on the TV.
3. Bank hours from 10AM to 3PM; we had to take time off work to go or else try to go at noon with the rest of the world.
4. My 58 Chev pickup doors could be unlocked from the passenger side only.
Pat Riley, Ottawa ON



What do I miss from "the good old days"? Television and print media that respected the good work that the Canadian Forces does. Enough said.
Proud Servicemember



I don't miss my male classmates and teachers leaving school on Friday and coming back to school on Monday with a perm. I also don't miss Cougar boots.
Jennifer McIlroy



Cold war: though Bush seems bent on returning it civil rights protests: political representation seems to be allowing a somewhat of safer platform cars without hairbags: lets say all those all metal monsters that would leave you with mysterious internal injuries following an accident that barely dented the bumper. black & white television and movies: hopefully men will return to dressing in colorful suites...maybe not. absence of green peace and documentaries: we wouldn't believe what we (they) were doing to us and our planet.
George



Movie Theaters charging $8.50+ a ticket when I can buy the video for the same price two months later.
John Caron



Acid wash denim.
Wendy Lynn



So called "Ghetto Blasters" with their outrageously loud "music".Thank heaven for the walkman type things. The MUTE BUTTON--the greatest invention since the wheel.
C. R. Johnston



I don't miss license plates that needed to be replaced every year in the winter. I also don't miss drive-in restaurants where the waitress served your meal to you in the car. I didn't exactly mourn the passing of leisure suits or shag carpet either.
Doug Brown



The Yellow Pages (use the Internet now), Expensive long-distance rates, Communism
Trevor Murphy



8 track, pot, remote with cord and 12 channels, telephone ringing, minimum wage, school, pintos, my hairdo
Darrell Forbes



Outhouses, circa 1960, rural Saskatchewan bread that came in waxed paper wrapping and had to be kept in a breadbox. grapefruit was always so sour you had to add lots of sugar supermarkets whose winter produce section was root vegetables, tomatoes, iceberg lettuce a frozen food section that was only ice cream, by the brick, vanilla, chocolate, strawberry waxing hardwood floors cars without turn signals rutted dirt roads rutted gravel roads frequent power outages $5 per minute long distance calls black and white television stores that closed Wednesday afternoons, Sundays and evenings Above ground wiring coal furnaces Cotton lisle stockings
Audrey Voice



First of all "The Good Old Days" are today, or at least will be tomorrow! What I don`t miss are anal-retentive parents who only cared about their upright images (regardless how hypocritical that may have been), their careers, what the neighbours thought, and that their kids kept their mouths shut, did well at school, subjected their individuality (God forbid rebelliousness!) to expected conduct and did not indulge in dysfunctional behavior, such as having fun, thinking about beer and sex and, generally, being an interesting pain in the ass. Good Lord, how did we survive the tyranny of insecure parenting? On second thought, has anything really changed?
Bob Springstein



Outhouses, wood-and-coal stoves, Ed Sullivan, Pepto-Bizmol ads, the Toni Twins, Bess and Margaret Truman, Judy LaMarsh, The Plouf Family, the CBC Farm Report, white margarine with the packet of yellow food dye, ash trays and cigarette gifts at Xmas, Rye & Ginger, Argyle socks, mohair sweaters, and peddle pushers.
Jas



carbon paper, margerine that you have to colour yourself,corsets,outhouses,
Sally Vernon



Kids' raincoats that were green canvas on one side and yellow rubber on the other. Unbelievably hot, and they always leaked through, leaving wet soaking canvas to seep moisture through your clothes just as you were headed to school. A true '70s icon.
Dave



1. I don't miss exhaust from a one 60/70s car that you can smell from blocks away. In 1972, I remember getting dizzy just walking to 7-11 from having to breathe this stuff, with swirls of exhaust wrapping around me like the fog from the Ten Commandments. Pollution controls really work. When will trucks and heavy industry clean up too? 2. The Ten Commandments with Charleton Heston. I was the oldest in my family and feared the deadly creeping fog well into my twenties. I opted out of Christianity to save myself.
Aaron Lagadyn



I'd like to miss touques and headbands and other ugly earwarmers for men ... but we are stuck with them in most of Canada.
Keith Tarrant



Celine Dion , Canada's revenge on the U.S. for acid rain. this phony, melo- dramatic, homely publicity whore will no doubt return someday but we can only hope that she ,like her fellow talent- challenged Canadian Shania Twain , continues to have babies in a land far, far away
B. Shields



The old look and feel of The Globe and Mail.
Steve Westley



Milton Berle Joey Bishop The Partridge Family Leisure suits Bert Reynolds Brut Jade East The Monkeys Bob Ray Don Johnson



The disco era. They even had TV shows with people competing being like John Travolta. Old style braces, the kind that was like a plastic pink mould that would make you speak like Donald Duck. They are history aren't they? Ronald Reagan, you forgot Reagan. The leg-warmer, head-band, wrist-band mania. Maybe we could now try a list of things we won't miss in 30 years. That would give us a plan of action.
Cheers, P. Jugo



I wouldn't miss this list if I never saw it again...
Michael Floyd



Dear G&M I thought what I missed were small "l" liberal rants by ill informed Canadian journalists who's primary motivation it seemed was to display their own ignorance about as many subjects as possible. I guess I was wrong.
T. Hughes



Going to church on Sundays
John J. Hogan



- card catalogues
- being held hostage by Canada Post/Bell Canada and Nortel (remember renting telephones?)
- I miss not having a valid competitor to Air Canada
Joe



- Rotary phones
- Telex
- B/W T.V.'s
Jack Zoulalian



Knotty Pine Wood Paneling. I used to have it in my bedroom as a teenager and it would the first thing that I saw @ the morning and the last thing that I saw @ night. I felt like I was sleeping inside a tree.
John Duthie



Disco When I was 16 years old, Hollywood released "Staying Alive", with Vinnie Barbarino. Almost immediately, every young man at my high school was wearing silk shirts open to the pubic bone, lifts in their shoes, and tight pants. They spent more on their perms than most nations do on public health care. I was forced to listen to the BeeGees for a solid two years travelling to and from on the bus. Add to this the fact that Neil Sedaka was actually a Top Ten artist. I don't even want to discuss the tuxes worn as alternates to the prom that year, from a place known as the House of Genghis, with polyester affairs that looked like the wallpaper from a cathouse in New Orleans. Remember FLOCKED WALLPAPER, NAUGAHYDE FURNITURE, BEAN BAG CHAIRS, and horrors or horrors - the LEISURE SUIT!!! True story - I try to tell young people about the days before every milk carton and food item had those little security strips around them - this was before the Tylenol poisoning sca! re. They look at me as if I'm drunk. I don't know if this, total lack of security and safety, is a good thing or not.
Paul Beck



Trudeau!
R. Horner



MS-DOS
Chuck Fournier



To HEATHER MALLICK; So funny, made my sunday morning... Laughed til the tears ran, and chuckle even as I press these keys. Oh yes, what do I miss? Those monster personal computers, never moving once placed in position and anchored in place by gravity and 20+ cables. Laptop is working on the deck right now, no wires, wireless connection to central from anywhere in the house. And carrying it back and forth everywhere helps the exercise routine as well.... Progress?
Don Bews



shag carpets. Screamingly ugly two-tone orange hairy carpets adorned the "rec rooms" of North America in the '70s. All sorts of things would get forever lost in them, like fake nails and bobby pins. Yuck. Thank heavens that the wreck room has been elevated one level from the basement and upgraded to the "family room".
Suzanne



someone said it best "there weren't any good old days, there were only good old nights" I don' miss: slide rules; comptometers; mimeographs; telephone operators; bank tellers; secretaries instead of answering machines. enough said, but there are many, many more
J Dorr



Fobs -- yes, if one is old enough to remember them. They were the little two-finger pockets, just below the waistline of a man's pair of pants, we learned to keep loose change in! I don't miss them; or do I? Sorry!
Trevor Milbourn



Wearing a necktie and suit to work.
Kelvin



The narrow frame of social and cultural reference that condemned us to narrow lives. Narrow ideas of "normal". Religions pushing guilt as a way of life. Generations lived suffering guilt for the sins of loving and living in ways we now consider normal, and even healthy. Post-war middle-class food damaging. Over-cooked vegetables and liver. Strange concoctions in the Ladies Aid Cookbooks. Stiff-lined fashions in the 70's (I believe). Mary Tyler Moore and Carol Burnett looked sexier 20 years later. Stiff hair styles/hair spray. Really big, stupidly inefficient cars. Just I will not miss really big inefficient SUVs and pickups. Men-only sports. The only women at bicycle races were mothers and girl-friends, not as spectators and not as participants.
Dave Mullens



White margarine with the red food-colouring dot on the top. Kotex belts bubble hair updos shag haircut men's black dicky neck pieces Brian Mulroney cream paste deodorant Sunday school meatloaf
Joanne Light



80's fashion! Back in the days when men sporting fake tans and wearing mesh tank tops under pastel blazers had the nerve to make fun of the 70's. What a joke! The old television converters. These were huge 3-tiered boxes attached to your TV by a 2 foot cord where you had to punch the buttons to change the channels. Half the buttons didn't work or were unassigned. Dubious channels were on the bottom tier. Battlestar Gallactica, CHiPs, The Waltons. Afterschool Specials, featuring the likes of Kristy McNicol and Eve Plumb. Remember "Dawn - Portrait of a Teenage Runaway"? Sadly, I do. Taping songs off the radio - you could never get a clean song cuz the DJs always cut in. Downloading from the internet eliminates that irritation. In-Your-Face Racism and prejudice. It's a much safer place for women, visible minorities and homosexuals nowadays - thank God.
Rakhi Henderson



A Life without Microwave...
RL



Dot matrix printers tractor paper monochrome displays rotary dial telephones
Darren



Canada.
Steven



What don't I miss? How 'bout this list:
1. Skinny leather neckties
2. White pumps
3. Any pumps
4. Cindy Lauper
5. Air Supply
6. Cheap pearl necklaces that came in pastel colours
7. Preppy collars that stuck up to your ears
8. Kettle Creek
9. Big hair
10. Perms
11. Movie disc players
12. Howard The Duck
13. Honda Civics
14. Shoulder pads
15. rugby pant/shirts
16. Ford Pintos
17. Hockey Hair
18. Thriller (Michael Jackson)
19. Lionel Ritchie ("Say You, Say Me")
20. The Biway
21. "Let's Get Physical" (Olivia Newton-John's hit - well, whoever wrote it)
22. Sasson Jeans
23. Pepsi shoes
24. The Cosby Show
25. Alf
26. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous
27. Deck Shoes
28. Over stuffed furniture
29. Dallas
30. Brian Mulroney
Tara Braet



How could you forget BETAMAX?
Vida Morkunas



-Discrimination
-Slide Rulers
-Slacks in School
-Being in the house when the streetlights came on
-Black and White T.V.
Wally Baker



I enjoyed reading your article on things we don't miss, and I have to agree that things are getting better. Some things that came to mind that I do not miss are: Baby Duck Sparkling Wine, Pet Rocks, Hot Pants, False Eyelashes, jackets with lots and lots of zippers, and bonkers - I think these were actually banded. Thanks for the laugh
Anne Young



A world without VCRs! Remember the old days of rushing home to catch that episode of Starsky and Hutch? Now we don't have to. How about a world without the Internet and email? Not worth living in!
Margo McCutcheon



Burnt orange interior design.
Angus McDuff



Outdoor plumbing. Minus 30 degree weather, the old one-holer and the Eaton's catalogue were central to my childhood and youth.
Larry Hadwen



Hair spray...every day would begin with washing, blow dry, gel and then after a few curls to teaze, I'd coat my hair in liquid cement, glaze it like donut, and walk to school. I curse yearbooks.
Melanie Chambers



Vinyl records : poorly made, noisy, easily damaged, hard to store, and too few minutes of recorded material. Those horrid passenger train cars that Via ran until the fleet got replaced with LRC's. Velour fabric. Moronic AM radio deejay patter. Black and white televisions. The telex or TWX machine with its fussy paper tape. Maple Leaf Gardens urine troughs, if you had never used these appalling forms of waste disposal, count yourself amongst the very lucky. Imagine standing in front of a long horizontal ceramic trough brimming with liquid from the other equally embarrassed users. Being able to say you're gay without getting your head punched in. Bill Davis' Ontario. The dull, unreadable Globe and Mail prior to 1991 Take out coffee before Starbucks.
Greg



The Globe and Mail must indeed be starved for content to have actually published Heather Mallick's article, "70 Things We Don't Miss," one of the stupidest pieces to feature in the paper/Web site in recent memory. It ranges from the banal (typewriters, TV dials), to the obscure (Nick Gilder), to the incredibly offensive (the Armed Forces, red hair ... where the hell does she get off??) What I do miss from "the good old days" is intelligent social commentary in journalism and editors with enough sense to recognize content that is not fit to print.
Geoffrey Booth



Who is Heather Mallick? I agree with some of her choices, but certainly not all. She's apparently sold on people by appearances only - the only bad thing she had to say about Dief was his face!
Alma Loomer



I'm not sure how far back you're going, but how about suspender belts and stockings with seams? I can't imagine!
Marion Dowds



Reagan and Mulroney singing together while the working people of North America did a slow burn. Long playing records and 45s, and especially those brittle plastic inserts for the centre of the 45s. Mike Duffy on the CBC. The Osmond Family, the Partridge Family, the Jackson Family, and Sister Sledge singing "We are fam-a-lee." The Blue Jays powder blue softball uniforms. "World-class" and "megacity" as descriptors of Toronto. Disco. The Globe & Mail advertising itself as "the boss's newspaper." The Reform Party. Toronto's Olympic bids. Why can't we have affordable housing unless we support the bid?
Thom Corner



I wish the globe would provide a forum for every story it publishes. How 'bout it? put your stories up to the scrutiny of the public. In time the people who post their replies will be proved credible posters, or not. P.F.Wallbanger



Being arrested for smoking pot.
Uncle Fester



Brian Mulroney white jockey shorts Bankers' hours 10:00 to 3:00 Disco "music" Ball point pens Bell bottom slacks Big hair Lava lamps mood rings Dial telephones girdles
Robert Cunningham



Double tape decks keds concrete under the jungle gym in the playground movie theatres before THX wicker or rattan furniture
Jeremy Kyle



The slide ruler. One evening I finally got the hang of them and ran around boasting I could solve anything to three (not four) significant figures. The next morning the first electronic calculator appeared in our chemistry lab. The slide rule was relegated to a toy fake stabbing weapon. I hated them. Animal jails. Springwater Provincial Park in Southern Ontario had one and I felt so depressed watching the red fox pace frenetically back and forth wearing a grove into the concrete floor. What an introduction to nature. Maybe it's still there. Absolutely loved your column. What a hoot! Disagree with "All In the Family" though. All sitcoms until then were mind-numbing, laugh-track-ridden, drivel only my parents liked. So what was better, Heather? "Bewitched?" I wanted to run Darren out the front door into a telephone pole. Maybe someone already did. "I Dream of Jeanie"? We watched it only because we lusted after Jeanie. It was a "Bewiched"-clone. "All In the Family"?? Yo! u gotta be kidding. Even a bad rerun of AITF today is better than the best "Friends" which isn't saying much. Thanks.
Jim Mulchinock



I read Heather Mallick's story on 70 things we don't miss in the Globe this morning and loved it! One item I would add to the list is "MAD" - mutually assured destruction - a basic tenet of the Cold War days. I remember practising taking shelter under a desk in elementary school in the early 60's in the event of a nuclear attack! We have now replaced "MAD" with "MAC" - mutually assured consumption - which seems a little more benign but gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "shop 'til you drop". I suggest a piece on contemporary "things" we hope will soon be consigned to history. Stockwell Day comes to mind.
Hugh Abercrombie, Calgary



- How about when actual people used to answer the phone instead of voice mail. - How about when we didn't have cell phones and pagers extending the old ball and chain. - How about clean air - How about when sports stars were admired. - How about when it was safe for kids to play outside all day long. - How about when telemarketing wasn't even a word. - How about when gas was 20 cents a litre. - How about when families sat at the dinner table together. - How about when highways and cities were not congested. Thank God those days are gone.
Jim Smith



Soap flavoured chewing gum: Once upon a time, parents used to wash their childrens' mouths out with soap. They retaliated by steeling their tastebuds and chewing purple pills of compressed Zest shavings. Thankfully, both practices have, for the most part, been abandonned.
Marc Langis



Molded skates
Michael Whelton



Soap flavoured chewing gum: Once upon a time, parents used to wash their childrens' mouths out with soap. They retaliated by steeling their tastebuds and chewing purple pills of compressed Zest shavings. Thankfully, both practices have, for the most part, been abandonned.
Marc Langis



- grown men in makeup - a la Duran Duran, Cure, etc.
- genie pants - what was the point of all that extra material? especially bothersome in high winds
- huuuuge hair - enough said
- ghetto blasters - yesteryear's walkman
- safety pins - who needs pants that skinny anyways?
- ozzy osbourne - sure he's still around, but he's significantly less, uh, carnivorous now.
Geoff Witterick



White Out Thin belts (like 1/2") Beads on guys Scraggly beards Psychedelic VW vans Vinyl stick on flowers for cars Having to carry cash Motorcycles that ALWAYS leaked oil British cars that cost $25 a week to keep going, particularly the electrical systems Being ENCOURAGED to smoke The first wave of cheap California wines The first wave of cheap BC wines. Remember "Ruby Red" in a jug with a handle on the neck? Girdles for gals Suspender belts Cars without air conditioning Bias ply tires
Michael Tindall



Safety Razors - not that I am that old, but I remember my dad with a bleeding face A choice of two TV channels, and two airlines. On second thought, forget that. My 100 channels are recycling TV shows from those two channels And we now have one airline. banker's hours shatter proof glasses - they were heavy and made everybody look like Steven King Joe Clark - opps, they brought him back too separate male and female (women and escorts) bars
Tom L



Brian Mulroney. Need I say more?
Al Audet



Iron-on patches for your clothes (knees and elbows in particular). Came in many colours but never quite matched the clothes they intended to repair. Were also nice and stiff, great for keeping that crease in your trousers. Later they even came in corduroy!
Ron Rentenaar



"Miami Vice" style fashions - rolled-up sleeves, no socks, soft pastels for men. Yikes.
Jeff



What I miss are tightly written, better balanced articles ( surely there were at least a few liberal politicians and social activists who did silly things )that say in 20 points what writers now-a-days say in 70.
Ian McKenna



Stockings with seams that never stayed straight. They twisted round my skinny legs like demented cobras. Or, the suspender button on the garter belt would pop, then they drooped and sagged down my legs
Dianne Bolton



Those stupid little forms you had to fill out at the LCBO. You could be the only person in the whole place but you still had to fill out a form and hand it to the guy who went into - what the vault? and got your bottle. He immediately bagged it. Why? You are in the liquor store. What else could you be buying?
Lynda MacKinnon



Does anybody remember acid wash jeans? They looked like they had bleach accidentally poured all over them and they even came in brown and beige. The poor person who bought a pair thinking that they would become as common as stone washed jeans was stuck wearing them even after the fad - which lasted all of 2 or 3 months in 1987 - died out. Now I occasionally see people wearing them when they have to wear something for a dirty job like retiling the roof of their house or putting up dry wall.
George Ivals



To be quite blunt about this, the Cold War. No need anymore to tighten your thinking to DEFCON-4 levels. The intellectual clime is freer now. And there's much more freedom of thought that there would have been if we lost. This includes a Nietzsche-described pyrrhic victory: a de facto loss consisting of us becoming a sort of North American Soviet under another name. Or a plain theocracy, for that matter.
Daniel M. Ryan



How about accordian music, ant farms, the Bakker family (especially Tammy Faye), Cool Whip, fake fur, fuzzy dice, the Gabors, hot pants,Liberace, lawn ornaments, macrame, nodding-head dolls, shag rugs,tuna casserole, velvet paintings, water beds and white lipstick just to name a few. For anothjer 200-odd consult Jane and Michael Stern's The Encyclopedia of Bad Taste, Harper Collins 1990. Loved your column.
Ian



My wife.
Pasquali



Frankly, I wouldn't miss Heather Mallick, if the Globe happened to misplace her permanently or something. Not one bit. Honestly. And in the interest of reduced subtlety: I can't stand Mallick's pieces. They're consistently the most offensively stupid things to be found in the Globe.
Joe



1. Cracking, peeling vinal roofs on cars.
2. Working for the corporate idiots at CTV.
Wayne Yutman



Growing up in a small prairie town with access to only one TV station.
Rick Charlton


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